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To wonder how the huge American families can afford it?

104 replies

00100001 · 23/12/2022 11:32

So you have blogging families who have like 9,10,11,12+ kids.

HOW??

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GrouchyKiwi · 23/12/2022 13:15

One of the home edding families I follow in the US has 15 children (half of the children are adopted). Both parents work - the father outside the home, the mother started a very successful business creating home ed resource books.

AFAIK, they have a large homestead-type house, and grow a lot of their own produce, so that helps. They also don't live in one of the big cities, but rather in a farming community.

butterfliedtwo · 23/12/2022 13:17

The family vloggers llikely earn a ton of money in sponsorships and AdSense.

RebeccaCloud9 · 23/12/2022 13:19

If it's specifically the blogging families you're talking about, have you SEEN how much they earn?! Insane amounts of money, so of course they can afford it. Literally thousands per post, they're millionaires.

femfemlicious · 23/12/2022 13:20

They get a lot of food stamps

dreamingbohemian · 23/12/2022 13:22

There are large families in every country so YABU for making this about Americans

MumGoneMild · 23/12/2022 13:27

My brother lives in america and one of the lads at his work has a v famous blogger wife, she earns a shit ton in sponsorship and brand deals. Shes very savvy and the effort she puts in is like a full time job hours.

some brands offer thousands to do a few videos with the products, she does alot of high end clothing and lifestyle stuff then sells the products they gave her after making a bit more on top.

i should imagine there’s even more money in family style bogs, wider audience

Thesinisterdiagram · 23/12/2022 13:31

Higher salaries and housing is generally bigger and cheaper than the UK.

Comedycook · 23/12/2022 13:38

I'm obsessed with American houses...I was watching some old wife swap and super nanny US versions recently. Even couples with average jobs or a sahm had absolutely huge houses with massive kitchens, walk in wardrobes, pools! Houses which only very wealthy people in the UK could afford are just average family homes in the US. I guess the cheaper housing makes a big difference to these familie.

coldfeetmama · 23/12/2022 13:43

I am from Scotland .. went to school with a boy who had 13 siblings

Now a nurse and have worked with a colleague who had 11 kids

Know if a family local to me with 9 boys

It has never occurred to me to wonder how they afford it because I mind my own fucking business

Coucous · 23/12/2022 13:45

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BabyFour2023 · 23/12/2022 13:45

DucklingDaisy · 23/12/2022 12:52

It's a richer country. Their top 25% most affluent have a lot more money than the top 25% here. Also, single income families effectively add their tax allowances together. So you'd get twice as much tax free, hit each band at double the single person income etc.

People do that here too. Marriage allowance.

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The radfords!

GoldenCagedBird · 23/12/2022 13:46

Cantstandbullshit · 23/12/2022 13:14

Thank you mam, and in the spirit of Christmas let’s stop creating foolish threads to bash and make fun of other people.

Just to clarify, you are aware that the poster you went off at was talking specifically about a reality tv family- not ‘all Americans’?

because if not, I certainly hope your comprehension skills aren’t representative of all Americans!

Cuppasoupmonster · 23/12/2022 13:46

Needmorelego · 23/12/2022 11:36

Housing is a lot cheaper outside of the big cities in America.

This. Housing is cheaper. Petrol is much cheaper. It all works itself out.

Comedycook · 23/12/2022 13:47

It has never occurred to me to wonder how they afford it because I mind my own fucking business

Minding your own business is not asking them. It's human nature to wonder about lots of things. My friend is getting her whole house renovated...yes I am wondering how they can afford it...I won't ask. But surely you ask questions in your own head?!

GoldenCagedBird · 23/12/2022 13:48

BabyFour2023 · 23/12/2022 13:45

People do that here too. Marriage allowance.

Marriage allowance isn’t a thing any more.

I’m a SAHM. The only thing I can do is transfer about £1700 of my personal allowance to my husband.

purpledagger · 23/12/2022 13:50

ive fallen down many a rabbit hole on those large, religious families and i've observed:

housing - they live in cheap areas of the country. Anna Duggars brother bought his his for $40,000 according to public records and his MIL said they were debt free. The men start working quite young and are expected to save money before they get married.

food - the families i've seen do eat cheap, processed foods. Jill Rodrigues has posted picture of her meals and based on volume, portions would be tiny for 15 people.

second hand - they buy used and the stuff they buy is used multiple times. Joy anna Duggar was going on a date with her now husband and was searching a mountain of shoes in her house to find a matching pair (she didn't care what ones).

Technology - they don't let their children have phones, limit TV and internet, so they spend very little on technology. they homeschool, so the children don't know any different.

holidays - often spent visiting like minded families and bunking in with those families, or sleeping on their converted coaches.

the families don't have to pay for labour. The Duggars 'surprised' the Bates family by building them an extension and all the boys and girls picked in with the building and decorating (Jill Duggar did the tiling).

Whee · 23/12/2022 13:51

Perhaps like the OP, I have come across US bloggers because they have larger followings so the algorithms take you there. I don't doubt there are families like that in the UK. I'm also more interested in following people whose lives are different from my own - seeing 20 people crammed into a house in Slough or whatever is not as interesting as a family with a homestead. It is abundantly clear that it is a tiny minority of families in the US that live like this. However I do find Utah stats interesting - families are on average much bigger there (presumably due to the large Mormon population). It is interesting, to me anyway, how they afford to support their big family, especially if the mother doesn't work. I suppose I'm a little bit jealous that my husband and I both work 40 hrs a week to raise 2 children! I don't think it's particularly being nosey or anything, it's just curiosity about other people's lives.

cantba · 23/12/2022 13:55

Tax system is much more sympathetic to family life.

IreneGoodnight · 23/12/2022 14:04

In rural areas they might go hunting for food e g.rabbits and deer.

entropynow · 23/12/2022 14:12

Marriage allowance in the UK is worth about £250 a year. Not remotely the same level of money!

Bbq1 · 23/12/2022 14:18

Needmorelego · 23/12/2022 11:36

Housing is a lot cheaper outside of the big cities in America.

Yep, very true. For an average family house over here, you'd get one twice the size in us.

Phos · 23/12/2022 14:21

Whoring out their kids and sharing every minutiae of their lives on various social media platforms for people as vacuous as they are to enjoy.

Bit like Ladbaby here but with a load more sprogs.

PixellatedPixie · 23/12/2022 14:26

SaturdayGiraffe · 23/12/2022 13:04

From 2016: It Is Still True That Even Mississippi Is Richer Than Britain

www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/03/07/still-true-even-mississippi-is-richer-than-britain/?sh=29a3e996654f

I can't imagine post-brexit it's improved.

But the UK is the 5th biggest economy in the world so all that headline shows is that the USA and even states like Mississippi are massively wealthy.