To think EE should not show violence against pregnant woman

[Guzy]

For those of you who watch Eastenders, the character Janine is pregnant she is quite mischievous and manipulative. However slapping, pulling hair and choking a pregnant woman just did not sit right with me. Bear in mind all characters involved knew she is pregnant.
Aibu to think EE should not air such disturbing scenes. As I feel it gives a very wrong message. No one deserves physical abuse especially those who are vulnerable. I feel they are normalising it somehow.

someone close to me threatened to kick me in my belly when I was heavily pregnant it just brought back some horrible memories.
FYI I know it’s not real but people are always influenced by what they watch on tv.

But tbh Linda and Mick were rather stupid to follow her. Janine was panicking and in a state and wanting to get away. They chose to follow her by speeding, trying to overtake it was just an accident waiting to happen. Also Linda jumped into the car with Janine. She put her own life at risk. Now blaming Janine will just make them feel better 😂 I mean she didn’t force them to follow that was their decision that they made as adults.

Oh yeah @Guzy. I was very much 'WTF' when they followed her. 'She can't get away with this'. Why? Just let her go. She's left her kid behind. Get her out your lives and be happy!

Never physically hurt anyone??

Barry Evans (1 January 2004) (Murder) – Pushed him off a cliff in Scotland.

Danielle Jones (3 April 2009) (Manslaughter) - Accidentally runs her over.

Michael Moon (1 November 2013) (Murder) - Stabs him to death, After he tries to kidnap their child, Scarlett Moon.

For a start....

Has she been to prison for any of this

My first thought too 😂 Not Kevin!!!!

seriously tho @Guzy not that I watch eastenders etc any more but in the past they’ve always been very careful to show issues like DV in a way that should help women see that what’s happening isn’t right.

it’s not pleasant to see, of course it’s not, but if it helps keep just one woman alive it’s worth it.

Me either!!! Another attention seeking lie!

I for one was like go on Shirley!! She's like 5 minutes pregnant ffs. Mick should have saved Linda and let Janine drown.

Yes please! I'd like to know too.

It's not a storyline about domestic violence ffs, it's a storyline about fucking around and finding out!

bluecheese she got away with Barry’s death, said it was an accident. Can’t remember what happened with Danielle. For Michael she framed his niece but eventually was caught out and in jail briefly but somehow got away with it in the end and was released.

Barry’s death was accidental. She broke up with him and he wouldn’t accept it and kept trying to kiss and hug her and she shoved him away. He fell.

Danielle Jones. An accidental death. Surely you aren’t going to say that was deliberate?!

she stabbed herself and blamed Stacey. Similar circumstance. Stacey and Janine’s husband had had an affair. Janine had been string along and lied to for months before being publicly humiliated- they didn’t even have the decency to tell her about the affair, they announced it by kissing behind the bar in the pub. She also knew that Stacey was guilty of murder but nobody believed her. So she went to a desperate measure to stop Stacey fleeing. Didn’t work.

Michael Moon. Am I the only one who remembers how this went down? This guy actively groomed a teenager to kill Janine. He had sex with her and told her what she wanted to hear all with the aim of having Janine murdered so he could take their baby. The teen, Alice, confessed all to Janine. Michael tried to kill Janine himself and she stabbed him in self defence.

She’s got severe abandonment issues, probably some sort of personality disorder too. Daddy issues. That’s why she went for Mick, who lied and lied to her for months. She went to extremes to protect her happiness- Mick, who reminded her of her dad and the pub, her childhood home where she was happy. It’s interesting that both of Micks “new loves” Whitney and Janine have both been damaged younger women who had issues around men, and sex, who have both been forced into prostitution in their pasts etc.

As for Shirley, she does my head in. Weren’t that long ago she was getting a gun for Phil so he could kill Keanu. Linda? what happens when you grab the wheel of a car on a cliff road when the driver is very, very upset and clearly on edge? Idiot.

She’s got to be at least 18 weeks. She found out in early sept when she would have been at least 6 weeks, that was 3 months ago so around 18 weeks.

Historically women were spared the death sentence or it was delayed if they were found to be pregnant on account of their innocent child. It’s interesting that as we move ‘forwards’ as a society less people think like that and treat the baby as collateral or guilty by association. That’s probably why none of the powers that be seen to have an issue with suicide and murder being rampant In the cause of deaths of pregnant women. It’s normal now.

I don’t remember much of the Michael Moon story tbf just the bit about Alice (who’s not his niece i was getting the Brannings and Moons mixed up).

when Barry fell off the cliff she sat and watched him die instead of calling for help and said horrible things to him.

on classic eastenders, Janine is currently about to be made homeless and having to go on the game. However the reason no one will help her out or let her stay is because she has manipulated them all, stolen from them, and treated them all so badly in the first place that she’s made her bed (or lack of).

Janine is a very interesting and well written character. She’s basically a product of her upbringing. Abandoned, unwanted and left to survive on her own wits. She’s deeply paranoid, looks out for herself and always does the wrong thing (Barry’s death, Linda in the car accident etc) because she’s never had any reason to trust anybody. Ultimately she’s looking to replace the father who was horrible to her but always goes about it the wrong way. Because she is written as an unlikeable character, viewers tend to ignore what a sad situation she’s in and what a horrible life she has had and ultimately, when she’s been treated badly- it’s ok.

Funny CC I was thinking along the same lines as you on this yesterday but I think the issue is they’ve written Janine as such a pantomime villain for so many years and who does such awful things but never redeems herself that you tend to just remember all the bad stuff and none of the background. For example on Classic she has been absolutely awful to people that have tried to help her so they’ve finally run out of patience and you can’t help but think ‘serves her right’.

I was shocked by the strangling too and Linda's 'I don't care' comment. It could be that those are realistic reactions, however hideous they seem, but it was still disturbing to watch.

Yep me to lol

Linda sacrificed everything for that baby. She backed off from Mick and the pub and everything once she knew Janine was pregnant.

She was at the bottom of the sea and told Mick to save Janine for the baby's sake.

And Janine just kept pushing and twisting and manipulating. There's only so much even the most forgiving of women can take.

I am also disturbed by the violence against women, especially pregnant ones.

I don’t understand why some people are saying Janine isn’t pregnant. Mick went to a scan appointment with her. I think the radiographer would have noticed if there were no baby.

There was another appointment after that that she'd attended alone. Sonia sorted it for her. Sonia was going to tell Mick that there was no baby but Janine had some kind of hold over Sonia.

There was also a scene where Janine was googling "what can go wrong with a pregnancy?". My take from that was that she was planning on making up some symptoms.

No she was playing for time after the baby got the all clear as she was afraid Mick was going to leave her so she was going to pretend they still weren’t sure the baby was ok. Sonia cottoned on and made her tell Mick the baby was actually fine. when she found out she was pregnant her first reaction was to get an abortion because she thought Mick wouldn’t want her anymore and she didn’t want to be a single parent. He said otherwise so she kept it.

I am not sure why Mick and Linda are such a popular couple because they are pretty toxic together, both had affairs and then ditched the others when they’ve decided to get back together. Linda ran off to Max pretty fast, was going to run away with him and then ditched him last minute and then didn’t tell Max he’s a father, she lied about it and Mick helped her cover it up. Mick reckoned he was in love with Whitney, and she’s a very damaged former abused child and vulnerable etc, yet ditched her quick enough when Linda came back. Then Janine. Mick has spent a year swearing blind he loved her, he kissed her first, he proposed to her (twice), he was full of plans for the baby and the future etc, treated Scarlet as his own. But he was lying. And Janine knew, deep down, but she wanted to believe him and it was literally driving her to desperation trying to convince herself otherwise and believe what Mick was telling her. Then did a complete u turn admitting he had never lived her and wanted to be with Linda. It’s pretty manipulative and selfish behaviour by Mick whichever way you cut it up. Janine is historically unstable and insecure, desperate to be loved. It’s kind of sick. I reckon they only brought Janine’s character back because of her history she’s an unsympathetic character and all of the above wouldn’t be noticed as being kind of emotionally abusive. Imagine Mick doing all of that to a “nice” character?

Can’t type. Mick did the U turn and admitted he had never loved Janine, 24 hours after marrying her, making a big speech telling her how much he loved her and how she made him feel alive. Gross.

This.