Suicide because of Benefits Being Stopped

[StridTheKiller]

Another casualty of our brutal benefits system. RIP.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/dad-who-took-life-days-28813953

The car isn't free. Many people have to pay deposits which they don't get back. You're only feeding one person. Lilyhop is feeding and housing more including at least one disabled child. Many disabled people find that PIP / DLA doesn't cover their extra costs

I'm feeding and housing four people with my wage, and pay the full cost for my car out of post tax income.

I only have the one disabled child and I have a letter from a consultant stating I am disabled, but I don't claim because, earning £60k, I don't need to and the money is better given to those who need it.

The Car is not free.Motability is a car lease scheme. You pay the mobility part of your PIP to motability and in return you lease a car from them.

I'm not sure how twisting the facts to this degree help if you're trying to have a, sensible discussion really. Of course housing element is a benefit to the claimant - otherwise they would have nowhere to live. Of course it goes to the landlord - they are providing somewhere to live.
Are you suggesting that money spent on food is not a benefit either, because it goes to Tesco?
How silly. There are some good points made on this thread but statements like this just give ammunition to people who (like me) think the benefits system could do with improving but is largely OK.

PIP is not mens tested so your income has no bearing.

@JoyBeorge
"PIP is not mens tested so your income has no bearing."

This is part of the problem. @TreadLight said they don't need the money because they manage on their decent wage, but your attitude is "well, claim it anyway". Have you never heard of personal responsibility? In the very wonderful words of Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park; "... so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”.

I bloody hate this entitlement attitude, and it means there’s less money for those who actually need it, as those who don’t need it get a nice little extra bonus. We tried to do the right thing re CB when our household income passed the threshold for the taper and stopped claiming because we didn’t NEED the money, however, with hindsight, I wish we’d carried on claiming our ENTITLEMENT so we could have give the kids more.

Doesn't PIP help in other ways than just the monetary value? Might that be why people apply if they don't need the money?

I may be talking rubbish as I have no idea. It's from a half remembered old conversation with someone who applied and was awarded a tiny amount of money.

Yes it does. You can depending on the award get things like a blue badge, disabled persons Railcard, travel pass, etc.

Well, you can't have it both ways. If employers should only take 'people who can get on with the job with the minimum of hand holding', then the others need to be given benefits to survive.

Personally, I think that more disabled people could work with relatively minor adjustments, especially in these days of technology; but it's not going to happen if employers are unable or unwilling to make any adjustments. And then the disabled people need to be helped by other means- unless you think disability is a crime to be punished, perhaps with the death penalty,

There used to be sheltered workshops for people with disabilities who could not be easily employed in the open market; but most of these were abolished under the Cameron government.

As I understand, most benefit fraud does not involve faking or exaggerating a disability, but failing to declare income: either claiming unemployment benefit while in fact earning from an undeclared job, or failing to report household income from a partner.