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Aibu to think Dunelm are unreasonable?

352 replies

LadyGodHelpUs · 09/01/2023 14:18

On Saturday I bought £217 worth of stuff from Dunelm. I paid £40 using a gift card given to me as a Christmas present. The rest I paid by card.

Today I returned £97 worth of things. They insisted that £40 had to go back on the gift card.

I wasn’t made aware of this or I would have carried out separate transactions. I didn’t sign anything and it didn’t mention this on the back of the receipt where it said refunds would be no problem within the set time period.

AIBU that this is unfair practice?

OP posts:
CountZacular · 09/01/2023 16:08

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 09/01/2023 15:56

No - but, to me, it's obvious that they're going to prioritise keeping that money within their system.

If they refund onto a gift card, you have no choice but to spend that money with them again. Refund onto a debit card and that's it, the retailer has no say over where that money goes.

It's been the case in every single shop I've ever worked in.

It might be obvious to you as you’ve worked in retail, but as a customer it’s not to me. I would imagine it wouldn’t be too hard to argue otherwise based on that statement (especially if you do just threaten to return everything and repurchase in line with their own T&Cs).

From my perspective as a customer, how I’m treated is the deciding factor of whether I’d shop there again. In this case, yes I’d have to use the gift card again but I’d be careful to use it only one transaction worth £40 to avoid this happening again. And I’d remember that if I ever received another gift card.

In stores like JL (and Sainsburys I think from memory) they refunded my cash first and I shop there very regularly. Good customer service goes a lot further than forcing your customers hand to remain a customer.

BrokenBonesStixStones · 09/01/2023 16:10

You have to refund onto original payment method - it’s standard practise

Needmorelego · 09/01/2023 16:10

@Headabovetheparakeet I know my response to you wasn't about the OP. It was a response to you saying you wouldn't shop at a shop that would never give a refund.
But that's the point - they don't actually have to if they don't want to (legally). But of course 99% of retailers do - to keep people like you happy.

Face2facet · 09/01/2023 16:10

CountZacular · 09/01/2023 16:08

It might be obvious to you as you’ve worked in retail, but as a customer it’s not to me. I would imagine it wouldn’t be too hard to argue otherwise based on that statement (especially if you do just threaten to return everything and repurchase in line with their own T&Cs).

From my perspective as a customer, how I’m treated is the deciding factor of whether I’d shop there again. In this case, yes I’d have to use the gift card again but I’d be careful to use it only one transaction worth £40 to avoid this happening again. And I’d remember that if I ever received another gift card.

In stores like JL (and Sainsburys I think from memory) they refunded my cash first and I shop there very regularly. Good customer service goes a lot further than forcing your customers hand to remain a customer.

Exactly. Reputable stores will try to make you choose to shop there again, rather than forcing you to shop there again by fobbing you off with a gift card.

Face2facet · 09/01/2023 16:12

Needmorelego · 09/01/2023 16:10

@Headabovetheparakeet I know my response to you wasn't about the OP. It was a response to you saying you wouldn't shop at a shop that would never give a refund.
But that's the point - they don't actually have to if they don't want to (legally). But of course 99% of retailers do - to keep people like you happy.

They do have to refund - legally - if they publish a policy that says they will, which 99% of stores do.

Everanewbie · 09/01/2023 16:12

BrokenBonesStixStones · 09/01/2023 16:10

You have to refund onto original payment method - it’s standard practise

Yeah but the issue here is that she spent £217 on goods and returned £97 worth of goods. She paid £177 cash/card and £40 with the gift card.

Its a question of what is considered first. The gift card or the cash.

snowlolo · 09/01/2023 16:12

It is legal but actually pretty stupid. If you want a workaround you could just return all of the stuff you bought, get all your money back, and then buy what you want again using the gift card.

snowlolo · 09/01/2023 16:13

It happened to me OP and after a lot of back and forth they did refund me the cash, but it took a lot and was a long winded process. Depends how much you care. You'll get it back if you want to.

Tessasanderson · 09/01/2023 16:14

Not read the entire post history but how about returning everything you bought. Then buying the things you want using the car again. Then the balance with cash.

Arse about way of solving them being arseholes

PalmLady · 09/01/2023 16:14

George at Asda did this to me. I had a £10 gift card, spent over £100, then returned an item for £15 and Asda put it on the gift card. I'd since disposed of the gift card and it was annoying. I won't shop there anymore now.

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 09/01/2023 16:17

LadyGodHelpUs · 09/01/2023 14:29

I’ve a single mum with a child who has complex needs & I work full time. I don’t get to go out shopping often. I flew there in my lunch break.

So they should make an exception because of this? Why purchase all that stuff if you returned it anyway?

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 16:19

@whataboutsecondbreakfast

So you think the policy makes op's issue clear but also say that it doesn't cover it as they don't have to? Which is it?

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 16:20

Needmorelego · 09/01/2023 16:10

@Headabovetheparakeet I know my response to you wasn't about the OP. It was a response to you saying you wouldn't shop at a shop that would never give a refund.
But that's the point - they don't actually have to if they don't want to (legally). But of course 99% of retailers do - to keep people like you happy.

People like me. 😂😂😂

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 16:21

BrokenBonesStixStones · 09/01/2023 16:10

You have to refund onto original payment method - it’s standard practise

And what was the original payment method for that portion of the transaction?

Needmorelego · 09/01/2023 16:22

@Face2facet yes of course 🙄. If that is there published policy them they have to stick to it.
Parakeet was saying she would never shop at a shop whose policy is not to refund cash. That's fine. Her choice.

Needmorelego · 09/01/2023 16:26

@Headabovetheparakeet yes "people like you". You said you wouldn't shop at a shop whose policy is not to give cash refunds. But shops want customers to shop there so they (99% of them) do offer refunds.
You want the choice to be able to return something. Most retailers will do that for you even though really they don't want the stock back. They do it to keep people happy and return as customers again.
So indeed "people like you" 🙂

Headabovetheparakeet · 09/01/2023 16:27

@Needmorelego m

So really you could say 'people' if it applies to 99% of people. 🙄

22WR · 09/01/2023 16:28

Darthwazette · 09/01/2023 14:24

I’d have returned the lot and repurchased what I wanted.

I'd have done this too.

mummytippy · 09/01/2023 16:29

As far as I know it is standard practice. Otherwise everyone would try to 'cash in' giftcards via a refund.

Needmorelego · 09/01/2023 16:29

@Headabovetheparakeet the 99% was referring to the retailers. Not the customers.

LadyGodHelpUs · 09/01/2023 16:32

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 09/01/2023 16:17

So they should make an exception because of this? Why purchase all that stuff if you returned it anyway?

Is there any need to be horrible and accuse me of demanding an exception? I was explaining why I cannot get to shops often.

OP posts:
mewkins · 09/01/2023 16:32

mummytippy · 09/01/2023 16:29

As far as I know it is standard practice. Otherwise everyone would try to 'cash in' giftcards via a refund.

How do you get that from the original post? The op has spent way I excess of the £40 on the giftcard. She is not cashing in at all

swg1 · 09/01/2023 16:37

prescribingmum · 09/01/2023 14:31

I feel all those quoting money laundering are missing the point that you spent £200+ of which just £40 was on a gift card. So once you return around £100 worth of goods, you have still spent over £100 at the shop which covers the gift card and then some. They would just be reutrning cash you spent as cash

Yes but you see then next week you return the other lot and request it in cash. They say you already got some in cash "No I didn't".

And if it works for £40 next time its £100. Not necessarily your £100 either, but £100 you got some other poor bugger to buy in a gift card scam.

mewkins · 09/01/2023 16:38

Everanewbie · 09/01/2023 15:56

I really can see everyone's point here. I don't think anyone here really thinks that if OP spent her £40 gift card she should be entitled to a £40 refund. But what happened worked only for the shop. However, if the OP got her way, it worked only in her favour.

Apologies if this is derailing, but what proportion of people here buy things with the intention of bringing it back? Or at least on balance of probabilities, maybe a high percentage chance they will take it back? For me, taking it back would be the exception, not the rule. If I was between sizes I would consider it immoral to buy both knowing one would be returned. I'd have no problem exchanging a 14 for a 12 if the sizing surprised me, but I'd buy knowing that on balance the 14 will fit.

No. If the OP got her refund back to her debit card no one will be worse off. The shop has its good back to sell again at the same price to another customer. Op has spent her giftcard and kept what she bought with it. No one would have lost out.

You are actually crackers if you consider it immoral to buy more than one size of trousers. What did you do when all of the changing rooms were closed?

JudgeRudy · 09/01/2023 16:39

It does seem a bit mean however they would be within their rights to not refund anything if you'd simply decided you didn't like the goods. Bit sneaky though so YANU to be peeved.

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