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AIBU?

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Aibu to think Dunelm are unreasonable?

352 replies

LadyGodHelpUs · 09/01/2023 14:18

On Saturday I bought £217 worth of stuff from Dunelm. I paid £40 using a gift card given to me as a Christmas present. The rest I paid by card.

Today I returned £97 worth of things. They insisted that £40 had to go back on the gift card.

I wasn’t made aware of this or I would have carried out separate transactions. I didn’t sign anything and it didn’t mention this on the back of the receipt where it said refunds would be no problem within the set time period.

AIBU that this is unfair practice?

OP posts:
Pixiedust1234 · 09/01/2023 16:40

vodkaredbullgirl · 09/01/2023 14:23

Probably due to people buying stuff using a gift card, then taking it back just to get the cash.

This. Its well known that people try this. Its the same as money going back on the bank card instead of them giving you the cash instead.

Xmasbaby11 · 09/01/2023 16:40

Same in Marks and Spencer. And then it took them ages to post me another giftcard so it was quite annoying, but I can see why it's done.

mewkins · 09/01/2023 16:41

Face2facet · 09/01/2023 15:45

Jenny must spend a lot of time returning unused goods within the return period then buying more things immediately for cash!

Wtaf? You would make a really bad money launderer.😄

Cactusprick · 09/01/2023 16:42

Everanewbie · 09/01/2023 14:32

Sorry OP, I don't think its unreasonable of them. What you're effectively doing (I am sure it wasn't your intention) is to convert your gift card into cash, that could be spent elsewhere. There would be no point in selling gift cards if this were permissible.

Surely that’s only the case if she’d returned everything. She didn’t return ALL the stuff, she returned less than half the total value.

mewkins · 09/01/2023 16:43

EllieM27 · 09/01/2023 15:22

It’s PayPal policy in this case. PayPal does not allow any mixing of payments on any transaction where PayPal was used. Stores usually can’t even do two different PayPal returns on one transaction, they have to do them completely separately.

Well you're wrong and it did. I've also done it mixing a debit card and gift card. They refund to card first and then any extra to gift card.

AlbertaAnnie · 09/01/2023 16:44

This is normal practice across the uk to prevent money laundering - although it’s inconvenient it’s not then being unreasonable

TreacsPotNoodle · 09/01/2023 16:48

I'm actually so surprised the amount of people who just don't get it😂

The op is not swapping her gift card for cash.

The op has spent the gift card.

And then paid for extra bits using cash.

Returned part of order which was paid with cash.

Then received another gift card instead of cash meaning the OP now has to shop at dunelm with her refund rather than receiving the cash back to chose where they spend it.

Shops do this so you are forced to use the refund amount to shop in said store.

BrokenBonesStixStones · 09/01/2023 16:50

@Everanewbie @Headabovetheparakeet in my experience of working in retail, refunds will always go back onto the gift card first. Generally gift cards are exempt from normal refund policies - the terms and conditions of the gift card will have been agreed to by whoever purchased the the gift card.

not sure if Dunelm will be the same, but OP can check the t&cs with gift card

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 09/01/2023 16:51

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 16:19

@whataboutsecondbreakfast

So you think the policy makes op's issue clear but also say that it doesn't cover it as they don't have to? Which is it?

To me, the policy clearly means "If you paid by gift card, you'll get refunded to gift card", but I accept not everyone reads it that way.

I also don't think (legally speaking) they need to explain online that money goes back onto gift cards before it goes back onto debit cards.

Both of those things can be true.

Bigslippers · 09/01/2023 16:52

If the majority of the amount was giftcard then I would think it normal but as the bulk is card/cash then I would have dug my heels in
You are not being unreasonable

prescribingmum · 09/01/2023 16:52

TreacsPotNoodle · 09/01/2023 16:48

I'm actually so surprised the amount of people who just don't get it😂

The op is not swapping her gift card for cash.

The op has spent the gift card.

And then paid for extra bits using cash.

Returned part of order which was paid with cash.

Then received another gift card instead of cash meaning the OP now has to shop at dunelm with her refund rather than receiving the cash back to chose where they spend it.

Shops do this so you are forced to use the refund amount to shop in said store.

Me too! It is such a simple concept in my head yet the endless replies about money laundering just show how clueless so many are🙄 Likewise the constant replies that she’s ‘lucky’ they’re taking it back and not legally entitled to return. Actually no, if you’ve checked the returns policy before buying something in case you want to return, there’s no luck involved!

OP if you can deal with the hassle, return £40 worth of goods that you intended to keep, get a refund and buy it back with your new gift card. It is then used and you never have to use Dunelm again.

Agree strongly with PP that stores with good customer service will make it easy for you to shop there again, not force it in this way

ortonym · 09/01/2023 16:52

Hillarious · 09/01/2023 14:24

Take back £40 worth of stuff you want and just buy it again on the gift card.

Yep, that was my first thought. Then I had another thought 🤔and I wondered if they would insist on reimbursing on another gift card as they were originally bought on one??

UncleQuentinsWife · 09/01/2023 16:53

YANBU.

Money laundering my arse!

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 16:57

@whataboutsecondbreakfast

So it's clear to you that is says something that it absolutely doesn't say?

The t&cs you posted don't mention types of payment method so or what happens if multiple methods are used, so it's really not relevant to op's issue.

And yes, of course they need to have these t&cs somewhere.

mewkins · 09/01/2023 16:58

prescribingmum · 09/01/2023 16:52

Me too! It is such a simple concept in my head yet the endless replies about money laundering just show how clueless so many are🙄 Likewise the constant replies that she’s ‘lucky’ they’re taking it back and not legally entitled to return. Actually no, if you’ve checked the returns policy before buying something in case you want to return, there’s no luck involved!

OP if you can deal with the hassle, return £40 worth of goods that you intended to keep, get a refund and buy it back with your new gift card. It is then used and you never have to use Dunelm again.

Agree strongly with PP that stores with good customer service will make it easy for you to shop there again, not force it in this way

These threads always wind me up. There are people out there who think that taking something unused back for a refund (when the shop clearly advertises its returns policy) is immoral. I imagine that there are people with piles of unused crap in their homes of goods they were duty bound to keep.

The threads usually end up with someone piping up that returned goods can't be resold and will go to landfill which is BS in the majority of shops.

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 16:59

@prescribingmum @TreacsPotNoodle

I know. I've actually had to reread the op twice to check I'm not the one misunderstanding.

Pixiedust1234 · 09/01/2023 16:59

217 worth of stuff from Dunelm. I paid £40 using a gift card. Today I returned £97 worth of things. They insisted that £40 had to go back on the gift card.

Perhaps my maths is all wrong here its not my strong point tbf.

£217 spent, £97 returned equals £20 only is actually spent. So a £40 giftcard has been used to purchased £20 worth of items...most retailers won't let you partially use a gift card, its all or nothing. Thats probably the reason they returned the full amount onto another gift card. I think you were taking the piss here, but well done for trying 😂

cloud9612 · 09/01/2023 16:59

Gift cards are not exchangeable for their monetary value - YABU

Sunnysideup999 · 09/01/2023 17:01

you kept (over) £40 worth of stuff so i agree it doesn’t make sense.
if you’d returned it all I could understand - but they should just consider that you used the gift card on the items you brought and kept, surely

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 17:01

cloud9612 · 09/01/2023 16:59

Gift cards are not exchangeable for their monetary value - YABU

Your reading comprehension is atrocious - YABU

Face2facet · 09/01/2023 17:02

Pixiedust1234 · 09/01/2023 16:59

217 worth of stuff from Dunelm. I paid £40 using a gift card. Today I returned £97 worth of things. They insisted that £40 had to go back on the gift card.

Perhaps my maths is all wrong here its not my strong point tbf.

£217 spent, £97 returned equals £20 only is actually spent. So a £40 giftcard has been used to purchased £20 worth of items...most retailers won't let you partially use a gift card, its all or nothing. Thats probably the reason they returned the full amount onto another gift card. I think you were taking the piss here, but well done for trying 😂

You need to work on your maths I’m afraid.

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 17:03

@Pixiedust1234 you're right...

Maths isn't your strong suit.

CountZacular · 09/01/2023 17:03

Pixiedust1234 · 09/01/2023 16:59

217 worth of stuff from Dunelm. I paid £40 using a gift card. Today I returned £97 worth of things. They insisted that £40 had to go back on the gift card.

Perhaps my maths is all wrong here its not my strong point tbf.

£217 spent, £97 returned equals £20 only is actually spent. So a £40 giftcard has been used to purchased £20 worth of items...most retailers won't let you partially use a gift card, its all or nothing. Thats probably the reason they returned the full amount onto another gift card. I think you were taking the piss here, but well done for trying 😂

Yes, maths is clearly not your strong point.

Bigslippers · 09/01/2023 17:05

Can’t understand why people cant understand this OP - You spent £217 and only £40 on a giftcard

So the refund as long as no more than £177 should be refunded by cash or the card you paid with

UncleQuentinsWife · 09/01/2023 17:05

£217 spent, £97 returned equals £20 only is actually spent. So a £40 giftcard has been used to purchased £20 worth of items...most retailers won't let you partially use a gift card, its all or nothing. Thats probably the reason they returned the full amount onto another gift card. I think you were taking the piss here, but well done for trying

What? I've read this three or four times but I don't understand your point at all.

217-97 does not equal 20

Also
most retailers won't let you partially use a gift card, its all or nothing.
which ones? Even the dreaded one4all or whatever it's called let you.

Which retailers don't allow it?