To think this isn't an acceptable way to talk about a child with sen?

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this was written by my sons class teacher for his ehcp annual review- ds is 9 and has adhd combined type and autism.

"Social/emotional/behavioural Development-

Behaviour during lessons - complete refusal if he does not want to be involved, this can lead to him exiting, singing over the top of the adults, starting a very different activity of his own choosing Etc.
He will get up and walk in front of an adult making an input- he has no care for the learning of others. Often, he will decide whether he believes a lesson is worth his time based on the initial input, if not then he leaves. Unless it is Art or something based around line drawing, in which case he is all in. If it is a lesson that he believes is "worth it' then he will focus and engage for a period and contribute but at the expense of others. He has a very inflated sense of worth. "

to me this reads like he's choosing to have the difficulties he does and that he basically just thinks he's better than everyone and above school work, and like she is making completely unfounded assumptions about his motivations. Baring in mind the opinion of professionals that have assessed him is that he has very low self esteem which is a large part of his struggles with engaging. He also cries about school almost every single night because he can't cope with the environment at all and it and it makes him feel stupid. I've asked him why he doesn't go in the class much and his answer was "nerves kick in and I can't" So to see him being described as having an inflated sense of worth is very upsetting that they can misunderstand him so much.

I dont think it will because it implies the child is chosing the behaviour. It also doesnt really illustrate that any support strategies are in place and they arent working so the la would push back at the school to try a few things first. Although there may have been much more in the review about this to be fair.

It gives good evidence that the current set up isnt working. But it doesnt say things like 'despite x x and x in place, child is still unable to access the learning and then become disruptive by singing etc. It really is a stich in time to save nine situation with annual reviews. get this right and funding or a new placement come sooner.

@Pumperthepumper I know because I volunteer in the classroom to listen to the kids read x2 a week. I see all of their reading records.

You wrote this on a different thread. So, you are either lying now about being a teacher, or you were lying about being a volunteer. I can guess which.

No. That’s a reply to me, not my post. That’s why I’m tagged in it.

You’re behaving very oddly here. Why is the idea that teachers shouldn’t slag off their pupils such a bizarre concept to you?

Evidence.

You’re behaving very oddly here. Why is the idea that teachers shouldn’t slag off their pupils such a bizarre concept to you?

I'm wondering the same thing.

Eek.

There's a way to say things

"He has no care for the learning of others" = "his difficulties contribute towards a lack of understanding of the impact on the rest of the class" Etc.

I'd be complaining. The child could easily read that.

I’m wondering if I’ll get an apology from @Bewitched005 ? Won’t hold my breath though.

Teachers dont get special training in sen. She has a class of children to teach and you think its ok for your child to disrupt the whole class?

What an utter disgrace, they wouldn't enjoy parents' evening with me if they talked about my child like that! Written in the style of someone who is truly ignorant to SEN.

i don't think that it's ok for him to disrupt the whole class- where have I said that???
I don't think anything about the situation is ok hence why I'm tryin to get him into a special school.
But it's also not ok to be spiteful and judgemental towards a 9 year old with sen.

There is plenty of CPD, and those of us working in education should make it our responsibility. The way the OP's child is talked about is disgraceful, too many children with SEN are labelled as the naughty child in class, and this teacher is doing nothing to combat that.

I have no experience in this area but I can understand why you feel unhappy reading that report. Can you speak to the Senco about it maybe? You’re obviously concerned about your son being in this environment where it sounds like the teacher is irritated by him rather than understanding. I hope he gets the help he needs and deserves.

Children can have sen and still be naughty or badly behaved, its not mutually exclusive. She is giving a factual account of how he behaves in school, regardless of why

How is ‘he has a very inflated sense of worth’ a factual statement?

Well actually the why is incredibly important and to say otherwise is beyond ignorant.

Do we know the OP's child is definitely naughty? My undiagnosed (at the time) autism led to me getting into trouble all the time for being naughty, it took some time to get over it and realise I wasn't the horrible child I was made out to be, but that no-one addressed my needs.
Some of the language the teacher has used is unacceptable.

That’s no way to talk about any child, regardless of SEN. My son has had an EHCP/statement for 20 years and can be very challenging and I’ve never seen anything bad written about him.

My school reports weren't always complimentary but that was another era

My child also has an EHCP and struggles so much to cope with the distracting behaviour of other EHCP students whose difficulties make their behaviour challenging. My poor EHCP DC is overwhelmed by what he perceives to be the rudeness and defiance of the EHCP students in his class who have complex ADHD ASD needs - and, tbh, I wish the parents of these other EHCP ADHD ASD ODD children would just remove them so my EHCP ADHD ASD DS could concentrate. The last thing I’d want is for the teachers struggling with all these complex needs to have to worry about semantics on top of trying to keep children in the classroom, cater for the varied, complex, individual needs in a class of 30, maintain order, remember the many different strategies necessary for each student, remember which students were on the ASD pathway, the ECHP pathway, the ODD diagnosis pathway, the anxious, the refusers... There; I’ve said it. Flame me, but managing all these labels and the strategies is getting unmanageable, and teachers can’t win.

reads like he's choosing to have the difficulties he does

It doesn't read like that to me.
I think you're attaching moral value to what teacher wrote.
I read it as factual about the lad's presentation and engagement (or not) with activities in the classroom.

It is unmanageable, but that’s not the fault of the kid. Remember: people don’t have the time, space, ability or money to home educate. Many will have complex SEN needs themselves.

Teachers writing offensive nonsense about a kid in their class will not change anything. That’s not winning.

Remove him to where? I can't home educate him, I'm a single parent , I have other dc, we live in a small flat which is difficult enough without him being cooped up 24/7 and socially isolated and I can't afford it.
if an appropriate provision comes up I will send him there in a heartbeat.
maybe instead of wishing the parents would take them out (blaming the parents) you should wish the government would properly fund sen provisions.
he was only diagnosed with ADHD a few months ago, despite being referred as soon as he was old enough to be referred- there's a high chance that adhd meds will help him hugely but the waiting list for that is 6-10 months. He's been denied the medical help he needs his entire school life "luckily" he received his autism diagnosis years ago- which has helped somewhat with EHCP. But that's still not good enough

FWIW my other dc (who is very sensory sensitive and easily overwhelmed but wouldn't dream of showing that at school) has a child in his class who has some very difficult behaviours- I've never once thought ill of the mum or the child because I know she is probably doing her best and waiting years on waiting lists etc.

An inflated sense of worth?!!! How rude. Up until that point it was a fairly typical list of facts.

@Pumperthepumper , I did care about my own kids but that does not give them the right to disrupt others learning. I was a teacher for 30 years as well as being a parent. I don't blame the system I blame myself. My eldest son did not do well in school because I refused to have him on Ritaline until he was 11. If I had agreed on the medication at 8 when he was offered it I often wonder what he could have achieved academically. Then I saw how much better his concentration and behaviour was and he could learn and then enjoyed learning. I should have agreed sooner. So I blame myself. My younger son was medicated from 7 and did well at GCSE and A levels. Did not want to go to uni but could have as 3 X C grades at A level. Eldest son turned out fine too. He is a class 1 lorry driver, has a lovely gf and buying his own home. He is very happy. Younger son has a job he enjoys too and almost has his deposit saved. He will be buying a house in March 2023. Unlike the OP who is taken out of lessons for 90 percent of time my son's remained in the lesson as school policy at the time. Until OP stayed her son was put lesson 90 percent of time I had visions of him singing every time an adult spoke. Obviously now I know that is not the case.

You should blame the system. Although your own attitude to SEN is also hideous.