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AIBU?

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to think I'm just an unlikable person

74 replies

wonderinglyconfused · 05/01/2023 14:53

I'm a female in my late thirties. I have a husband and 2 children and have a tight network of friends, although the circle isn't a big one. I'm naturally an introvert, but I'm generally a good communicator and am able to override my instinct to be quiet and shy and be warm and friendly to people. In the past years in work, I have forged good relationships and friendships with people and haven't noticed a difficulty in getting along with people.

I changed jobs last year, and have now encountered someone who literally can't even make eye contact with me when we are working on the same floor. He is friendly with other people, but he will literally act as though I am not there. I share my office with a colleague, and this person will come into our office to chat with my colleague about non work related things and he will literally turn his back on me. He won't even give me a courteous "hello" or a smile as he enters, even though I obviously look up to see who is coming into the room.

I returned to work after Christmas this week, but my office share has got an additional week off. Yesterday this person came into my room to ask me whether my office share had sent off some files before Christmas. He didn't bother with any of the usual niceties of "Hello" or "Happy New Year", he just straight up asked me about what our colleague had done. Although I share the office with another person, we actually work in completely different departments and our jobs have nothing to do with each other, so why he was asking I have no idea as I wouldn't have been able to tell him. I said I wasn't sure as it wasn't my department and he walked off. No "thanks anyway" or "do you know someone who would know", he just walked off.
I know it shouldn't bother me, but it really does that this person is so uninterested in even being polite towards me. I hear him in the corridor and rec room chatting and laughing with everyone else, and it literally feels like he's just got an issue with me. It's started to make me think that there's really something wrong with me.
Weirdly enough, I also have this issue with my brother in law. I don't see him very often, so I don't dwell on it the way I am doing now with this work colleague, but whenever we meet at family gatherings, he finds it impossible to talk to me, look at me or generally acknowledge that I exist. I've told my husband about this (it's his sister's husband). And he thought that I was reading into something that wasn't there. Incidentally my husband gets on incredibly well with him. But at Christmas this year, my husband conceded that I was indeed correct, after making a conscious effort to really notice how my BIL behaved towards me. He agreed that this man won't look at me. When we were in a group of adults and I was speaking, he would look at his drink without looking up once. And when it was his turn to speak, he would make eye contact with everyone in the group as he spoke, except me. My husband was shocked at just how blatant it was that he was so determined not to give any form of acknowledgement. I literally can't think of anything I would have done to cause this behaviour. We hardly see my SIL and BIL and I am always warm and friendly when we meet. I get on very well with my husband's sister (BIL wife) and have a good relationship with their kids when we do see them.
I guess these two incidences cropping up so close together have got me thinking... is there something wrong or unlikeable about me? Am I giving off some vibe which stops these people from even giving me the basics of manners. Of course I can't expect everyone to like me, but surely I should be able to expect everyone I spend time with to be polite towards me? It just seems so crazy that I know two people who act like I'm not there in my presence? AIBU to think there's something wrong with me? Has anyone else encountered something like this? Is this something I can fix? Or do I just need to accept that they are going to continue to behave like that and just try to manage my feelings around it? Any ideas as to why they might behave like this towards me? I can't help but be a little hurt by their behaviour.

OP posts:
dicker · 05/01/2023 14:56

you can’t be liked by everyone, nor can you expect every person you encounter in life to be warm and friendly towards you. Some people are weird/have their own shit going on. It’s just how it is

SleeplessInEngland · 05/01/2023 14:57

I think a big tenet of being an adult is accepting that not everyone will like you and that doesn't necessarily make you an unlikeable person.

willowbough · 05/01/2023 15:00

Not everyone will like you. You have to try to not let that bother you and continue professional and unperturbed as you have been. It may not even be the case, that it is dislike, with either of those examples.

There was a good link to further reading someone posted a while back but I'm afraid I can't find it.

KateLumpy · 05/01/2023 15:03

I've accepted not everyone will like you! It doesn't matter if you're the nicest person in the world. Don't dwell on it, easier said than done though!

Panpastels · 05/01/2023 15:03

Do you consider yourself physically attractive? Just wondering as they are both men, if it's some weirdness about that (not wanting to be seen as friendly or something because you're attractive).

magicscares · 05/01/2023 15:05

Sounds like they are the ones with the issue. Not you. Hurtful though sometimes is, people just don’t gel unfortunately.
Have you made an effort with them out of interest?

Mamai90 · 05/01/2023 15:06

Some people are just rude fuckers. Honestly, it sounds like this guy has no basic manners. It's not you. It's him.

BigMadAdrian · 05/01/2023 15:06

Panpastels · 05/01/2023 15:03

Do you consider yourself physically attractive? Just wondering as they are both men, if it's some weirdness about that (not wanting to be seen as friendly or something because you're attractive).

This was my first thought too! That they fancy you.

Mamai90 · 05/01/2023 15:07

BigMadAdrian · 05/01/2023 15:06

This was my first thought too! That they fancy you.

This was my first thought too.

Blueheartpinkheart · 05/01/2023 15:07

Reading this, my first thought was is he attracted to you?? Boys in the playground being mean to the girls they like type of thing?

Friendlyplover · 05/01/2023 15:09

I am grateful for you starting this thread op as I have been having this issue and it's been getting me down! Especially the coming into the office and turning their back on you etc. It probably sounds trivial but we spend so much time at work it grinds you down!

Fairyliz · 05/01/2023 15:09

If they are chatty with other people so not weirdos and you haven’t upset them then they obviously fancy you.
Tbf they probably realise it’s inappropriate so deal with it by not looking/interacting with you.

Snoopystick · 05/01/2023 15:12

Agree with the fancying you thing. Total fess here but my DH has an extremely attractive friend who thankfully we do not see very often as I get flustered and become a gibbering wreck when he talks to me 😬

FromTheFront2theBack · 05/01/2023 15:13

They could be attracted to you. You could remind them of someone from their past. They could just have taken a completely random dislike to you. They could be trying to bully you.

It's fine not to be liked by everyone. Obviously these people are in the wrong if they can't even muster up basic courtesy and manners. Since this doesn't happen with most people you meet I think you can safely say it's them not you.

I would just hold your head up high, continue to be polite but don't make any effort to win them over.

Friendlyplover · 05/01/2023 15:16

Op also the things that helped me with this if someone doesn't know you well and they appear not to like you then it's a)either some projection of theirs or you remind them of a person they know that they dislike b) you may have 'slighted' them first etc without realising things like that are not big deals, just keep being polite and they'll look stupid.

BigMadAdrian · 05/01/2023 15:16

I have observed that if a man is attracted to a woman and she is unavailable (or he considers her out of his league) then he will be like this. Obviously not in every single case, but I definitely recognise this behaviour. If they think they have a chance then they are flirty, etc.

Friendlyplover · 05/01/2023 15:17

Sorry lack a comma - it was meant to be just you may have 'slighted' them first etc without realising,

SleeplessInEngland · 05/01/2023 15:19

The 'he's being a dick towards you so maybe he's attracted to you' sounds like fanciful rom-com BS to me. Sometimes people are just dicks.

Growyourowncrumpets · 05/01/2023 15:21

Are you very attractive, or unattractive. If it’s former he may fancy you, latter he’s a sexist pig that doesn’t deem you worth bother.
Regardless of either of these men liking, or disliking you, unless you’ve done something deeply offensive, there is no excuse for them not offering you the basic courtesy of acknowledging your existence, it says more about them than you.

Thepeopleversuswork · 05/01/2023 15:25

I have to say it crossed my mind that these blokes might both fancy you. It would explain their behaviour.

Whatever the reason, its a them problem not a you problem. You have a husband and a good circle of friends so there's clearly no issue with you.

And as others have said, you just can't go through life worrying about whether people like you or not. Some will, some won't but trying to appeal to everyone will backfire: it won't make the people who don't like you like you any more and will make you seem inauthentic to the people who do like you.

Just crack on. You sound as if you're doing fine. Don't waste head space on the dubious motives of two blokes who may or may not like you.

QuertyGirl · 05/01/2023 15:32

I have someone at work (a bloke) who acts like this. I'm a frump so it's not attraction.

He's just a dick. I'm overly nice to him and make a point of chatting to him- it amuses me no end.

You don't have to like everyone at work but basic courtesy to all is essential.

It's him, not you

Runningfire · 05/01/2023 15:33

Please don’t push the old ‘they're mean to you because they fancy you’ trope. They’re mean because they’re not nice people / don’t like you. People are perfectly able to make polite conversation and say hello and goodbye at work even to people they fancy. Stop letting them off the hook with this rubbish.

with the work guy I would as for a meeting to discuss if there is an issue

Aquamarine1029 · 05/01/2023 15:39

Honestly, op, stop giving a fuck. These people simply don't matter.

Heronwatcher · 05/01/2023 15:46

I think I’d take a slightly different approach with the different people. With your BIL I think I’d take minimal action- you could possibly mention it to his partner and see if he has ever said anything to her? Or whether he’s like that with other people? But very tactfully. With the person at work I’d be tempted to ask them directly but politely whether you have done something which has upset them and then see what they say. If there’s nothing they can say then I wouldn’t put up with it as it’s a form of bullying and you are entitled not to be made to feel uncomfortable at work.

10HailMarys · 05/01/2023 15:49

One or two people being standoffish with you doesn't mean you're an unlikable person.

It's perfectly possible that your colleague is just shy and only chats with people he's already got to know for a while - it's a bit rude of him, but it doesn't mean you're unlikable. And your BIL is your husband's sister's husband, so literally the only thing you have in common is that you and he both married people from the same family. He just sounds like a bit of a twat to me and I wouldn't worry about it. It's his problem, not yours.

Honestly, you really don't need to worry about this! Even if these two people do find you unlikable (which I actually doubt is the case), that doesn't mean you are an unlikable person in general. Not everyone we meet can/will like us.

You're married and you have a tight group of friends, and you're sufficiently self-aware (and nice enough!) to make the effort to be warm and friendly even though you're shy - I think it's very unlikely that you're not a likable person. You're someone who makes an effort. Your colleague and your BIL are not, and that's on them.

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