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I’ve killed the wedding group chat (AIBU)

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TheLastTimeISawRichard · 09/01/2023 09:35

NC as a few details may be outing but been around a long time.

Apologies if this is a long one!

My sister is getting married this year to a lovely guy, she has waited a long time to find the one and absolutely deserves all the happiness, we are delighted for her.

I am a bridesmaid as are other family members and my 3 DD’s, it’s all very exiting and my girls have talked about nothing else.

We are however unique in the wedding party in that we live over 500 miles from the rest of them and only member of now hen/bridesmaids chat groups that have any dependants/DC

So not to drip feed and because I think might be relevant to the post, I also have a DH in the Forces who is operational this year and Dogs and larger animals that need taken care of twice daily.

A hen weekend group chat has been set up by sis’s good friend and MoH, let’s call her Sharon. Sharon is lovely and VERY keen, I think I counted 8 “supers” in the first message she sent me back on October, that being said obviously has my DS best interests as heart and wants her to have a lovely time.

Sharon had spoke to my DS and they had decided on a central UK city for the location, I think somewhere my sis would have picked anyway but it was very much sold as this would make it easier for you to get to as middle of country, Sharon has wanted to book and organise for the start of summer since October and I have felt the pressure since her original message back then.

Firstly we have no idea if my DH will be here in the summer, he is working with an ever changing program that we are used to working round and has been the story of us married life but it’s really hard to explain to non service young girls who all work in Mon-Fri 9-5 jobs that we probably won’t know if he’s going to be here and able to be around for our 3 DC and small petting zoo until a few weeks before.

Its also right at the start (like the weekend before) of my eldests GCSE bracket so can’t uproot her or expect someone else to responsible for making sure she is studying etc.

Secondly it’s just all so expensive. Sharon has priced and provisionally booked an AirB&B which covering DS’s share comes to £200, I will be at least £100 on transport and they are looking at booking boozy brunch’s, champagne rooftop bars and dance workshops. I’m definitely not not going to get change out of £600 and that’s if my DH is around I don’t have to look at Kennels for Dog, care for other animals etc and with the wedding shorty after and everything we need to pay out for that just too much!

There are 6 members in the group, obviously my DC are too young and I don’t think it was even considered that my DM and DS’s (soon to be) MIL & SIL’s would come so a very small group and I’m not sure if this is making me more or less guilty.

After sitting on it for a few days and mulling it over with DH & DP’s I sent a (nice) message to the last night saying that with DH’s job, costs, exams and various other moving parts it just wasn’t possible to commit to dates/book and it was going to be financially too much for us, I did however suggest than maybe I could get the train for the day, wasn’t sure if doable but was definitely something I’d look into (and I will)

Since then we have gone from a very quite an annoyingly busy chat to absolutely nothing, and I’m now scared that everyone thinks I’m a right dick…

Admittedly things have changed since I got married 17 years ago, DS (and I’m sure her friends) has been too 3 Hen’s in Marbella in the last 5 years and would think nothing to putting aside £1/2K to spend on each, I had a lovely night at mine but went out for an Italian with my nearest and dearest and then on to a cheap night club with a big inflatable Willy under my arm! My wedding was wonderful and beautiful but definitely not as polished as the cool Insta weddings of today with the trendy venue’s and expensive Dj’s and it’s really skewing my view of what I should have done and how my message last night was received.

It’s also worth mentioning that my sister isn’t on the Hen/Bridesmaid group chat, Sharon is chatting to her separately and then relaying back what she would like and suggestions to make this happen. It feels quite strange as she and I are quite close and talk/message at least 3 times a week and it’s made this quite an elephant in the room and we seem to clunk round it whenever we do chat…

However I’ve bit the bullet and asked if she is free for a call over lunch so I can talk to her about it which feels much more normal to me but I’m sure will will piss off the rest of the group further, unsure if I will add to the hen chat the outcome!

Im not really sure what I’m asking but would be nice to have some views on this.

OP posts:
wyntersuhn · 09/01/2023 14:21

Janieread · 09/01/2023 12:27

We've assumed your dh is out of the picture and that's fine. Even if you can't bear to hire a local teen for one night, can't your 15 year old feed the horses and walk the dogs?? This part is doing my head in, mine have been doing that since they were quite young!

Just because your child has been doing something for years doesn't mean other people's kids are the same. I have two very responsible teenagers and I wouldn't leave them at home responsible for their siblings and the animals while I went away for a long weekend, miles away from them.

Calmdown14 · 09/01/2023 14:21

I'm also thinking that with your 500 miles we might be in the same part of the country (MF for the region?) And many people here cannot grasp the travel logistics and cost of some of the more far flung reaches of our island.

There's a thread from a few months back about a Highland wedding and the suggestions for travel options (get an Uber!) might provide some entertainment.

SleepingStandingUp · 09/01/2023 14:22

Kitcaterpillar · 09/01/2023 14:13

So what if …… is pissed
**
Does your mum generally dislike your sister, or is it specific to this occasion?

But she's right.

So what if the bride is pissed off you won't neglect your kids for a weekend but not providing them with adequate care, if you won't similarly neglect and endanger your animals by leaving them with said kids, and won't load a ton of debt onto a credit card because frankly, that's not a proportionate response to a party invite.

Pipsquiggle · 09/01/2023 14:23

@TheLastTimeISawRichard

Why did you frame it as a cost issue to your DSis? From what you've written, this is the last reason.

rookiemere · 09/01/2023 14:23

I'm glad your family has got your back, but I do take a bit of umbrage at them saying that Sharon should have contacted you outside the group.

She's not a mind reader and you were making vaguely positive noises. It's also possible that Sharon is busy and doesn't have time to work out the nuances of every single person's response.

Having been in a similar situation with prevaricators it's easier just to book the cancellable accommodation, tell everyone their share and flush out who's in and who's not that way.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely don't believe you should go, but you should have pulled out more definitively earlier in the process and also not dragged your Dsis into the details. Literally all you needed to say to her was so sorry can't make it for a number of reasons. Love you and I'll make it up to you when I can.

rookiemere · 09/01/2023 14:24

123ROLO · 09/01/2023 14:20

Yes all comes across quite mean

Like 'silly little girls, getting excited over a hen do, don't they realise people have responsibilities, they are lucky that I even find time to read the messages on the chat'.

We get it, your busy, so much busier than people can even comprehend 🙄.

You have let people down, it happens. People will get over it, but own it and apologise.

And this, absolutely.

MotherOfHouseplants · 09/01/2023 14:24

SleepingStandingUp · 09/01/2023 14:19

And mine. They're not all prim and proper ladies from ye olden days!

Nah. OP's over-egged it now.

'FFS', sure.
'Pissed off'? Absolutely. 'Pissed' on its own to mean 'annoyed'? Doubt it. Unheard of in the UK from over-30s.

Whatwhatwhatnow · 09/01/2023 14:26

MotherOfHouseplants · 09/01/2023 14:24

Nah. OP's over-egged it now.

'FFS', sure.
'Pissed off'? Absolutely. 'Pissed' on its own to mean 'annoyed'? Doubt it. Unheard of in the UK from over-30s.

LOL. I'm in my 40s, have numerous friends (who are also parents) in their 50s, and we absolutely do say pissed off!

What a silly generalisation!

OldFan · 09/01/2023 14:26

You're doing nothing wrong @TheLastTimeISawRichard . Don't do things you can't afford.

This is why some people end up in debt. You are trying to live within your means and that's great.

And if you can't do it in the end at all due to your DH being away, then you can't do it. You can't magically make an impossible thing possible.

Janieread · 09/01/2023 14:27

SleepingStandingUp · 09/01/2023 14:22

But she's right.

So what if the bride is pissed off you won't neglect your kids for a weekend but not providing them with adequate care, if you won't similarly neglect and endanger your animals by leaving them with said kids, and won't load a ton of debt onto a credit card because frankly, that's not a proportionate response to a party invite.

😂

Classic mumsnet AIBU response

Whatwhatwhatnow · 09/01/2023 14:27

Whatwhatwhatnow · 09/01/2023 14:26

LOL. I'm in my 40s, have numerous friends (who are also parents) in their 50s, and we absolutely do say pissed off!

What a silly generalisation!

I meant pissed. We say both.

Janieread · 09/01/2023 14:28

(that was to @SleepingStandingUp@SleepingStandingUp response)

Janieread · 09/01/2023 14:29

wyntersuhn · 09/01/2023 14:21

Just because your child has been doing something for years doesn't mean other people's kids are the same. I have two very responsible teenagers and I wouldn't leave them at home responsible for their siblings and the animals while I went away for a long weekend, miles away from them.

I have in no way suggested she leaves her kids alone for the night.

cyclamenqueen · 09/01/2023 14:29

I'm with you OP, your mum sounds great. It's just a party for goodness sake, what possible long term significance does a spa weekend have on someones lifetime relationship as a sister. Being a good sister is not about spending £600 plus on frankly nothing especially in a cost of living crisis.

I can understand why you said that you couldn't commit back in October , i would have been desperately hoping that they chose one of the cheaper options on the list. However as soon as it's become clear you have backed out and thats sensible.

For the record there is no way I would leave a 15 year old to look after two younger siblings and animals and I probably wouldn't have gone away the weekend before GCSEs either

Pollyputthekettleonha · 09/01/2023 14:29

Your reasons for not going are valid but I do agree you should have been more upfront earlier on. Maybe this is why your sister is upset with you? It does sound like they booked the location so you could get there and now you've pulled out . You have handled this badly. I also don't understand why you couldn't have thought about your sister hen do when you got the message in October. She's your sister, I would have prioritised giving this some thought.

Janieread · 09/01/2023 14:31

Genuinely amazed at all these posters too afraid to leave their 15 year old alone for a few hours in the day BEFORE THE BABY SITTER ARRIVES. How do you get anything done?

KatMcBundleFace · 09/01/2023 14:33

I will never again let a bunch of women I don't know bully me into going away with them, where I get to watch them set fire to a load of money none of them really have. Oh and bonus horror, watch them get all sexual predatory.

I'm lucky enough to have been to so many wonderful weddings, but every single hen do has been shit. That includes my own but at least that wasn't expensive for my friends.

Why are people like this?

TheLastTimeISawRichard · 09/01/2023 14:34

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 09/01/2023 14:21

The main issue for the op is the date, if it was 2/3 weeks earlier her dh would be around meaning most of the issues wouldn't occur. It does take time to work things out especially if you do want to do something but really can't see a way to make it work.

Yes this is correct and I had said as much when the group chat 1st started a few days ago but didn’t suit anyone else.

I think all these comments about how I should have let Sharon know in October have missed two important details…

Firstly, I didn’t have all the information to make a decision, DH’s dates, month it was happening, location…

For example an idea my DS thought about when she 1st for engaged was hiring a cottage with hot tub in the middle of no where and just ordering a big food and wine shop, fire, games, walks etc. yes a booking cost but no other expense while there..

Had Sharon gone with this idea in April I would have been all over it but it was wasn’t an option!

Secondly I WANTED TO GO and didn’t want to say no!

OP posts:
tattygrl · 09/01/2023 14:34

MotherOfHouseplants · 09/01/2023 14:24

Nah. OP's over-egged it now.

'FFS', sure.
'Pissed off'? Absolutely. 'Pissed' on its own to mean 'annoyed'? Doubt it. Unheard of in the UK from over-30s.

Are you serious? You are aware that age and generation groups contain a variety of people with different life experiences, personalities and backgrounds? My DP is 48 and absolutely uses "pissed" for "pissed off", as do his same-age friends of both genders. I think you need to broaden your worldview a bit if you think no one over 30 could conceivably say a particular phrase.

cyclamenqueen · 09/01/2023 14:34

What babysitter , the OP has said that she cannot afford to go to the hen weekend and pay for a babysitter .

rookiemere · 09/01/2023 14:34

@cyclamenqueen If the cost was the major concern OP should have messaged - either in the group or privately- to say the maximum she could afford.
I doubt she was "desperately hoping " they would choose a cheaper option as a) Christmas and b) even if it was free it doesn't get round the other insurmountables such as DD exam date and not knowing her DHs whereabouts.

Stressybetty · 09/01/2023 14:35

Your DS is being unfair to you, surely she's aware of your DH job and home circumstances! Also I have no idea why brides would want their hens to be some big secret. I'd hate not knowing where I'm going and what to plan for!

Janieread · 09/01/2023 14:36

cyclamenqueen · 09/01/2023 14:34

What babysitter , the OP has said that she cannot afford to go to the hen weekend and pay for a babysitter .

I'm replying to those who think it's an impossibility to go away for one night if you have teens and a few animals

She would have had 8 months to save - of course she could have gone if she'd wanted to. But she didn't want to, and that's what's pissed her sister off.

verdantverdure · 09/01/2023 14:36

I think single people with no commitments probably don't understand that it's not always easy to get someone to step in and just take over your life for you for days at a time. It's really only a parents or partner thing.

Or that your money's not really your own any more once you have kids.

And non services people definitely have no idea that you can't plan that far ahead because it's literally not up to you.

Do what's right for you and your family OP. I kind of regret the thousands we spent on other people's weddings out of social obligation and wish we'd avoided most of the hen and stag weekends completely.

Climbles · 09/01/2023 14:37

Just chiming in with the chorus of ‘you don’t really want to go do you’
It’s expensive, it’s too far, it’s too inconvenient don’t feel like problems you couldn’t solve if you really wanted to. It’s your sisters hen do and you should be prepared to inconvenience yourself and spend some cash.
If one of the animals needed vet care you’d find the money, if you needed to go to hospital you’d find someone to look after the kids/house.

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