Shaming people on Facebook

[Jessiejines]

AIBU that shaming people on Facebook should be illegal?

I'm on about the ones on local community Facebook groups who post pictures of people.

Example of some from my local:

Image of some man walking his dog with a woman in the early hours. Quite a grainy shot so can't really see their faces.

"Anybody recognise these two? I think they've let their dog poop on my front garden and not picked it up".

Picture of a young lady itting on a field.

"Just seen this young girl throw rubbish on the field. Should be taught some manners"

Picture of a white van with the license plate on show

"Watch out for this van. Seems a bit dodgy knocking on doors"

I know a lot of the time it's about problems like rubbish, littering etc. but I think posting photos of people online is a bit like a witch-hunt. Especially when other people comment aswell.

It's cowardly but most online stuff is when allowed to comment.

It’s ridiculous but it’s the only way this mob understand to deal with their frustrations. These are the same people you see buying rose gold Michael Kors, thinking an A Class or a 1 Series is the pinnacle of success, the curtain twitching older mob who think having a Ring doorbell makes them an extension of GCHQ, the ones who say “I worked hard for this and some scrote thinks they can X” when precisely nothing has actually taken place as a crime.

hate the mentality, loathe it.

I just think of being one of those people finding themselves on the local Facebook group being absolutely slandered by a load of ransoms.
Imagine logging on to a post about you dropping litter (which I don't agree with either) to then read comments that are slating your looks, your upbringing, how disgusting you are etc.

My favourite one was when a particularly bristling repeat offender type posted her latest screen grab from her Ring doorbell (ugh cannot begin to describe how uppity and self important these stupid things make people).

she posts a picture of a man in a blue fleece coming to her door at 0500 and says “BEWARE OF THIS MAN, he walked up my path and then turned around and left. He was clearly casing the house for people to follow up. Criminals mark out houses like this, BE AWARE”

15 mins later , third post -

“That’s Phil from Milk and More he’s new on our road. He must have got the wrong house”.

absolute silence from the OP…

Picture of a young lady [sh]itting on a field.

@SavoirFlair hahaha that actually made me laugh! I find most end up that way haha!

Except the laat one I can't get worked up. Though the first one said "think" so that might be out of line. If he they it on video, I am with them.

Sometimes it’s the only way to shame these people into changing their behaviour. I saw a post recently where a child’s wheelchair had been stolen by a scrap man. Scrap man then commented saying yes it was me, so what, I got £2 for your (disabled slur) chair and I don’t care. Judging by the comments nobody will ever be giving him any scrap ever again.

We have that on our local one.

I got sick of it about 5 years ago, every sodding van resulted in a "watch out, traveller potentially spotted, lock all doors and windows". With a numberplate, and often photo of occupant.

The final straw was a good mate of ours who is a gardener, came over from two towns over to cut our garden hedge down. His van is sign written. Within 10 minutes of him arriving into the village, there is his van, his numberplate, and him coming out a shop (he was grabbing some sweets for our kids as he is their godfather) accusing him of potential theft and being a traveller (except not using that word, the P word and dirty thieving before it).

I went mental on there, pointed out what they are doing is disgusting, it's harassment and could cost someone their livelihoods by naming and shaming them. I pointed out that using derogatory terms about travellers made it obvious what racist bigots they were, and no doubt offline they had colourful terms for other races too.

Did they feel ashamed? Nope. I'm now the "p*y woman" and was banned from the group. Not before being abused by a number of them.

Bloody gammon.

It still goes on though. And they are just disgustingly racist now openly too apparently.

I'm not on local fb groups - and this is one of the main reasons.

I also hate it when my curtain-twitching, Tory-voting neighbours screenshot the posts and send them to the street (sorry, 'close') whatsapp group. God forbid an unfamiliar van should park on the road or an unfamiliar man be seen loitering nearby...

That's fucking disgusting.

When there is actual proof I am strongly for people pposting. In times gone by people would taalk to each other in the area, now we do it online. Like ahoplifters having pics on shop entrances. Works

I don't get what p*y is... am I being really thick?

The aforementioned street whatsapp group went mental when a van appeared on our road at 4am one morning... caught on someone's ring doorbell. The whole street also checked their ring footage and someone got a numberplate, which they googled... turned out to be our milkman. 🙄

Also who is in control of these pages. On my local one the power has gone to their head. Someone hit my parked car and I asked for witnesses. The person that did it got in touch with the page admin and said they'd been to the police take it down. They hadn't. Asked admin for the person to get in touch with me, given the run around, asked for their name to message myself to swap insurers/check not a time waster, admin refused and got arsey with me for asking again. Just wanted to know who had hit my car for insurers! Took a few days for them to go to the police.

It doesn't seem right they have this power, they could withhold things eg crime related if it benefited them or a family member. They've had no information governance or safeguarding training and and are accountable to no one, yet have so much influence.

Oh I dunno. It's a good threat and does work for changing antisocial behaviours.
My house and many others around the town were being targeted by little feral shits throwing things at windows, kicking or trying to open doors etc.
People would post about it on FB, often upset that their elderly parents were being harassed and there would be a wave of locals saying "not my kid" or "it's not like we can watch them 24/7 and keep them locked up inside" or best one, "Oh come one, we all played knock a door as kids!". (Made it extra annoying that we knew it actually was their child)

Funnily enough it stopped the second people started posting cctv screenshots of the kids doing it and then naming the parents. Suddenly parents could control their children. Would you believe it? Like magic!

I won't post any van warnings unless there's actual proof they're up to no good. Too many are just random attacks on legitimate van owning workers. "No Myrtle, they're not looking to steal your designer Jackapooador, they're the carpet cleaning guys employed by your neighbour!"

It reminds me of the old Neighbourhood Watch but on balance I'd rather live in a nosy area than the alternative I think. You can probably ignore 80% of speculative posts but on the odd occasion they will deter the person who lets their dogs crap everywhere or get footage of the twat who robbed your catalytic converter.

Sometimes its the only way to stop antisocial behavior.

In fairness, they probably mean well and as Sugar Plum says it might make them think twice.

what I find annoying is that people can’t think critically and will believe everything they read and jump on the band waggon slagging someone off without having any evidence what they’ve read is true. It’s so dangerous.

I get why people post, because some issues there are no other routes to sort out and them want to sort it by social media.

I reckon they deserve it, if you don't want to be shamed then don't act like a pig 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yes posting photos is not acceptable. I even hate it when pictures of cars are posted blocking a pavement because occasionally I do that to get urgent work post in the post box on time and I literally leave the car for 2 seconds and always check no-one is coming down the pavement, but i am waiting for the day some person snaps a pic and posts it. Today we have also had one of a local Dr being branded incompetent, fortunately no name posted and I was pleased to see many posters praising the surgery as all the Gp's are good. Just now there was the usual post about huge piles of dog shit being left outside a shop but that is justified as it is anonymous and those people absolutely should be shamed.

Oh no! It's the "make it illegal" brigade.

Why do you need Daddy Government to solve all your problems and kiss all your little owwies? Grow up.

Try going trail hunting - which is perfectly legal btw.

Photos of my kids have been on hunt sab fb pages with comments calling them cunts and saying they should be tortured to death. People feel justified to have a go at anyone online.

Exactly the same thing happened on our local fb group.
The man checking out their house was the driver from the local pizza shop, he went up to the wrong door. But obviously because he was 'foreign looking' he was up to no good.

I assume "p*y" refers to an offensive term often used for travellers - it's quite commonly known and used sadly and I am sure it is one you will have heard, but I don't want to use it here.

Lots of anti-Traveller sentiment generally on the local Facebook group I used to be a member of a good few years back - I wasn't so internet savvy then but now would know to report it immediately to the moderators, and if they don't take it down, then to Facebook itself, who I presume (hope) would take action against the open expression of racist sentiment?

Who is this aimed at? The OP and others objecting to Facebook shaming, or the Facebook shamers themselves objecting to people dropping litter etc? Genuine question - I am curious to know.

Most people agree there should be some kind of rule of law, and that some stuff should be illegal. But if you are a genuine anarchist that is very interesting! I don't think you find many of those on Mumsnet.....