To think EE should not show violence against pregnant woman

[Guzy]

For those of you who watch Eastenders, the character Janine is pregnant she is quite mischievous and manipulative. However slapping, pulling hair and choking a pregnant woman just did not sit right with me. Bear in mind all characters involved knew she is pregnant.
Aibu to think EE should not air such disturbing scenes. As I feel it gives a very wrong message. No one deserves physical abuse especially those who are vulnerable. I feel they are normalising it somehow.

someone close to me threatened to kick me in my belly when I was heavily pregnant it just brought back some horrible memories.
FYI I know it’s not real but people are always influenced by what they watch on tv.

Yep the way she’s been written in the last decade or so is a bit off. Something bad happened, let’s make Janine the bad guy. I mean, originally it was supposed to be Suzy Branning who ran Danielle Jones over but the actress quit, so they put Janine behind the wheel instead.

Someone mentioned her hounding of Laura Beale earlier in the thread. It started the other way round, Janine was a sex worker, Ian used her “services” so naturally when Laura found out it was all Janine’s fault. Laura threw a hot drink over her, scalded her, told everybody about Janine’s prostitution, humiliating her, then sabotaged Janine when she was trying to get out of prostitution. Trying to evict a dying Pat Butcher from her house? Would this be the same Pat Butcher who lied and framed Janine for Laura’s murder and saw her go to prison on remand and only relented when Laura’s mother said she wanted to know the truth about how her daughter died. (Letting a grieving woman believe her daughter was murdered when she actually fell down the stairs is sick by anyone’s standards). Then Michael Moon. He was gross. Janine was insecure, believing he only wanted her money. He said otherwise. She had a hellish time having a premature birth, developed PND, fled and when she came back for her baby, he groomed Alice Branning, even convincing her he loved her and taking her virginity, so she would kill Janine for him. Alice ended up confessing to Janine and they confronted him. He tried to kill Janine- by strangling- Alice stabbed him. When he came to and went for Janine again, she stabbed him. Same old story line, she let Alive believe she had killed him (Zoe, Suki anyone?) She went to prison and got separated from her baby anyway. Mick, the baby etc was her moonshot, a fresh start. She went about it all the wrong way- she did go and pick a wasted Linda up, she didn’t deliberately crash the car, but covered it up which is ultimately where she went wrong.

by the by, I have no idea how I even remember all of this 😂😂😂

Absolutely, but I still found that scene disturbing.

As far as Shirley is concerned, Janine was responsible for Mick's death. If I had a son and thought someone had killed him, even indirectly, I'm not sure I'd give a shiny shite about any foetus they might be carrying.

I had a son, he was a sweet boy, and he did die because of somebody else’s negligence. She later had kids of her own. Can’t say I was ever tempted to endanger that her unborn baby (ies) or even the woman herself. I can think of much better ways to honour my son than violence.

Good point about Mick being paired with a toxic character to not garner audience sympathy. The same can be said for Linda and Max with the pregnancy fiasco.

I haven’t liked the Mick character for some time. He has turned manipulative and nasty. I think Linda is much more likeable and empathetic. The affair with Max and turning her back on Mick was incongruous with her character imo but as with soaps, they are sensationalist and exaggerated to the point of lacking realism.

That’s a very good point. If I remember correctly, the whole Linda affair thing- did Mick not convince her that he didn’t love her anymore and didn’t want her and said so at every available opportunity until she turned to Max? So he did the same thing to Janine as he did to Linda but in reverse.

I can’t stand Linda either, but I will concede that she has been steadfast in her love for Mick and has never claimed otherwise. Mick on the other hand has now fallen in love (or so he says and then changes his mind) with two other women, both of whom are damaged and looking for a father figure as well as a partner, both forced into sex work in the past etc. With the second one he went so far as to propose, twice, get her pregnant, declare undying love, repeatedly, marry her… and then changed his mind and said it was all a lie 24 hours later. Emotionally manipulative and abusive much?!?

did Mick not convince her that he didn’t love her anymore and didn’t want her and said so at every available opportunity until she turned to Max?

No. Mick was sexually abused as a child in care and his abuser basically returned to torment him, causing him to have a mental breakdown. He felt too ashamed to tell Linda and basically emotionally withdrew from her so she started the affair. When she found out about the abuse she screamed in horror that she had been shagging Max rather than digging deeper to find out what was wrong with mick and supporting him.

But, misogyny innit and Mick’s the bloke so was always going to be the baddie on MN 😂

So he told her he didn’t love her etc and was downright unpleasant. I just went and looked at a few old clips. He definitely did that. He was also very aware of what was going on with Linda and Max, so was manipulating her. His reasons for doing so aren’t irrelevant but he did do that, he did it on purpose and knowing full well what he was doing. His gender is irrelevant.

she killed Barry

He told her didn’t love her because he felt mentally like he was no good for her any more. He’s always loved her.

You remembered the history better than I did @CC2283

So Mick is dead

I'm not tempted to watch again I don't think, I had a quick look on iPlayer and see that Ricky is back again!

I didn't much like the Linda/Mick pairing. I though they were another Alfie and Kat, destined to be together forever, and always go back to each other, couple. Though Kat is still with Phil now I think, though a recent thread showed Alfie (irritating man) had returned.

My money's on a Harold-Bishop-from-Neighbours style return in a few years for Mick.