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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

854 replies

Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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EveryoneIsIll · 13/12/2022 08:55

I think the Royals should go on strike

diddl · 13/12/2022 08:56

What lies were printed if it's about RH though?

Was it ever printed that he's not having an affair?

iyswim.

I wonder if it's more about stuff that is known but not printed.

vera99 · 13/12/2022 08:56

EveryoneIsIll · 13/12/2022 08:55

I think the Royals should go on strike

stuntbubbles · 13/12/2022 08:59

I honestly don’t think it’s about the lie(s) to protect Will – which will be boring; I don’t think even Harry is silly enough to sell his brother up the river by exposing anything major – it’s about “not telling the truth to protect [him]”, I.e. not correcting things that are out there about Harry that have no basis.

So the question is really: what stories about Harry stand that should be corrected?

Homeworkandholidays · 13/12/2022 09:00

he should never have had to go through any of that.
William went through the same, and doesn't feel the need to keep whingeing about it to the world.

Maybe William consoles himself with the fact he's going to be given untold palaces jewels and fortunes and everyone will have to bow to him when he's King Grin Tbh I'd be a bit pissed off about having to bow to a sibling or BIL.

FlamingWreath · 13/12/2022 09:00

Don’t the press print lies about people all the time. Including the royal family?

Janieread · 13/12/2022 09:06

FlamingWreath · 13/12/2022 09:00

Don’t the press print lies about people all the time. Including the royal family?

No.

FlamingWreath · 13/12/2022 09:10

@Janieread really? The press don’t print lies? Literally news to me.

Janieread · 13/12/2022 09:13

FlamingWreath · 13/12/2022 09:10

@Janieread really? The press don’t print lies? Literally news to me.

"Don’t the press print lies about people all the time. Including the royal family?"

No.

The press doesn't "print lies all the time".

BarrelOfOtters · 13/12/2022 09:13

Janieread · 13/12/2022 09:06

No.

Yes they do. It happened to me. a photo I’d taken was printed In all the national papers a few years ago. And in the Sun was a whole paragraph directly quoting what I had said about the photo and how I’d felt about taking it. All completely made up. The only thing I’d said to them was . Yes you can use photo but please credit me.

Judgyjudgy · 13/12/2022 09:16

I found it disturbing that some of M co-stars were offered money to say they had slept her, and her father for posing for pictures. I guess all that proves now more than ever you can't anything you read.

Novella4 · 13/12/2022 09:20

The question you all should be asking is what the media DONT print and why

FlamingWreath · 13/12/2022 09:26

True, what the press don’t tell you is far more interesting.
But they do make up a lot, not to mention embellishing a non stories to spin them a certain way. ‘Sources’ aren’t named - and that covers a heck of a lot.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 13/12/2022 09:34

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 04:35

Straight Outta Compton was a 2015 documentary about the rap group NWA (I assume you don’t need an explanation of what the initials stand for?). The headline was a pastiche of the documentary title. If you didn’t know it was saying she was Black, you were one of very few people who didn’t realise that fact.

Of course, that’s why headlines like that are called micro aggressions - the newspaper can pretend they didn’t mean anything by it and the tiny number of people who genuinely don’t see the racism due to being blinkered about anything other than their narrow cultural environment give them plausible deniability.

It's craven cowardice, and it's sickening. And even those who never in their lives heard of NWA can't possibly mistake the gangland references unless they're being deliberately disingenuous. There's a particular culture associated with those; and the transatlantic barrier doesn't cut it either, because it's just as true of British culture as it is in the US.

The media are not only despicable, they're also coy about their ill-disguised racism. You've only got to look at the disgusting coverage - and the comments they've whipped up - in defence of the indefensible (AKA Susan Hussey and her very obvious racial profiling).

You know the short: injured innocence 'but I don't understaaaaaand', or 'she didn't mean it' (who cares what she meant?) type of comments not infrequently seen on MN. An innocent if ill-judged question and racial profiling are two very different things, and no one who isn't being wilfully obtuse can fail to spot the difference.

But it's the bad black woman who's at fault for daring to speak about it in public. That rhetoric sounds pretty familiar, as Markle is also discovering. And few people can bear to admit that some of her complaints might, just might, be legitimate. Where on earth would that leave us and our gilt-plated idols?

CrownTheTurkey · 13/12/2022 09:37

The thing is, no one would care if William dressed in a pink tutu and took it up the arse from a bloke from Hull.
If he did have an affair, no one would care about that either.
Like father, like son.
Everyone was up in arms about Charlie knocking Camilla off, but that soon became tomorrow's chip wrapping.
Harry should be delighted to be a spare rather than heir because being the spare frees him from all the pomp, ceremony and pressures of being the heir while enjoying the wealth and privileges.
I can't see what he has to moan about.
Look at Princess Margaret, she lived the life of Riley while her sister had a life of being told what to do, where and when.
At least Harry got to marry who he wanted unlike Maggie.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 13/12/2022 09:37

Novella4 · 13/12/2022 09:20

The question you all should be asking is what the media DONT print and why

That won't happen.

People will only see what they want to see. And the phrase 'there are none so blind ...' is nowhere more evident than in people's responses to their repulsive overlords.

If Harry and Meghan succeed in helping to put them out to pasture, they will have done this country a service IMO. It's nothing short of amazing that Andrew hasn't already managed that on his own.

Octopusmittens · 13/12/2022 09:41

They are victims of their own imagination

This sums the Harkles up perfectly @cyrila

Damnautocorrect · 13/12/2022 09:42

they will leave it vague as it makes it sound more serious than it is. even if it’s an affair, it’s no one’s business but Catherine and Williams.

goodbyestranger · 13/12/2022 09:54

An affair per se isn't any else's issue apart from William, Kate , Rose and possibly her husband, but the fact of duping the public constantly to prop up the institution is a tiny bit of a problem actually.

ReneBumsWombats · 13/12/2022 09:56

I'd never heard the phrase "straight outta Compton" before that article.

I didn't need to. An entire piece about gang activity and crime, shoehorning in stuff about Meghan's skin colour and even pointing out that she's significantly lighter than her mother to the point where Doria was sometimes assumed to be her nanny. A clear implication of the message "she might pass for white but she isn't and look where she comes from". A far cry from "leafy Kensington suburbs" or whatever it was.

I did look up "straight outta Compton" after I read it, but I'd already guessed it was something along those lines when I saw how unbelievably offensive the article was.

Changeyncchange · 13/12/2022 09:57

Damnautocorrect · 13/12/2022 09:42

they will leave it vague as it makes it sound more serious than it is. even if it’s an affair, it’s no one’s business but Catherine and Williams.

Pretty sure it would fall under public interest actually.

headstone · 13/12/2022 10:00

Harry isn’t that cruel to mention an affair or ‘pegging’ for that matter whether it’s true or not. I suspect the next 3 episodes will be as dull as the first . Plenty of poor me and all that but nothing much more. If the audience are lucky they might get tight gate rehashed in more detail with dramatic music. I think Megs will also try to set the record straight about her wedding lie. Maybe they will find a relative to slag off her father in this episode.

PicturesOfDogs · 13/12/2022 10:01

stuntbubbles · 13/12/2022 08:59

I honestly don’t think it’s about the lie(s) to protect Will – which will be boring; I don’t think even Harry is silly enough to sell his brother up the river by exposing anything major – it’s about “not telling the truth to protect [him]”, I.e. not correcting things that are out there about Harry that have no basis.

So the question is really: what stories about Harry stand that should be corrected?

He said they won’t tell the truth to protect us

So I’m leaning now towards it being something about Meghan, otherwise he would have said me, not us.

I swear to god, if it is about bridesmaids dresses again, people won’t be impressed.

Is that really all they’ve got?

We’ll see Thursday, I’m going there’s more, otherwise, what’s the point? They’ve told all this already.

Also, if this is also the content of Harry’s book, it’s going to flop massively.

It’s one thing pressing play when you login to your already existing Netflix account, to something being heaving advertised, and another to go out of your way to buy a book.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 13/12/2022 10:11

goodbyestranger · 13/12/2022 09:54

An affair per se isn't any else's issue apart from William, Kate , Rose and possibly her husband, but the fact of duping the public constantly to prop up the institution is a tiny bit of a problem actually.

Her husband's well-reputed to be a friend of Dorothy's. It's not at all unusual for people in those circles to have agreements and a good many of them appear to be ambivalent.

Their business, of course, but it's quite amusing the way they keep up appearances by entering into conventional marriages and putting on a show of so-called 'hetero-normativity' on the surface. Discretion is the order of the day, albeit their proclivities are often common knowledge. The wives are usually models or society beauties. Nor is this at all unusual: the Bloomsbury Group (celebrities of their time) and their landed gentry pal Lady Ottoline Morrell were all at it (mostly with both sexes) a century ago.

I guess it all has to do with who inherits the estates. The aristocracy really is a relic from a bygone age.

NameChangePoP · 13/12/2022 10:15

The 'Prince of Pegging' rumour I believe is about PE. It's a well known secret he's always enjoyed male company and has had numerous late night male visits over the years......