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I’ve killed the wedding group chat (AIBU)

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TheLastTimeISawRichard · 09/01/2023 09:35

NC as a few details may be outing but been around a long time.

Apologies if this is a long one!

My sister is getting married this year to a lovely guy, she has waited a long time to find the one and absolutely deserves all the happiness, we are delighted for her.

I am a bridesmaid as are other family members and my 3 DD’s, it’s all very exiting and my girls have talked about nothing else.

We are however unique in the wedding party in that we live over 500 miles from the rest of them and only member of now hen/bridesmaids chat groups that have any dependants/DC

So not to drip feed and because I think might be relevant to the post, I also have a DH in the Forces who is operational this year and Dogs and larger animals that need taken care of twice daily.

A hen weekend group chat has been set up by sis’s good friend and MoH, let’s call her Sharon. Sharon is lovely and VERY keen, I think I counted 8 “supers” in the first message she sent me back on October, that being said obviously has my DS best interests as heart and wants her to have a lovely time.

Sharon had spoke to my DS and they had decided on a central UK city for the location, I think somewhere my sis would have picked anyway but it was very much sold as this would make it easier for you to get to as middle of country, Sharon has wanted to book and organise for the start of summer since October and I have felt the pressure since her original message back then.

Firstly we have no idea if my DH will be here in the summer, he is working with an ever changing program that we are used to working round and has been the story of us married life but it’s really hard to explain to non service young girls who all work in Mon-Fri 9-5 jobs that we probably won’t know if he’s going to be here and able to be around for our 3 DC and small petting zoo until a few weeks before.

Its also right at the start (like the weekend before) of my eldests GCSE bracket so can’t uproot her or expect someone else to responsible for making sure she is studying etc.

Secondly it’s just all so expensive. Sharon has priced and provisionally booked an AirB&B which covering DS’s share comes to £200, I will be at least £100 on transport and they are looking at booking boozy brunch’s, champagne rooftop bars and dance workshops. I’m definitely not not going to get change out of £600 and that’s if my DH is around I don’t have to look at Kennels for Dog, care for other animals etc and with the wedding shorty after and everything we need to pay out for that just too much!

There are 6 members in the group, obviously my DC are too young and I don’t think it was even considered that my DM and DS’s (soon to be) MIL & SIL’s would come so a very small group and I’m not sure if this is making me more or less guilty.

After sitting on it for a few days and mulling it over with DH & DP’s I sent a (nice) message to the last night saying that with DH’s job, costs, exams and various other moving parts it just wasn’t possible to commit to dates/book and it was going to be financially too much for us, I did however suggest than maybe I could get the train for the day, wasn’t sure if doable but was definitely something I’d look into (and I will)

Since then we have gone from a very quite an annoyingly busy chat to absolutely nothing, and I’m now scared that everyone thinks I’m a right dick…

Admittedly things have changed since I got married 17 years ago, DS (and I’m sure her friends) has been too 3 Hen’s in Marbella in the last 5 years and would think nothing to putting aside £1/2K to spend on each, I had a lovely night at mine but went out for an Italian with my nearest and dearest and then on to a cheap night club with a big inflatable Willy under my arm! My wedding was wonderful and beautiful but definitely not as polished as the cool Insta weddings of today with the trendy venue’s and expensive Dj’s and it’s really skewing my view of what I should have done and how my message last night was received.

It’s also worth mentioning that my sister isn’t on the Hen/Bridesmaid group chat, Sharon is chatting to her separately and then relaying back what she would like and suggestions to make this happen. It feels quite strange as she and I are quite close and talk/message at least 3 times a week and it’s made this quite an elephant in the room and we seem to clunk round it whenever we do chat…

However I’ve bit the bullet and asked if she is free for a call over lunch so I can talk to her about it which feels much more normal to me but I’m sure will will piss off the rest of the group further, unsure if I will add to the hen chat the outcome!

Im not really sure what I’m asking but would be nice to have some views on this.

OP posts:
Gabby8 · 09/01/2023 21:06

I meant that some people that don’t have the same issues often trivialise childcare and animal care, certainly in my experience. Her sister maybe understands but the wassap group may not- I’ve certainly been met with just get a babysitter, house sitters, groom etc

Climbles · 09/01/2023 21:08

AnyOldThings · 09/01/2023 21:02

In many people worlds, being expensive automatically means we can’t afford it. Money is individual and £6-700 is not something I could afford to spend on a hen weekend no matter how much I loved the person. To make out that expensive isn’t a reason to not be able to go is simply deluded to many people.

If it was AIBU to not be able to afford to go no one would question that. But it’s lots of different reasons that sound like excuses and she has ignored my question about if it was cheaper about 3 times. She should have said no from the start and not dragged it out, had the event designed around her then backed out.

Tiani4 · 09/01/2023 21:26

If it was AIBU to not be able to afford to go no one would question that. But it’s lots of different reasons that sound like excuses and she has ignored my question about if it was cheaper about 3 times. She should have said no from the start and not dragged it out, had the event designed around her then backed out.

HmmHmm so missed the point ...

OP answered that far earlier and you simply didn't comprehend that...as she said why - that all the costs from outset were but more
£600+) then she could afford .., AND then ALSo they wouldn't know if DH would be around until few weeks beforehand. Then the impact of travelling 500 miles.. . And also extra cost. And time..

It may be inconvenient to dogmatic PPs who haven't RTFT or have other caring or financial commitments like OP or others do- but to us busy normal working mums (& those with BD DCs) without childcare on two (that coss a fortune and isn't robust for ND DCs) , yeah it IS a biggie ... and we understand where OP is coming from

Tiani4 · 09/01/2023 21:30

AnND OP has found out what they were thinking of doing she HAS said not to include her (it's not designed around OP as it isn't what she would want for her DSus or herself (not has asked for) anyway

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 09/01/2023 22:00

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Flowersinspringgrowwild · 09/01/2023 22:02

OP I am loving your work here.

Janieread · 09/01/2023 22:03

What's happening with the horses and dogs when you go to the wedding?

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 09/01/2023 22:08

Janieread · 09/01/2023 22:03

What's happening with the horses and dogs when you go to the wedding?

We will likely take the dog with us and pay for someone to come and help out with horses for a few days.

This was always the plan and why it’s made the hen month so pinchy…

But we of course never miss the wedding!

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BurtonsRevenge · 09/01/2023 22:16

greenbackers · 09/01/2023 18:53

"Army/“Forces”. Same thing."

I'd like to see you go into a navy pub and say that. That would be funny (for other people).

Army / Navy / Tinker / Taylor/ Soldier / spy. Same same.

youshouldnthaveasked · 09/01/2023 22:37

I’ve really enjoyed reading this OP and your replies have been great. i also think your Mum is brill 😂 some people really don’t read and understand the information given to them do they?!

Hopefully you’ll be able to make it for a day if you can.

Good luck 😉

WowK · 09/01/2023 22:39

I'm shocked at what utter twats posters have been on this thread!

It's a fucking hen do, not visiting your sister on her death bed, does it really matter if you don't go for your very valid and understandable reasons?

Climbles · 09/01/2023 22:43

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Not sure why you think it’s appropriate to use personal insults but I haven’t been insulting to you at all. You asked a question and I’ve tried to explain why your sister and her friends might be upset with you. Lots of people don’t value hen dos but some do. Your sister is clearly one of them. You could make the effort like you are going to for the wedding. You don’t want to and that’s fine but don’t make out like it’s impossible.

WowK · 09/01/2023 22:48

You could make the effort like you are going to for the wedding. You don’t want to and that’s fine but don’t make out like it’s impossible

Surely it's understandable that if the wedding is shortly after the hen then finances may not allow for both and the wedding is most important?

My cousin is getting married in Scotland in a few months (we live over 6 hours away), it's going to cost us a lot in fuel, accomodation, care for our pets. I couldn't afford to do the same 2 weeks before for a hen as well.

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 09/01/2023 22:49

Climbles · 09/01/2023 22:43

Not sure why you think it’s appropriate to use personal insults but I haven’t been insulting to you at all. You asked a question and I’ve tried to explain why your sister and her friends might be upset with you. Lots of people don’t value hen dos but some do. Your sister is clearly one of them. You could make the effort like you are going to for the wedding. You don’t want to and that’s fine but don’t make out like it’s impossible.

For the love of god….

”You could make the effort”

And you are wondering why I’m questioning your intelligence in receiving and processing information.

For the (what feels like) millionth time

No I can’t because I don’t have childcare and I can’t afford where they are going and what they want to do.

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WowK · 09/01/2023 22:50

With the added issue of also needing to find childcare for DC if husband wasn't around as they could come with me to the wedding but not the hen.

A hen do really isn't that big of a deal and honestly I'd be the one pissed off if my sister was annoyed at me for not being able to afford to attend her extortionate hen party when I had children, a husband working away and money worries.

WowK · 09/01/2023 22:51

In fact it makes me fucking cringe when people have hen parties that cost their friends £££. Unless you are all wealthy and have money to spare, it's shitty to expect someone to pay that much money to attend some party weekend.

WinterDeWinter · 09/01/2023 22:55

I’m also enjoying your work OP.

and still laughing at ‘I put the Sharon on the back burner’ in one of your early posts. I would be very pleased if it was intentional but sadly I suspect a typo.

WeeM · 09/01/2023 23:05

only in mumsnet land would people think it’s ok to leave a 15 year old in charge of a 13 yr old, 9yr old, horses and dogs for 3 days while you are 500 miles away! Or if that’s not an option well it’s fine, you should be able to find a random teenager willing to do it 🤔. I’ve honestly never heard the like.

DashboardConfessional · 09/01/2023 23:17

For the love of god. The wedding doesn't require finding 3 nights of childcare. The hen does. The level of effort involved is not remotely the same.

M103 · 09/01/2023 23:53

I agree with your mum!

Blueeyedgirl21 · 09/01/2023 23:59

How do you do ANYTHING with so many animals (I’m presuming you have horses and goats or something) and literally not knowing if your husband will be around or not until weeks before. Like do you never book weekends away, day trips, theatre tickets, anything ?!!!

ChangingTheChannel · 10/01/2023 00:01

I like the sound of your mum OP.

Mumsnetters are weird about things like this. They either completely hate all things wedding/hen do/big parties or think they’re the most important thing in life. 😬

Your reasons are valid and this thread is mental.

Blueeyedgirl21 · 10/01/2023 00:04

You are totally within your rights to not go and it sounds really stupidly expensive BUT if you’re really that skint and worried about money as you come across is having so many animals a good idea? You say someone not having to worry about Christmas expense as early as October is a privilege but surely the real privilege is being able to have all these pets ?!

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 10/01/2023 00:15

Blueeyedgirl21 · 10/01/2023 00:04

You are totally within your rights to not go and it sounds really stupidly expensive BUT if you’re really that skint and worried about money as you come across is having so many animals a good idea? You say someone not having to worry about Christmas expense as early as October is a privilege but surely the real privilege is being able to have all these pets ?!

Thanks for your concern but if you had read all the thread you would see that I always put my animals (and children) 1st like every other person I know in RL…

There is a difference between being “skint” (which FYI I have never said in ANY of my posts) and not being able to afford to spend £6/700 on a hen weekend, that difference is priorities and believe it or not these aren’t the same for every person.

And what I actually said about Christmas was after food, bills, fuel and monthly outgoings, financially the only thing I can fit in on top of that from October onwards is Christmas…

This is fairly normal for most families!

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LordSugarTits · 10/01/2023 00:17

"Mumsnetters are weird about things like this."

Nah. Just say you can't make it when asked instead of stringing people out for months on fucking end.

Nobody cares about dogs, horses or trident when they're trying to plan a weekend away. They do care when one of the group messes them about and makes them wait for months though 🤷🏽‍♀️

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