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To give a cash reward to the twin who gets the best GCSE results?

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Stackss · 06/01/2023 11:33

DS and DD are both in year 11 so have their GCSEs coming up shortly. Both are bright and of very similar if not identical academic ability and are predicted very similar grades.

Both are relatively hard working (although with a tendency to coast) but DH and I would really like them to knuckle down and push themselves to get the best grades possible.

We therefore came up with the idea of an effort-based reward scheme allowing them to earn treats for completing revision- e.g. 75 hours= a meal out, 150 hours= a night away etc.

However, both twins have suggested that instead, the twin who gets the best results should receive the whole cash reward. They are both competitive with each other and have said this would give them greater incentive to work harder.

My concern is that the twin who doesn't do as well will be doubly disappointed on results day as they will also get no reward. Should I go with the twins' suggestion?

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JangolinaPitt · 06/01/2023 13:28

This
all this payment by grade etc is appalling
give them both a nice treat after the exams and before the results

Testina · 06/01/2023 13:29

My friend’s twins are “friendly” competitive too. They’d also draw up a timetable but then want a formula to reward more points for who got the best grades with the least effort 😉

pa1ace · 06/01/2023 13:31

If it was "totally self-driven," money wouldn't even be mentioned!

Can you not see this OP?

redskydelight · 06/01/2023 13:32

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:28

@Nowfeeltheneedtopost

To be clear the competition comes from themselves and is not driven by us at all. They have always been competitive with regard to test results etc.

It is no bad thing in my view as it is totally self-driven.

Doesn't mean it is healthy or desirable or that the twin that "loses" doesn't have their self esteem knocked.

You should encourage your twins to compete against their own standards and not those of other people (even their sibling).

lifeturnsonadime · 06/01/2023 13:33

It's not 'between themselves' or 'self driven' when you are offering them cash incentives!

You are kidding yourself.

BashfulClam · 06/01/2023 13:34

I like this idea. They both get a reward then.

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:35

@redskydelight

In my view it is no different to winning a race or an art competition. Both twins are of equal ability- if they want to compete against themselves on grades, I have no issue with it.

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Ssmiler · 06/01/2023 13:36

If it’s helpful I offered to pay a set amount at the end of the study period, prior to exams starting, for good study effort. How this was to be assessed was based on x number of hours daily with no electronics ever in the room -phone etc only to be used on planned breaks and only in the family room.

This was a huge issue as I’d had no success in taking the electronics out before. I offered this money and was told no as the electronic restriction wasn’t acceptable! A few days later it was accepted as the draw of the money was too great. It made a huge difference to the grades as compared to previous performance - the phone had been a huge distraction

Obviously if their work is on iPads etc you need will need work arounds with devices on aeroplane mode etc. But this was our way of ensuring quality of revision and it worked for us.

PurplePinecone · 06/01/2023 13:37

I would go with the monetary amount per grade. In addition you could have something like the winner with highest grades gets to pick the celebration event. I.e. location of holiday or restaurant to go etc? So interests their competitive side, but both still get something for good grades

Nowfeeltheneedtopost · 06/01/2023 13:37

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:28

@Nowfeeltheneedtopost

To be clear the competition comes from themselves and is not driven by us at all. They have always been competitive with regard to test results etc.

It is no bad thing in my view as it is totally self-driven.

I disagree. It is, of course, a bad thing. It has kept your children in some kind of “4 yr old” play patterns. I have a Y11 DC and they have learnt the importance of understanding their own levels vs their friends / cousins etc. And even if they had similar predictions, they understand that their friends or cousins getting 9s doesn’t impact their own ability to get 9s. I feel really sorry for your DC. What do you think your “approach” will deliver beyond GCSEs?

lifeturnsonadime · 06/01/2023 13:37

There is a massive difference between having no issue with them competing against each other and actively encouraging it by using money to reward the 'winner' which is what your incentive scheme does.

pa1ace · 06/01/2023 13:41

OP, twins or groups of friends will naturally compete with each other (openly or otherwise). I'm not sure why you think this is so unique to your twins or why you are making such a hoo-haa about it.

What most families do not need to do is pay their DC to revise. Nor di they need to make grades transactional. This element is 100% about you.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 06/01/2023 13:43

redskydelight · 06/01/2023 12:52

I always wonder if the children who get "money per grade" actually do any more work than they were planning to anyway.
I have a strong suspicion that most don't.

I got paid for my exam grades and it did not influence the work I did at all. It was nice to receive some cash but I worked for the grades and not the money.

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:44

@Ssmiler

Thanks- that's useful advice. How many hours of revision did you expect per day to earn the reward?

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Needmorelego · 06/01/2023 13:45

@Stackss GCSEs shouldn't be a competition though.
They are exams to show the person has understood the subject and to lead them on to the next stage in life.

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:47

@Needmorelego

GCSEs very much are a competition as they are graded on a bell curve. Only X percentage can achieve a 9 in each subject for example due ti the way grade boundaries work.

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LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 06/01/2023 13:49

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/01/2023 12:30

Observe whether they’re doing their work/ revision or not

Im not saying you reward one who did more than the other, just observe if they are giving it their best shot.

Or that’s what my parents (my Mum tbh) did.

I did well in my exams and would have cleaned up if they paid per result, and esp if they had paid for whichever of the three of us did best (albeit with a four year wait). However, although all three of us have good jobs, I am the least well paid (public sector) with the best A level results and brother who did least well is the best paid. So it’s not all about exam results!

But the parent shouldn’t be micro managing revision to the extent that they know exactly how much is done. Also things that paying attention in class etc will have a huge impact. What if the child says I won’t pay attention in class but do an hour of staring at a book tonight instead, from the parents perspective they have done great as it was visible to them but in reality maybe not so much.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 06/01/2023 13:50

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:44

@Ssmiler

Thanks- that's useful advice. How many hours of revision did you expect per day to earn the reward?

Surely that depends on what else they have had on that day.

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:51

@LiquoriceAllsorts2

Any parent who does not know how much revision their DC is doing is negligent in my view. It's not about micromanaging- it's about encouraging and supporting teenagers to do their best.

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Needmorelego · 06/01/2023 13:51

@Stackss well they bloody shouldn't be a competition.
What grade a child gets should be relevant to them and them only.

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:52

@LiquoriceAllsorts2

Not really- in our house education always comes first, particularly in the few months before GCSEs.

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redskydelight · 06/01/2023 13:55

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:47

@Needmorelego

GCSEs very much are a competition as they are graded on a bell curve. Only X percentage can achieve a 9 in each subject for example due ti the way grade boundaries work.

And knowing that you realise that makes your scheme even more bonkers ... your DC could work every hour of the day and still not get a 9 if it just turns out that they are in a particularly able cohort.

My DD spent most of the Easter holidays before GCSEs working on her Art and Drama portfolios. I got very twitchy around the fact the she was doing scarcely any revision. She told me not to worry. Guess what - it turned out she had a better idea of how much she needed to work and what she needed to focus on, than I did. If I'd insisted on a system like yours she would have felt compelled to work at her other subjects and do worse all round than she actually did.

VladmirsPoutine · 06/01/2023 13:57

A thread 9 pages in and you're still not taking on board anyone's reasons why it's a bad idea so just go for it. Offer 2k to the one that gets the highest grade.

Stackss · 06/01/2023 13:58

@VladmirsPoutine

We aren't going with the idea of only rewarding one if you read my post below.

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Needmorelego · 06/01/2023 13:59

@Stackss now I feel even more sorry for your twins.
"Education always comes first" - so no Scouts or Guides? No exercise like going swimming or the gym? No going to the library and picking a book just because they fancy reading it?
My niece was a Brownie helper during her GCSE years. She (age 22) is now a assistant manager at a nursery so doing that Brownie leading was very educational.

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