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I’ve killed the wedding group chat (AIBU)

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TheLastTimeISawRichard · 09/01/2023 09:35

NC as a few details may be outing but been around a long time.

Apologies if this is a long one!

My sister is getting married this year to a lovely guy, she has waited a long time to find the one and absolutely deserves all the happiness, we are delighted for her.

I am a bridesmaid as are other family members and my 3 DD’s, it’s all very exiting and my girls have talked about nothing else.

We are however unique in the wedding party in that we live over 500 miles from the rest of them and only member of now hen/bridesmaids chat groups that have any dependants/DC

So not to drip feed and because I think might be relevant to the post, I also have a DH in the Forces who is operational this year and Dogs and larger animals that need taken care of twice daily.

A hen weekend group chat has been set up by sis’s good friend and MoH, let’s call her Sharon. Sharon is lovely and VERY keen, I think I counted 8 “supers” in the first message she sent me back on October, that being said obviously has my DS best interests as heart and wants her to have a lovely time.

Sharon had spoke to my DS and they had decided on a central UK city for the location, I think somewhere my sis would have picked anyway but it was very much sold as this would make it easier for you to get to as middle of country, Sharon has wanted to book and organise for the start of summer since October and I have felt the pressure since her original message back then.

Firstly we have no idea if my DH will be here in the summer, he is working with an ever changing program that we are used to working round and has been the story of us married life but it’s really hard to explain to non service young girls who all work in Mon-Fri 9-5 jobs that we probably won’t know if he’s going to be here and able to be around for our 3 DC and small petting zoo until a few weeks before.

Its also right at the start (like the weekend before) of my eldests GCSE bracket so can’t uproot her or expect someone else to responsible for making sure she is studying etc.

Secondly it’s just all so expensive. Sharon has priced and provisionally booked an AirB&B which covering DS’s share comes to £200, I will be at least £100 on transport and they are looking at booking boozy brunch’s, champagne rooftop bars and dance workshops. I’m definitely not not going to get change out of £600 and that’s if my DH is around I don’t have to look at Kennels for Dog, care for other animals etc and with the wedding shorty after and everything we need to pay out for that just too much!

There are 6 members in the group, obviously my DC are too young and I don’t think it was even considered that my DM and DS’s (soon to be) MIL & SIL’s would come so a very small group and I’m not sure if this is making me more or less guilty.

After sitting on it for a few days and mulling it over with DH & DP’s I sent a (nice) message to the last night saying that with DH’s job, costs, exams and various other moving parts it just wasn’t possible to commit to dates/book and it was going to be financially too much for us, I did however suggest than maybe I could get the train for the day, wasn’t sure if doable but was definitely something I’d look into (and I will)

Since then we have gone from a very quite an annoyingly busy chat to absolutely nothing, and I’m now scared that everyone thinks I’m a right dick…

Admittedly things have changed since I got married 17 years ago, DS (and I’m sure her friends) has been too 3 Hen’s in Marbella in the last 5 years and would think nothing to putting aside £1/2K to spend on each, I had a lovely night at mine but went out for an Italian with my nearest and dearest and then on to a cheap night club with a big inflatable Willy under my arm! My wedding was wonderful and beautiful but definitely not as polished as the cool Insta weddings of today with the trendy venue’s and expensive Dj’s and it’s really skewing my view of what I should have done and how my message last night was received.

It’s also worth mentioning that my sister isn’t on the Hen/Bridesmaid group chat, Sharon is chatting to her separately and then relaying back what she would like and suggestions to make this happen. It feels quite strange as she and I are quite close and talk/message at least 3 times a week and it’s made this quite an elephant in the room and we seem to clunk round it whenever we do chat…

However I’ve bit the bullet and asked if she is free for a call over lunch so I can talk to her about it which feels much more normal to me but I’m sure will will piss off the rest of the group further, unsure if I will add to the hen chat the outcome!

Im not really sure what I’m asking but would be nice to have some views on this.

OP posts:
mummylondon16 · 10/01/2023 22:39

I have a different perspective to other. I think it’s frankly outrageous to expect people to spend circa £600 on a hen party when they are likely to spend loads getting to a wedding. I wouldn’t leave my kids if they had exams and at a push I would go for one day or night. You are not being unreasonable. Those telling you you are, are either rich or in lots of debt to fit in. Most people I know expect their parties to spend hundreds to go abroad for a hen party and then also spend on a wedding, frankly it’s creating an unrealistic and sad culture

doodleygirl · 10/01/2023 22:40

Thanks OP this thread has made me laugh, and its been a shit kind of day. There are some seriously stupid people who hang about on mumsnet, but on a serious note so many people who wouldnt just say we cant afford to attend and get themselves into debt.
Glad you had a good chat with Sharon, your sister will get over herself and all will be well. I hope you the DC and your killer DH have a fab time at the wedding.

StClare101 · 10/01/2023 22:43

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 10/01/2023 20:57

I voted YANBU because I don't know what has happened with having a night out at the pub? I would have said at the outset that I can only afford a night/or day out, that I will not commit to an entire stupid weekend. The hens nights these days last longer than the entire fucking wedding day! It's ridiculous.

However; don't you have a neighbour nearby that can pop in on your 15 year old and check things are going ok? And the kids can walk the dog (though in my country we just leave dried food out enough for a couple of days, or neighbours pop next door to top up food and water, the dogs are happy in their own backyard with kennel etc). Or a neighbour or older family friend stay with them.

I've never understood why anyone gets involved in anyone (especially men) from the military. From experience they are not family people and can be prone to violence, but not only that, being away is not conducive to family life. There should be a rule that you can only be in the military if you're single. Honest to god, if my husband wanted to join the military I would divorce him. Not only character-wise would I not want to be associated with a person that does that, but it certainly is not compatible with family life at all. Is there any possibility of your DH getting a normal that suits the family he has? It doesn't help the topic, I know, but it makes my teeth itch whenever I see people involved with a military man. They're just not family compatible.

This has to win the award for the most batshit crazy response of the thread (and it was a tough competition).

Choose better next time, OP 😂😂😂

Minniliscious · 10/01/2023 22:48

🤣🤣🤣

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 22:59

mymycherrypie · 10/01/2023 21:46

that’s really great for you but surely you realise that other families have different responsibilities finances and commitments?

well yes obviously but that’s not really what I asked. I’m trying to understand how you do holidays. 10 months notice is a fair amount of time. Do you save, not go, give yourself 2 years planning, what? Sharon have you fair notice as far as I can see but maybe you plan for a holiday much longer than 10 months in advance.

You say you go away in the October half term and then follow it with “don’t you?” like it’s odd that we wouldn’t….

I didn’t say don’t you. I said do you not do that. I know lots of people who go away then, that’s why holidays are more expensive in the half terms. It’s an entirely normal thing. I’m asking if you don’t, Ie - if you find Christmas so stressful for 3 months of the year maybe there is a better way to manage this so you could enjoy that break.

we clearly move in very different circles.

yes where messages/conversations don’t go ignored leading to potential fall outs.

But you didn’t ask if we are able to get away on holiday at some point throughout the year, you questioned if we didn’t go away in October.

No we dont because with 3 children and two months to Christmas we wouldn’t be able to financially afford it…

You seem to be another poster that just can’t fathom that other people and families live a different lifestyle to you.

We are not on a farm but we we live in a high farming area, we also socialise with lots of other families with horses, dogs, live stock businesses and it’s really common around here to prioritise our chosen lifestyle over 2 weeks in Spain!

OP posts:
TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:03

StClare101 · 10/01/2023 22:43

This has to win the award for the most batshit crazy response of the thread (and it was a tough competition).

Choose better next time, OP 😂😂😂

They are getting more crazy with every page, can’t wait to see who pops up in thread 2!!!! 🤣

OP posts:
Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:27

The real problem here OP is that if you come across even a percentage as patronising and terribly busy and putting your LIFESTYLE above all else in real life, then tbh you’d be hard going. There’s some kind of niggling resentment needling away there between the comments about your sister waiting SO long for her ‘deserved’ happiness and how things were so much different in your day. I can’t quite put my finger on it but you are revelling in being mummy’s favourite sensible girl and have managed to remove the element of surprise for your sister without spending a penny so that’s a bonus. Cottage away with board games and food for a hen do? Come off it, even back in the mists of time by your admission you did better than that. Just stay out of the wedding planning and the hen do chat and make sure all the animals get in to the ark two by two before the big day.

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:35

Cool story @Eyerollcentral….

Off you trot to the 19…oh wait…17% of people on an 1,000 thread that agree with you. 👋🏻

OP posts:
Shauny098 · 10/01/2023 23:36

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:03

They are getting more crazy with every page, can’t wait to see who pops up in thread 2!!!! 🤣

Christ fucking almighty! This thread has been a wild ride with the standard batshit mumsnet responses! My faves….

1 Assume, assume and assume some more.

2 Reach, reach and reach again.

3 Ignore every single valid point OP makes and form your own nasty BS opinion.

4 Assume OP has the worst intentions, is the most horrible human, lies about her true feelings and is a big piece of shit.

5 Tell her she’s nasty and “no wonder ppl are annoyed if this is how you speak to ppl” when she’s just defending herself from you lunatics.

It always follows the same pattern, just a bunch of nasty weirdos on here. Honestly OP you deserve a medal for how you’ve handled these freaks!

Every single point you’ve made (over n over again) is absolutely valid! Do what you can, you’re not superwoman either it’s feasible or it’s not, if not then your sister will get over it! You sound like a great sister and she’s lucky to have you!

Shauny098 · 10/01/2023 23:38

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:27

The real problem here OP is that if you come across even a percentage as patronising and terribly busy and putting your LIFESTYLE above all else in real life, then tbh you’d be hard going. There’s some kind of niggling resentment needling away there between the comments about your sister waiting SO long for her ‘deserved’ happiness and how things were so much different in your day. I can’t quite put my finger on it but you are revelling in being mummy’s favourite sensible girl and have managed to remove the element of surprise for your sister without spending a penny so that’s a bonus. Cottage away with board games and food for a hen do? Come off it, even back in the mists of time by your admission you did better than that. Just stay out of the wedding planning and the hen do chat and make sure all the animals get in to the ark two by two before the big day.

This is the CLASSIC example of what I’m talking about! You hit every single one of my points….bravo 🥴🤦🏼‍♀️😅

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:41

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:35

Cool story @Eyerollcentral….

Off you trot to the 19…oh wait…17% of people on an 1,000 thread that agree with you. 👋🏻

That’s just my impression from reading your thread 🤷‍♀️ You seem to have zero capacity for self reflection. I don’t know why you posted in the first place to be honest with you?

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:42

Shauny098 · 10/01/2023 23:38

This is the CLASSIC example of what I’m talking about! You hit every single one of my points….bravo 🥴🤦🏼‍♀️😅

No idea what you’re on about sorry, just read all the OP’s posts

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:45

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:41

That’s just my impression from reading your thread 🤷‍♀️ You seem to have zero capacity for self reflection. I don’t know why you posted in the first place to be honest with you?

Why to get the validation of the majority of course….

As someone pointed out to you just two post ago, you’re coming across as batshit!

OP posts:
Julesplus3 · 10/01/2023 23:49

I have multiple friends in the military and as such have seen first hand the uncertainty, stress and emotional exhaustion that comes with your partner being deployed.
I cannot get over the lack of compassion so many posters appear to have for OP.
Raising three children is tough enough, let alone doing so whilst working 35 hrs a week, having a partner who is away, family nowhere near and animals.
There is no right or wrong way to do this, we all just try our best to get it right and raise happy healthy children whilst staying sane. So people seriously, if it feels so important to you to create your own narrative about OP or to pick on one small detail, you need to look at yourself and your own priorities rather than attack OP’s.

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:51

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:45

Why to get the validation of the majority of course….

As someone pointed out to you just two post ago, you’re coming across as batshit!

What’s so odd I think about the way you reply to any direct questions is that you automically deflect. I may well be batshit my dear but at least a couple of ponies aren’t dictating my social life! Enjoy the wedding!

Rainn21 · 10/01/2023 23:51

You sound like a miserable cow I’m sure they’ll have a great time without you so wouldn’t worry about it if I were you

mymycherrypie · 10/01/2023 23:53

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 22:59

But you didn’t ask if we are able to get away on holiday at some point throughout the year, you questioned if we didn’t go away in October.

No we dont because with 3 children and two months to Christmas we wouldn’t be able to financially afford it…

You seem to be another poster that just can’t fathom that other people and families live a different lifestyle to you.

We are not on a farm but we we live in a high farming area, we also socialise with lots of other families with horses, dogs, live stock businesses and it’s really common around here to prioritise our chosen lifestyle over 2 weeks in Spain!

I don’t think you get what I’m asking. Which was just a general pondering on how do you manage to go on holiday and does it always require more than 10 months notice?

You seem so angry.

You seem to be another poster that just can’t fathom that other people and families live a different lifestyle to you.

I haven’t said anything of the sort. I said that people go on holiday in October. Which is true. And indicates not everyone is quite as stressed out by Christmas as you and perhaps you could address that for your own well-being. 10 months seems fair notice to me but (linked to part one of my question which you haven’t answered and have got just angry and weird about) maybe you usually take more time to plan a break.

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:54

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:51

What’s so odd I think about the way you reply to any direct questions is that you automically deflect. I may well be batshit my dear but at least a couple of ponies aren’t dictating my social life! Enjoy the wedding!

If that’s what you’ve taken from this thread I don’t envy your intelligence.

Nighty Night. 👋🏻

OP posts:
IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 10/01/2023 23:54

Yes, OP does seem to be a very angry person. I've changed my vote to YABU.

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:58

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 23:54

If that’s what you’ve taken from this thread I don’t envy your intelligence.

Nighty Night. 👋🏻

I’ve enough intelligence to see you are really struggling and seem really angry. Goodnight

Dita73 · 10/01/2023 23:58

@TheLastTimeISawRichard I bet you wish you’d never asked now

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 11/01/2023 00:01

mymycherrypie · 10/01/2023 23:53

I don’t think you get what I’m asking. Which was just a general pondering on how do you manage to go on holiday and does it always require more than 10 months notice?

You seem so angry.

You seem to be another poster that just can’t fathom that other people and families live a different lifestyle to you.

I haven’t said anything of the sort. I said that people go on holiday in October. Which is true. And indicates not everyone is quite as stressed out by Christmas as you and perhaps you could address that for your own well-being. 10 months seems fair notice to me but (linked to part one of my question which you haven’t answered and have got just angry and weird about) maybe you usually take more time to plan a break.

And I have already said, several times in fact on this thread (possibly why you’re picking up on my frustration) as rule, we don’t.

We chose a lifestyle of horses, dogs in the country and we prioritise that over family holidays.

It’s not that abnormal, it’s just obviously different to what you do as you can’t seem to let it go.

OP posts:
TheLastTimeISawRichard · 11/01/2023 00:02

Eyerollcentral · 10/01/2023 23:58

I’ve enough intelligence to see you are really struggling and seem really angry. Goodnight

Struggling with the will to live over all the repetition…

Correct.

OP posts:
Shauny098 · 11/01/2023 00:04

mymycherrypie · 10/01/2023 23:53

I don’t think you get what I’m asking. Which was just a general pondering on how do you manage to go on holiday and does it always require more than 10 months notice?

You seem so angry.

You seem to be another poster that just can’t fathom that other people and families live a different lifestyle to you.

I haven’t said anything of the sort. I said that people go on holiday in October. Which is true. And indicates not everyone is quite as stressed out by Christmas as you and perhaps you could address that for your own well-being. 10 months seems fair notice to me but (linked to part one of my question which you haven’t answered and have got just angry and weird about) maybe you usually take more time to plan a break.

Shes coming across as annoyed, as she should be dealing with you fuckwits 🤦🏼‍♀️😫

Railwayroad · 11/01/2023 00:04

Can’t believe how rude some people are on this thread. Bloody weddings. Why do they have to be so complicated??

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