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To quit my job

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namechange0998776554799000 · 28/12/2022 12:35

Background: I used to work full time. DS is autistic and was permanently excluded from school this year. It happened at the same time as a bereavement and I was signed off work with stress, then they agreed I could take unpaid leave until we found him a new school. He started in September and I went back part time, 5 days a week but school hours only. We have no childcare outside of school, no one can care for DS. DH works full time, mostly from home but sometimes in the office - quite flexible. I work from home.

New school say they won't exclude DS, but he frequently refuses to go in. On those days we have several hours of very stressful negotiation and sometimes he stays home, sometimes DH takes him in late. School is an hour away and he's supposed to go by taxi. It's the closest school that will take him.

DS has violent meltdowns often. We've both been hurt and I'm emotionally and physically exhausted. I'm feeling it more after a few days of mixing with family which means I'm constantly on edge trying to keep safe. DS is extremely attached to me and has to be physically touching me at all times which is very draining. He can't cope with noise so I spent a lot of Christmas shut in a room with him while the rest of the extended family enjoyed Christmas together. I'm feeling quite miserable at the moment.

I'm due to change roles at work when I go back next week which will mean more responsibility (line management, being primary contact for clients). This is what I was doing when I was full time but even before DS was excluded I was struggling to cope. When I went back I was planning to negotiate for a more flexible or lower workload role, but my company happened to make a large proportion of the workforce redundant at exactly the same time. I now have no leverage, it's this role or nothing. I was lucky that for the last few months I didn't have much to do while they found me a new role (I missed the redundancies because I was on leave).

If DS goes to school, all is great - I enjoy working, I earn a lot of money and I like socialising with other adults. But on the days he refuses, I face a few hours of being attacked which means I'm going to miss meetings and I'm going to be exhausted and struggle to cope. On the days we can't get him in, even late, it's going to be very hard to work at all. Plus he has appointments about once a week which take several hours out of the day. So far I've just been taking him without telling work but I can't keep getting away with that in the new role.

Before he was excluded we realised it wasn't working with both of us working full time and decided one of us would need to quit. At the time DS was being sent home frequently and we've never had childcare outside of school hours (he started in 2020 so not unusual at first). We agreed it should be DH who should quit because I earn more, his job was less secure at the time, and he had a chronic illness. He didn't want to quit and basically put it off so long that I gave up and ended up being signed off then taking leave myself. To be honest I don't want DH to quit either. I don't want to be outing, but we both feel that his job is more 'worthwhile' - it's a vocation he's been working toward all his life, highly skilled, something that will benefit society. And he loves it. My job is just a generic office job - I get paid a lot, but I don't particularly care about it and it definitely isn't a vocation.

We can't really afford to live on DH's salary. But every time DS refuses school my anxiety levels go off the scale and my brain screams that I need to quit - I just can't cope with work on top of everything else. I really want to hand in my notice next week. But, that means accepting no more holidays, no bigger house, probably very hard times financially. Plus, I can't drive. I have tried- I took lessons for 10 years, passed on my 4th test, drove for a couple of years but crashed several times. DS is being assessed for dyspraxia and i e had a lightbulb moment recently that maybe I have it too and that's why I can't drive, ride a bike etc. so that means even if I quit, DH will still have to miss work to drive him to school, to appointments etc. plus his chronic illness may mean surgery this year which would mean several weeks/months this year.

God I'm so miserable. I wish there was a magic button that could make our lives better. I don't know why I think quitting work is going to help anything. I just don't know how I'm going to cope.

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Neolara · 29/12/2022 09:06

Op - do you know why he is reluctant to go to school? Has there been a proper transition plan ( eg opportunity to visit school when no kids there, chance to get to know key members of staff, visual timetable for the week so he knows what is happening, plan made with your ds about what will happen in break and lunch time, planned meet and greet etc?). Does he have and EHCP? Is he having any support for how to manage his anxiety? What is different about the days he goes in?

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 09:37

Neolara · 29/12/2022 09:06

Op - do you know why he is reluctant to go to school? Has there been a proper transition plan ( eg opportunity to visit school when no kids there, chance to get to know key members of staff, visual timetable for the week so he knows what is happening, plan made with your ds about what will happen in break and lunch time, planned meet and greet etc?). Does he have and EHCP? Is he having any support for how to manage his anxiety? What is different about the days he goes in?

Oh that's a very long story. EHCP took over a year, by which point he was extremely traumatised. Finally got current special school named a week before he started so no transition period. The whole process has been horrific for all of us, which sadly is not at all uncommon for SEN children. I completely understand why he doesn't want to go in - two hours a day in a taxi with other dysregulated children, he gets travel sick, once at school he is often hurt by other children and often has to be restrained. But this is our closest special school and no other schools in the county or neighbouring counties will take him. There are only 2 other children and 3 adults in his class.

We could home school (if I quit working), but he would never engage with any learning. He's incredibly bright but can't read, write, draw, socialise - and giving up on school would mean accepting that will always be the case.

I have raised a complaint over the EHCP and his treatment, the process will probably take another year and I expect we will get financial compensation at the end of that, but it won't fix anything.

We will keep working on improving his school experience. The school are very good at working with us and he's having weekly CAMHS appointments to work on his anxiety. They want us to consider medication next. Maybe things will improve.

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JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 10:06

What about asking for parental leave? It’s unpaid but would give you some breathing space.

It sounds like you need an early review of the EHCP as it isn’t meeting his current needs. You don’t need to EHE. If school is suitable have you considered EOTAS? Does the EHCP include OT, SALT and MH therapies?

If DS can’t attend school full time the LA must arrange alternative provision to ensure he receives a suitable full time education and anything specified and quantified in F.

It's the closest school that will take him.
But this is our closest special school and no other schools in the county or neighbouring counties will take him.

Is there another school that you think is suitable? If so, is it wholly independent? Because if it isn’t you can force the school to take DS even if they object.

Have you had social care assessments?

If you haven’t already look at Yvonne Newbold’s resources.


Check if you are (or would be if you stopped work) eligible for UC, the maximum income is higher than many think when there’s a disabled DC. You may also be entitled to transport costs for medical appointments.

DelphiniumBlue · 29/12/2022 10:19

Don't give up work, it sounds like it is actually a lifesaver for you.
I would look into one or both of you going part time so that there is often one of you free at home, and also look into getting more support. Are you entitled to any allowances( I don't know what is available but other people on here will) that will help fund specialised support? You need practical help in finding solutions, GP and school might be able to signpost, otherwise maybe SS?
Residential care might be be an option? It's not clear if DS is in a specialist school.

foobio · 29/12/2022 10:33

You say if you were to drive DC to school you would have to quit work. But you mentioned that you WFH, so could it be viable to find a space to work in near his school, so that you can drive him, work nearby and drive him home again at the end of the day and save on the lost commuting time?

DDivaStar · 29/12/2022 10:52

It really doesn't sound like life is working for any of you and with your new job role it'll be even more stressful.

It doesn't sound practical for you to quit. Could your H drop his hours. I get his job is important to him but it shouldn't trump his families happiness.......

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:24

JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 10:06

What about asking for parental leave? It’s unpaid but would give you some breathing space.

It sounds like you need an early review of the EHCP as it isn’t meeting his current needs. You don’t need to EHE. If school is suitable have you considered EOTAS? Does the EHCP include OT, SALT and MH therapies?

If DS can’t attend school full time the LA must arrange alternative provision to ensure he receives a suitable full time education and anything specified and quantified in F.

It's the closest school that will take him.
But this is our closest special school and no other schools in the county or neighbouring counties will take him.

Is there another school that you think is suitable? If so, is it wholly independent? Because if it isn’t you can force the school to take DS even if they object.

Have you had social care assessments?

If you haven’t already look at Yvonne Newbold’s resources.


Check if you are (or would be if you stopped work) eligible for UC, the maximum income is higher than many think when there’s a disabled DC. You may also be entitled to transport costs for medical appointments.

I've just taken 6 months leave so I don't see how taking more would help, I think I'm at the point now where I either need to leave or commit to making it work.

Others in my county have been waiting over a year for an EHCP review so I don't think a review will happen any time soon, but anyway I'm not sure what I would change - he already has 121, small class size, low demands and appropriate therapies. I think he just needs time to recover from the trauma tbh, he's only been back at school for one term.

There are no special schools closer than the one he's in and none that we have any reason to believe would be particularly better than the one he's in. He hates the journey, so a school that's further away wouldn't help.

Yes I've seen newbold hope, honestly I can't decide if it's reassuring or depressing that so many people are in the same situation as us.

I think we're receiving all the benefits we're entitled to if we keep working. I do believe we'd be entitled to more if one of us quit, which is why I do keep thinking should I just give up working and commit myself to making things better for DS. I'm not sure if that would happen though, the six months we were both at home full time were not good and he's so clingy it's hard to get anything done

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namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:28

Oh and the comment about LA's obligation to prove alternative provision made me laugh. He was out of school for six months during which I phoned and emailed every single day. They completely ignored me and refused to do a single thing about AP. We eventually used our own money to fund a few half days. I've complained and asked for us to be reimbursed but no response to the complaint yet (raised in September). I've been to the LGO but they won't take the case forward until LA have responded. They've said if they haven't responded at all after 6 months they will think about it. Honestly all the paperwork, administration, appeals, school meetings, appointments is a full time job in itself.

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namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:29

Please don't think I'm ungrateful for the advice, sorry if it sounds that way I am grateful, just a bit jaded by the whole system!

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JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 11:31

I've just taken 6 months leave so I don't see how taking more would help, I think I'm at the point now where I either need to leave or commit to making it work.

Additional leave could help whilst you focus on sorting something else for DS’s education or improving the current situation at school.


Others in my county have been waiting over a year for an EHCP review so I don't think a review will happen any time soon

Annual reviews must happen each year, if they don’t you can force the LA to stick to the statutory timescales. If you request an early review and the LA agree, again, there are statutory timescales that apply that can be enforced if the LA breach.

but anyway I'm not sure what I would change - he already has 121, small class size, low demands and appropriate therapies. I think he just needs time to recover from the trauma tbh, he's only been back at school for one term.

There are plenty of other things that could help - OT, SALT, MH therapies, other therapeutic SEP, EOTAS…

Itsonlyagame · 29/12/2022 11:33

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 08:55

We are starting to think the same. He's a lot calmer without the taxi. Definitely means one of us giving up work though. And I worry that if he then refuses even with us taking him, we have nowhere left to go. Plus we have another child so things get tricky if one of us is ill, has an appointment etc (common with DH who is often ill)

Drastic but I moved house to be closer to DCs school, this has reduced commute from 30 mins each way to 5. Slightly different situation though as there was a relationship breakdown also involved but is this worthy of consideration?

JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 11:35

You could have forced the LA to provide alternative provision under s.19 of the Education Act 1996, and provide anything specified and quantified in section F of the EHCP as per s.42 CAFA 2014, via judicial review if necessary. The LA ignore parents unless they are forced to provide provision. Often the mere threat of JR to the Director of Children’s Services works, if not a pre-action letter often does. Only a minority actually have to go through with a hearing itself. Presumably you didn’t do this?

JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 11:36

If you move and that involves moving LA be warned the new LA will review and potentially reassess, amend or even cease to maintain the EHCP.

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:38

JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 11:35

You could have forced the LA to provide alternative provision under s.19 of the Education Act 1996, and provide anything specified and quantified in section F of the EHCP as per s.42 CAFA 2014, via judicial review if necessary. The LA ignore parents unless they are forced to provide provision. Often the mere threat of JR to the Director of Children’s Services works, if not a pre-action letter often does. Only a minority actually have to go through with a hearing itself. Presumably you didn’t do this?

Yes we did all of this. Six SEN officers assigned to us quit or went off sick with stress during the year we were going through the process. To be honest I'm just grateful we got him into a school in September, that in itself took a full six months of fighting every day.

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namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:40

We have thought about mov

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Hankunamatata · 29/12/2022 11:41

I'd seriously consider moving nearer to the special school.

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:41

We have thought about moving, but his school is in a more expensive area so not possible unless we're both working, we'd have to downsize when our current house is already too small, and we have another child happily settled in school close to where we live

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namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:42

It's also a big risk if this school placement breaks down and I'm not confident it won't, considering we're having trouble getting him in anyway

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JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 11:45

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:38

Yes we did all of this. Six SEN officers assigned to us quit or went off sick with stress during the year we were going through the process. To be honest I'm just grateful we got him into a school in September, that in itself took a full six months of fighting every day.

You had a judicial review hearing but still didn’t secure provision under s.19 of the Education Act 1996 or s.42 of the CAFA 2014? That is very, very strange. SEN officers leaving/being of sick is irrelevant to JR.

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:47

We didn't have a hearing, the letter was enough and we did get him into a special school at that point. It took six months to get there, he started in September

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JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 11:50

You could have forced provision sooner then.

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 11:51

I'm not sure how that's a helpful comment?

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JustKeepBuilding · 29/12/2022 11:56

Knowing the law and how to enforce it is helpful, because back to my original point, if DS can’t attend school full time the LA must provide alternative provision to ensure he receives a suitable full time education and everything specified and quantified in F, so knowing you could have enforced provision sooner in the past will help moving forward because you will know you don’t have to wait months now or in the future.

namechange0998776554799000 · 29/12/2022 12:02

Ok, fair point. My problem with alternative provision is that DS is unlikely to engage with that any more than he will with school - this is what we found with the one we self-funded. Of course if this school placement breaks down we'll have to try again. In any case that would mean one of us giving up work, because there is nothing local to us that is full school hours and will take a 7 year old.

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Neolara · 29/12/2022 12:06

So it sounds like there are a couple of things to think about that might make a difference. 1) The journey to and from school. 2) A proper, robust transition plan to get DC more comfortable and familiar with the school environment (as I described in my earlier post) 3) to work with school to address particular triggers in school (eg keeping him safe from dysregulated peers).

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