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To just want DP to put stuff away?

69 replies

Monkeytrousers04 · 13/12/2022 19:02

He never puts anything away. Ever. Everywhere he goes he leaves a little trail of clues as to what he’s been doing.

Making coffee - empty coffee bag on the side, coffee grounds split all over the work surface, milk left out of the fridge, cupboard door open from where he got his mug out. If he had to top up the sugar bowl then he’ll leave the cupboard open where the sugar packet is from, will then leave the sugar packet out, sugar split everywhere… it is never ending.

He says he doesn’t see it but will often moan at the kids for leaving their shoes in the middle of the floor (he leaves his immediately behind our front door so that if someone knocks and I don’t seen them (dark shoes/ dark floor), I can’t open the door! I once came back from the shops, opened the front door, started walking into the house with bags of food in each hand, only for the door to bounce off a pair of boots he’d left behind it and it smacked me in the mouth! Split lip, blood everywhere.

Laundry - he leaves dirty clothes on the floor, but also clean clothes and only he knows the difference. Eventually, when he’s run out of pants, he scoops it all up and plonks it in the washing basket. Correction, he might place it on top of the basket or next to it on the floor, as you know how heavy washing basket lids can be.

Since the DCs came along I have lowered my standards so much, just to avoid my own brain imploding from the stress it causes me, but I don’t feel like I can lower them any longer. It’s been over 13 years now and I’ve just had enough.

He moved into my house when we first got together and I ended up giving him the spare room for his stuff as I just couldn’t tolerate the mess. I would open the door every so often and it was like a teenager’s bedroom. He told me that when we had our own house together he would make more of an effort.

That was a lie.

Sometimes I can laugh it off, like now - this is intended as a light-hearted moan more than anything. But sometimes it really gets me down - like how can he care about me one bit if he can’t tidy up after himself (that’s all I’m after) to make me happy? I think about all the changes I’ve made over the years to accommodate his likes & dislikes, but he can’t do this for me?!

It makes it really hard to manage the DC’s mess too - my eldest DD has adopted nearly all his messy traits and I’m so sad. She’ll kick her shoes off when she comes in, drop her coat on the floor, etc. I’ll ask her to pick it up and she’ll say “Daddy doesn’t”. I mean, what can I say to that?!

Please tell me I’m not alone, and if I’m not then what can I do?! How do you cope?!

OP posts:
endofthelinefinally · 13/12/2022 19:05

I couldn't live with someone as selfish as that. I guess you have accepted it now though. He will never change.

VisitingThem · 13/12/2022 19:09

It's just utterly selfish, he doesn't think its his job to tidy up after himself. It's your job.

OutDamnedSpot · 13/12/2022 19:09

I wouldn’t be able to cope with that. I don’t know how you change it now though, after so long.

What do you do with the trail of destruction? Leave it for him to sort, or tidy up after him?

garlicandsapphires · 13/12/2022 19:10

I left my otherwise lovely ex for this reason.

Sparklfairy · 13/12/2022 19:11

I do this, and I live alone and it pisses me off and I'm not doing it to be "selfish". I have adhd and its a huge effort not to leave a trail of destruction behind me.

Justcallmebebes · 13/12/2022 19:16

I couldn't live like this. It's just showing you utter contempt

FOJN · 13/12/2022 19:16

So many things in your post suggest he can see the mess he makes but he thinks you're his servant so why would he clean up?

Your post is supposedly light-hearted but your daughter is now copying your husband's lazy, selfish behaviour and you don't think you can do anything about it.

I'd be bloody furious about being treated like the family skivvy. It's time to stop doing things for them which make their lives easier and more comfortable.

DilemmaDelilah · 13/12/2022 19:17

That would drive me mad...HOWEVER...the trick is not only to get them to put their stuff away, it is to get them to put their stuff away IN THE RIGHT PLACE! My OH isn't too bad tidy-wise, but that is because he will stuff things wherever he can find space. If I open a certain drawer in my sitting room I know I am going to find a load of papers he didn't know (and couldn't be bothered to think about) what to do with. These will include advertising and empty envelopes. And a rubber band. And a single safety pin. And an empty box that used to contain a USB plug. And the scissors that have a perfectly good home in a specific place that is NOT that drawer. And a selection of pens, some of which may work and which also have a home which is NOT that drawer, and most of which don't work. Need I go on?

tasmaniandevilchaser · 13/12/2022 19:17

I feel your pain, my DH is the same. Maybe not quite as bad, he doesn't have a spare room of crap. I do just tidy up when I have the energy but now with DC, it's never ending.... To be fair he does clear up after dinner.

I'm probably a bit messy myself but it would be really really nice not to tidy up after him. I hadn't thought of leaving him over it!! He's not going to change so I just try and appreciate his good qualities. Sorry that's probably not very helpful....

catinboots123 · 13/12/2022 19:19

He has no respect for you

gjkufbb · 13/12/2022 19:20

I feel your pain. My dh has a habit of leaving things out of the fridge like milk, or leaving packets open for things to go stale. It drives me fucking mental and I've lost my shit at him multiple times.

He just laughs it off! Men are a different breed I swear. I don't blame you for being fed up!

sweeneytoddsrazor · 13/12/2022 19:23

My DH has a dreadful habit of disrobing when he comes home. Closes door , drops keys on floor walks along taking shoes off, then tie then jacket, then trousers. Then goes to get his joggers from the bedroom and takes them in the bathroom because he always needs the toilet when he comes home. I have occasionally tripped over said shoes and flipped but the best time was when he accidentally kicked his shoe off and into the litter tray without realising. Went to put it on next morning only to discover the cat had shit in it. 😂

NoSquirrels · 13/12/2022 19:23

Either he has ADHD or another issue that causes him to be messy, and hasn’t sought help or developed strategies to overcome it because he doesn’t care how it affects you, or he just doesn’t care about this affects you.

It’s the same thing in the end.

Have you sent him the ‘She divorced me because I left glasses by the sink’ article yet?

Or tried telling him that every time he leaves something out, messy or unfinished it’s like he’s saying out loud, ‘Fuck you, Monkeytrousers. You can put my shit away.’

Monkeytrousers04 · 13/12/2022 19:23

tasmaniandevilchaser · 13/12/2022 19:17

I feel your pain, my DH is the same. Maybe not quite as bad, he doesn't have a spare room of crap. I do just tidy up when I have the energy but now with DC, it's never ending.... To be fair he does clear up after dinner.

I'm probably a bit messy myself but it would be really really nice not to tidy up after him. I hadn't thought of leaving him over it!! He's not going to change so I just try and appreciate his good qualities. Sorry that's probably not very helpful....

He doesn’t have a spare room now. It was when he moved into my house before we moved to the home we share now. I thought, it was because he wasn’t properly unpacking as we were moving in to our own house together.

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IToldYouAmillionTimesAlready · 13/12/2022 19:29

He's selfish, and a slob. I've been married 42 years and for the first few years, my husband was the same. If he did a job in the house, he'd leave the screwdriver/hammer/ladder/paint pot etc. in the kitchen. I used to get all his stuff together, in a carrier bag, and put it out (even in the rain). His clothes on the floor went in the bloody dustbin. That cured him.

JennyForeigner · 13/12/2022 19:34

Yeah, my husband does this. Drives me mad. It's an arms race between me endlessly buying new/bigger storage options/ developing new systems for where stuff should be/ throwing away endless shit that he doesn't miss and just letting the house silt up until we start making tunnels and end by all crawling out on to the roof tiles.

It's the shopping that gets me. We have a fridge and many many kitchen drawers and many many kitchen cupboards, all stuffed with space maximising buy-ins. So why does anything he buys automatically have to live on the worktops in perpetuity? Why doesn't he just put it IN ONE OF THEM.

Monkeytrousers04 · 13/12/2022 19:36

Sometimes I tidy up after him, like if people are coming round, other times I leave it as long as I can tolerate it and may point stuff out to him. I’m trying really hard now that DD is following in his footsteps to try and let them feel the consequences of their “messy ways” such as when they can’t find things, etc. but ultimately I end up helping them look for the thing that they’ve lost so I may as well have put it away before it got lost.

I do not know how our relationship has lasted so long. DD arrived three years into it so that’s probably why… plus he used to work in an office full time and I worked three days - so it didn’t seem to bother me so much. Then with lockdown we were both home 24/7 (I was on mat leave at the time) but because no one was coming round, I found a way to deal with it.

Now things are back to normal, I’m out of the house 1-2 days a week & 2 evenings a week but he now WFH full time. I leave the house reasonably tidy but come back to a mess! Even tonight, I popped down to get DS from nursery and was away for about 10 mins - on my return, every surface in the kitchen was covered in something. I had to tidy up some of it in order to cook tea.

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Badger1970 · 13/12/2022 19:44

DH is a muddler, and his stuff gets binned. I don't care what it is or what it cost - if it gets in my way or trips me up, it's gone.

I have a zero tolerance policy of shit left lying around. He's slowly learning, taken 30 years so far....... Hmm

Cosycover · 13/12/2022 19:47

Will never understand why men behave like children and still expect us to have sex with them.

Merlott · 13/12/2022 19:50

You had to tidy the kitchen that he made a mess of?

Why?

Where was he? What did you say to him about it?

Did you say "come into the kitchen, look at it, it was clean this morning and you've made it a mess, you have 10 minutes to clear it up right now" walk away and close the door ? When he comes out and says he's done it but he hasn't, not properly, did you say "get back in there and finish the job" ?

No? Why not? Does he shout, sulk, threaten ? Are you afraid of him?

SpotlessMind88 · 13/12/2022 20:04

garlicandsapphires · 13/12/2022 19:10

I left my otherwise lovely ex for this reason.

This is what I'm planning to do. i'm Currently saving, trying to plan my exit.
It's just plain selfish and lazy. My partner comes in and his coat gets thrown on the floor (not hung up). He can't manage to put his shoes on the shoe rack, they get left near the shoe rack. He doesn't wash up or hoover. He used to come in and put his dirty work clothes into the washing machine and when they were done leave them in there to grow mould (then complain about the smell). Now he doesn't even bother to get changed out of his dirty work clothes (he works in construction), he contines to wear them around the house and sometimes sleeps in them when he can't be bothered to take them off. FYI he sleeps on the sofa and the reason he gives me for his laziness is "my job is so hard". Really its because his stoned to bits from his addiction to weed and can't peel himself off of the sofa even to take off his dirty clothes or to shower.
i'm leaving as soon as i have the means to, you partner doesn't sound as bad, but i'd consider leaving if he doesn't try and change if i was you.

Purplechicken207 · 13/12/2022 20:13

Its selfish and disrespectful, as well as creating a terrible example. Start giving ultimatums. Either tidy up your things or ill start putting them in the garden/your car. You've left the kitchen in a mess. I'm not cooking anything or doing the shopping until you've tidied it.
Mines not perfect by any stretch but he'd never dream of being so disrespectful and selfish. When in a relationship, especially living together, you compromise. For example you've lowered your standards, and at the very very least he should be picking up after himself. If he can't compromise in this, maybe it's time for couple counselling to show him how important it is, or the ultimate - start respecting me or we go our separate ways. You deserve more than his endless not giving a shit about you/the house and things you share

Fishwifer · 13/12/2022 20:15

OP, why have you accepted this for so long?

you need teenager methods to deal with this; you've expected him to step up and be an adult; he isn't.

What's stopping you getting a roll of black bags and just shoving it all in there? 30 second cleanup of a room, in it all goes. shove it on a porch in the rain or snow, whatever - enough's enough.

what will it take to make you see that this isn't about him having lower standards, or ADHD or a million and 1 other excuses, he just doesn't care enough about you to tidy up after himself?

how much longer are you going to live like this?

Herejustforthisone · 13/12/2022 20:16

This is one of the most pathetic and selfish things I’ve read for a while. You poor thing. I couldn’t cope with that level of inadequacy.

ASDADHDBAME · 13/12/2022 20:21

My DH came from a messy home and when we started living together age 20 I think he thought I would sort everything out. Nope. If he left stuff on the floor/in the wrong place I specifically threw stuff out/put it on his side of the bed/somewhere it would be a nuisance for him and told him about his business. Took about a month or so for him to realise he would be doing equal to me and now 13 years on we still have very equal roles in the home re cleaning/chores/maintenance tasks. You need to be firmer and not let it slide. Make it a nuisance for him.

I had a friend who one day snapped after baby no 2, she had done everything up until then and was burnt out. She just stopped doing anything for him.Food, washing, tidying etc. He soon learnt