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Wondering how to refer to my sister's daughter now?

237 replies

LoveMyPiano · 07/01/2023 20:56

I always referred to her as my niece - but she is going into a sort of non-gender stage..... Her name is a very neutral one now. But I still cannot stop referring to her (them??) as my niece. Relation/ships are usually gender specific, and a bit hard to avoid using I have found, but I really don't want to offend. It is the "non-gender" bit that is causing me some difficulty.
Help......

OP posts:
FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 07/01/2023 21:48

Feels like you're over complicating this, how often will you really need to use the term?

If my brothers kid came out as NB then I'd either use their name or say something like 'oh have you seen Johns oldest kid recently? Yeah they've recently changed their name to Moonchild III.' Then I'd use their name from that point on.

Antst · 07/01/2023 21:48

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll, you're being a drama queen! Nope, it will go, how many nieblings do you have or what are their names or whatever and then the OP will say or not say that the person in question is "they." Then anyone with any sense will say "OK." Problem over.

DonkeyOatie · 07/01/2023 21:48

As the parent of a trans gender person, just ask what they prefer.

Doris86 · 07/01/2023 21:49

No matter what she chooses to do to herself, she is still your niece.

bumpytrumpy · 07/01/2023 21:50

ZestFest · 07/01/2023 21:01

She's your niece. You will be doing her no favours by pretending otherwise. It's offensive to ignore reality and biological fact. That's where the actual damage lies.

This

Augend23 · 07/01/2023 21:50

Niblings confused me the first time I heard it used but I was too embarrassed to ask (for fear of ignorance) and now I know with it means it makes sense. I did always hear it in the plural initially. But I think with a singular niece @WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll 's point means it may just cause confusion.

Delphinium20 · 07/01/2023 21:52

Nibling sounds like you want to eat her.

I'm an American (and am in very progressive circles) and no, this is not standard. Most people who have family or friends w/ gender identities simply do their best to not talk about them as there's always a new offense.

PinkSyCo · 07/01/2023 21:52

Nibling?

stormywaves · 07/01/2023 21:54

Just use their name. If it is wider family you are talking to they would probably know who you mean.

Not sure I could take nibling seriously - spell check has not heard of it. I would end up resorting to nibbles, which could be a good pet name.

LuckeyBuoy · 07/01/2023 21:55

Agree with PP that she is your niece.

Idtotallybangdreamoftheendlessnotgonnalie · 07/01/2023 21:56

Nibling.

Works as a collective noun for a mixed gender group of your sibling's children.

Ludo19 · 07/01/2023 21:56

ZestFest · 07/01/2023 21:01

She's your niece. You will be doing her no favours by pretending otherwise. It's offensive to ignore reality and biological fact. That's where the actual damage lies.

This

weedytrophies · 07/01/2023 21:57

'Nibling'. It's just so ridiculous - in sound and in concept!

This whole regressive gender-reinforcement stuff is depressing most of the time, but at least there are opportunities for a good old belly laugh.

Cellotapedispenser · 07/01/2023 21:57

Absolute eye roll. I'd keep well away until she's realised she's being an utter plonker.

Stickmansmum · 07/01/2023 21:58

The undertone from you OP is not great. Thats what you should be working on rather than wondering this. You were looking for validation for your negative thoughts on your 'situation'. The 'what do I call my niece' is not why you posted.

Sundayvibes · 07/01/2023 21:58

Ask your sister what she wants to be called.
strangers on tinternet won’t know.
bizarre thread

TheOriginalEmu · 07/01/2023 22:00

LoveMyPiano · 07/01/2023 20:56

I always referred to her as my niece - but she is going into a sort of non-gender stage..... Her name is a very neutral one now. But I still cannot stop referring to her (them??) as my niece. Relation/ships are usually gender specific, and a bit hard to avoid using I have found, but I really don't want to offend. It is the "non-gender" bit that is causing me some difficulty.
Help......

Nibling. That’s what my sister calls my kids.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 07/01/2023 22:00

WhaleTanker · 07/01/2023 21:46

What's the word when an aunt or uncle are non-binary?

As in the reverse of nibling.

Nibbling doesn't make sense to me, as it sounds like sibling, but niece and nephew is a generation down, not the same generation as siblings are.

Nildren/nild would make more sense.

My mum/dads sibling...

TheOriginalEmu · 07/01/2023 22:01

weedytrophies · 07/01/2023 21:57

'Nibling'. It's just so ridiculous - in sound and in concept!

This whole regressive gender-reinforcement stuff is depressing most of the time, but at least there are opportunities for a good old belly laugh.

Why is it ridiculous? It’s just a word to refer to your siblings children. Do you find the word sibling ridiculous? If not, why not?

Robyn847 · 07/01/2023 22:03

Another vote for "nibling". She is your nibling. Her/their brother is also your nibling. Spell check seems to say it's got 2 b's. Nibblings. It's a lovely word.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 07/01/2023 22:04

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll, you're being a drama queen! Nope, it will go, how many nieblings do you have or what are their names or whatever and then the OP will say or not say that the person in question is "they." Then anyone with any sense will say "OK." Problem over.

Neither of us can really know for sure. All I know is that, if you introduce "My baby" to people, the first question will almost certainly be 'boy or girl?' It's natural to seek the additional information you need to continue the conversation - especially as most people will want to know whether to refer to somebody as 'he' or 'she'.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it really odd when people use deliberately confusing terms to refer to known individuals - like when people on MN keep referring to their partner as 'they', when the likelihood is that they probably do already know what sex their partner is. 'Nibling' is already a bizarre enough word to use, knowing that barely anybody will know what it means, when you could have said niece or nephew, which every English speaker is fully familiar with - people will just wonder what you're trying to hide or thinking you're showing off your vocabulary.

HappyCrappyNewYear · 07/01/2023 22:04

Useruser1 · 07/01/2023 21:01

Use niece.
If she's around, use her name

This
Niobe knows what a niebling is

Herroyal · 07/01/2023 22:05

Just say niece. No big deal.

ofwarren · 07/01/2023 22:05

How often do you use the word niece, in front of your niece?

This is a non issue. Just continue calling her your niece.

MaydinEssex · 07/01/2023 22:06

I'll probably be told off, but I would still call her your niece because that is what m she is. Just because she is jumping on the non binary bandwagon doesn't mean you have to as well.

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