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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

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Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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healthadvice123 · 13/12/2022 21:01

I don't think they said senior though at all , thats the thing isn't it people remember different things or recollections may vary

CathyorClaire · 13/12/2022 21:02

Im pretty certain the palace must have covered up a fair few of Harry’s faux pas too

Absolutely.

The withdrawal of access to top of the range PR whisperers is part of the reason he's deep in the doo now.

The public were sold a pup.

CathyorClaire · 13/12/2022 21:05

even in the photo he doesn't seem overly aware where his hand is as such

Hello, Mike Tindall.

HerRoyalGoddess · 13/12/2022 21:06

Pegging and his affair with Rose

Plunger · 13/12/2022 21:07

Stir the hornet's best Harry and more info covered up will come up to bite you

JudgeJ · 13/12/2022 21:11

PinkParfait · 13/12/2022 17:51

I don't doubt that Harry and Meghan have dirt on the RF, but I reckon the RF have just as much dirt on H&M too, so I doubt Harry will drop any affair bombshells. They'll be very vague and avoid mentioning any names, as they always do, to maximise discussion.

And looking at the length of this thread, they've succeeded ! It's easy to make vague, unsubstantiated allegations, they can't be more specific because other families will probably not keep as quiet of the RF.

ganachee · 13/12/2022 21:17

Journalist Ian Dunt in the Independent four days ago articulated better than I could how I feel about it all overall.

”Isle of Wight MP Bob Seely said he’d introduce a private members bill to remove their royal status. Private members bills never go anywhere, of course. Without government support, they die on their arse, being debated in an empty Chamber on a Friday while MPs are in their constituency dealing with casework. But actual demonstrable change is never the purpose of culture war conflagrations. The purpose is to enhance the career of participants by virtuoso performances of empty moral outrage.

There’s quite a motley collection of cynics and dimwits up against the couple, and behind it all an unmistakable whiff of class condescension, hatred of youth, anti-American snobbery and outright racism. So the tendency on some parts of the liberal left has been to close ranks and treat them like heroes of social justice.

That is equally absurd, because what they are saying does not make the slightest bit of sense. It simply can’t be taken seriously, no matter how sympathetic you might try to be towards them. Meghan claims she “thought it was a joke” when told she would have to curtsy to the Queen. She then goes on to generically mock the whole procedure. “Pleasure to meet you, your majesty… was that okay?”

Is it really that surprising to learn that you have to curtsy the Queen? Exactly what kind of situation did she think she was entering into when she decided to marry a prince? A merry two-up-two-down in Wiltshire where they went out for a slap-up meal on Sundays?

Later she suggests that the fact she was a “hugger” was “jarring for a lot of Brits”. But it isn’t though, is it? Brits hug all the time. It’s probably just really not the done thing for the royal family, given that they mostly look as if they’ve been trained into never experiencing human emotions.

The clue really is in the name. This is probably the strangest family on the face of the earth. Entry gives you money beyond all rational calculation and fame beyond any conceivable limit. And it also brings with it a near-total rejection of the self and an invitation for the most obscene press intrusion into your life.

That’s a shit deal. I wouldn’t take it. But it is a deal which is really very obvious from the start. To pretend otherwise is extremely disingenuous and a bar on being able to take any of their other utterances seriously.

It’s all really very tiresome. It’s not hateful or obscene. There is no sensible basis to despise them. But it is profoundly boring.

It would be absurd to hope that this series might be the end of it. There’s too much of an industry around their little mini culture war battle now, both for the couple themselves and those who oppose them. But by God it should be. There’s nothing else to be extracted from this sad little story. Let them enjoy their sun-kissed life in California. Leave the Royal Family to their consensual form of withered emotional suffocation. Just let the whole thing die.”

Coxspurplepippin · 13/12/2022 21:23

'Leave the Royal Family to their consensual form of withered emotional suffocation. Just let the whole thing die.” '

What an incredibly nasty comment.

Gingerkittykat · 13/12/2022 21:26

William was at the same colonial and natives part where Harry dressed as a Nazi. His costume was distasteful, a black leotard with leopard skinned skirt but obviously not as bad as Harry. Things like that barely raised a mention in the media while Harry was splashed over every front page. I do think a lot of his bad behaviour has been ignored by the press.

TheKeatingFive · 13/12/2022 21:35

That’s a shit deal. I wouldn’t take it. But it is a deal which is really very obvious from the start. To pretend otherwise is extremely disingenuous and a bar on being able to take any of their other utterances seriously.

The issue with this statement is that someone had to 'take the deal' for Harry to settle down, build a life with someone, have kids. Chelsea and Cressida said no.

If the deal is that bad, I don't think it's reasonable to expect someone to put up and shut up. The 'Meghan' moment was always going to happen eventually.

BiscuitLover3678 · 13/12/2022 21:36

Affairs.

the number of times twitter journalists have posted something and then it’s been removed…

MarshaMelrose · 13/12/2022 21:45

BiscuitLover3678 · 13/12/2022 21:36

Affairs.

the number of times twitter journalists have posted something and then it’s been removed…

...because it's not true maybe??

BiscuitLover3678 · 13/12/2022 21:47

When you go to Europe you get a lot more info about what they’re really up.

Alighttouchonthetiller · 13/12/2022 21:47

‘She's also credited with stealth photography of George although the ultimate nefarious plan for the shots has never been disclosed.’

Er......I don’t know if you are aware, but it seems Netflix will pay pretty good rates for access to Markle’s camera roll. I also heard she was allegedly discovered taking pictures in Kensington Palace when she first went round. It might not be true, but seems to be in character. She live streamed Harry proposing. I can only imagine the footage if she’d managed to barge her way into Balmoral when the Queen was dying.

Coxspurplepippin · 13/12/2022 21:56

BiscuitLover3678 · 13/12/2022 21:47

When you go to Europe you get a lot more info about what they’re really up.

It's astounding how many people know the 'real truth' about this stuff yet there is actually no proof at all, just rumours and mud slinging. The UK press have published plenty of derogatory stories about the royal family over the years - do you honestly think if they had the proof they wouldn't publish?

Bluekerfuffle · 13/12/2022 21:56

MarshaMelrose · 13/12/2022 21:45

...because it's not true maybe??

@MarshaMelrose , exactly!

LadySpencer123 · 13/12/2022 22:01

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Gingerkittykat · 13/12/2022 21:26

William was at the same colonial and natives part where Harry dressed as a Nazi. His costume was distasteful, a black leotard with leopard skinned skirt but obviously not as bad as Harry. Things like that barely raised a mention in the media while Harry was splashed over every front page. I do think a lot of his bad behaviour has been ignored by the press.

It was a very weird theme for a party. Natives and colonials? How can that not be offensive in itself? Who does that?

How far out of touch are these people?

Canthave2manycats · 13/12/2022 22:13

EdgeOfACoin · 12/12/2022 20:07

Pippa named her daughter Rose, and Pippa appears to be close to the Princess of Wales.

It would be a strange choice of name if William was indeed cheating on his wife with a woman named Rose.

I'm inclined to believe it is to do with the bridesmaids' tights. It isn't a particularly edifying story, regardless of who made whom cry. I think Meghan was unrealistic to think that the Royal Family would order the press to issue a 'correction' over such a silly story.

But then, maybe there is something more interesting behind the headline.

That's what I think too. I don't believe Prince William had an affair. I think this is just another of H&M's vague insinuations to smear the reputation of members of the Royal Family.

I think the pair of them are utterly despicable.

Morestrangethings · 13/12/2022 22:15

OP, you're assuming, of course, that there WAS a lie told to protect PW. We only have Harry saying that there was.

Did Harry actually say a lie was told to protect William? Or is that still conjecture?

PicturesOfDogs · 13/12/2022 22:18

Morestrangethings · 13/12/2022 22:15

OP, you're assuming, of course, that there WAS a lie told to protect PW. We only have Harry saying that there was.

Did Harry actually say a lie was told to protect William? Or is that still conjecture?

Yes, he said it in the trailer for the second set of episodes. You can have a look on your platform of choice (NF, YT, Twitter) to see it

AutumnCrow · 13/12/2022 22:23

I suppose the personal protection officers (PPOs) must know a lot.

TheCraicDealer · 13/12/2022 22:31

It won’t be anything as juicy as an affair. If he does cite non-Meghan instances it’ll be the drugs/booze in the basement of Highgrove, William’s terribly ill judged 21st birthday party theme or landing his helicopter in Kate’s Ma and DA’s garden. Shit that happened twenty years ago and people, ultimately, won’t get too excited about. If no-one’s reporting on the affair allegations it’s because they’re not true or there’s an injunction in place, both of which are hardly likely to encourage Netflix to publicise them.

I think Harry forgets that for years upon years he got very good press in the round. He was generally considered to be the most popular member of the RF after the Queen, the cool brother with the better hairline compared to the dull William. Even the negative stories that did come out made him appear “normal” and human, someone people could relate to. The British tabloids agreed to stay silent to allow him do two tours of Afghanistan and he was lauded when it did come out. His charity work was celebrated and well promoted. For every story about William that was buried you can bet the same was done for Harry- not just the balcony photos, there are rumours online about what he got up to which are about as well substantiated as the prince of pegging ones. He seems to have accepted this symbiotic relationship with the media and, on balance, benefitted from it until recently. Seems somewhat hypocritical to take issue with it now.

Ramdogs · 13/12/2022 22:31

@CathyorClaire What happened with the George photos? I missed that.

ganachee · 13/12/2022 22:32

TheKeatingFive · 13/12/2022 21:35

That’s a shit deal. I wouldn’t take it. But it is a deal which is really very obvious from the start. To pretend otherwise is extremely disingenuous and a bar on being able to take any of their other utterances seriously.

The issue with this statement is that someone had to 'take the deal' for Harry to settle down, build a life with someone, have kids. Chelsea and Cressida said no.

If the deal is that bad, I don't think it's reasonable to expect someone to put up and shut up. The 'Meghan' moment was always going to happen eventually.

I don’t blame him and Meghan for leaving, but why detonate a bomb in their wake. As the journalist says some of their utterances seem disingenuous - and also in my view they have said too many things that don’t add up.