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….. to wonder exactly WHAT specific lie was told to protect Price William ?

854 replies

Thisisnotreallymyname · 12/12/2022 19:49

Just that !
In the trailers for the next Harry / Meghan Netflix , Harry talks about how Courtiers lied to protect William .
Hmmmm - what could he gave done that needed lies told to us ?

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Kedece2410 · 13/12/2022 00:15

Ivyonafence · 13/12/2022 00:06

Except for repeatedly cheating on his wife, as has been reported all over the world...

Doesnt mean it happened. And has been pointed out several times on this thread the reports originated from a comment which the author admitted to making up. That seems to have been the only basis of the rumour

HeddaGarbled · 13/12/2022 00:26

Realistically, if the Mail or whoever, had a solid story about an affair, they’re going to publish it. All this conspiracy stuff about the media suppressing stories under pressure from the royal family doesn’t add up. They’ve published plenty of negative stories about Charles, carrier bags of cash, tampongate etc. Why would William be protected in a way that Charles isn’t?

CanStopWillStop · 13/12/2022 00:26

Prince of Pegging was trending earlier this year, allegedly our Wills likes a finger in the butthole...

Tinkerbyebye · 13/12/2022 00:28

he has probably done nothing, it will be another of Harry and Megs woe is me lies

AloysiaW · 13/12/2022 00:28

CanStopWillStop · 13/12/2022 00:26

Prince of Pegging was trending earlier this year, allegedly our Wills likes a finger in the butthole...

Look at yourself.

HRTQueen · 13/12/2022 00:30

the press always knew about camilla

as the knew about Diana’s affairs

when you read the stories it’s hinted at all the time I guess to be explicit they need actual evidence a picture etc

Bluekerfuffle · 13/12/2022 00:32

Ivyonafence · 13/12/2022 00:06

Except for repeatedly cheating on his wife, as has been reported all over the world...

Where has this been reported? Can you link to one article from a reputable source, or are you talking about twits on Twitter and the like?

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 00:33

DarkDarkNight · 12/12/2022 22:11

Loads of stuff. It’s not exactly unknown for the newspapers to be given another story if they don’t run what they have. William and Harry had the same set of friends and hung around together yet the stories were Harry taking drugs, Harry’s wild nights. Protect the heir at all costs.

It’s fairly commonplace. I’ve heard of it with record label and tv shows and recently the talent agency that represents lots of ITV stars - the papers have a damaging story, to get them not to print it they are offered another story, or an exclusive interview (in the star’s own words), or maybe they are threatened with losing access to all acts if they run it. It’s a nonsense to suggest the Royals and the media don’t have a similar symbiotic relationship.

I honestly don’t believe this is true.

They may negotiate with releasing photos etc, like ‘there’s something bad coming out about Andrew, Kate would you snap a few cute pics of the kids on the beach and release them?’

But to deliberately expose Harry to damning negative press, such as drug use and dressing as a Nazi? It makes no sense, Harry is also a close member of the royal family, what harms him harms them all.

It just seems ridiculous.

Not to mention that he is also Charles son, and the late Queens much loved grandson. I cannot comprehend that they would have allowed negative stories about Harry to be published if they could have avoided it.

There is also the story about Harry and Meghans trip to the Bahamas (?) for Harry’s friends wedding, apparently Meghan sent her pet paps (Backgrid) to take photos of them, so that going public would force Harry’s hand to acknowledge the seriousness of their relationship. The paps managed to get photos and recordings of Meghan giving Harry a bj on the balcony. Harry went to Wills and Charles for help and both W and C ensured through threats of legal action that those pics would never see the light of day. The palace HAS protected them. How else did so much of Meghan’s past get scrubbed from the internet?

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 00:34

CanStopWillStop · 13/12/2022 00:26

Prince of Pegging was trending earlier this year, allegedly our Wills likes a finger in the butthole...

Newsflash.. that’s not what pegging is.

MysteryBelle · 13/12/2022 00:37

CourtneeLuv · 12/12/2022 23:22

That's very interesting.

I don't think there's any mystery over how she conned so many.

People were falling over themselves to ensure any bad word about her was labelled as racist. Especially on here.

Yes, you’re right.

Justasec321 · 13/12/2022 00:41

ChillyFingers · 12/12/2022 23:58

Yes, very interesting!

Apparently the photographer who contacted Thomas Markle to set him up with the ‘discreet’ photo op to improve his image after all the unflattering pap pics beamed around the world, had worked with Meg previously. What a coincidence and we all know how that turned out!

Lord Rothemere owns the Daily Mail.

He is really good friends with Charles and Camilla.

The new head of their press office worked as an editor for the Daily Mail.

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 00:41

Talia99 · 13/12/2022 00:14

She was upset because the tabloids spent years pushing the ‘angry black woman makes white woman cry’ trope (the press didn’t publish the story once, they mentioned it multiple times) and the Kensington Palace press office did nothing to stop them despite knowing it was the other way around.

Kate was happy to apologise with flowers, so she accepted being at least partially responsible. It should have been a minor tiff between SIL at a stressful time but the press wouldn’t let it go and KP press office refused to tell the truth.

Except people who were actually there at the time (designers staff, dressmakers etc) have spoken publicly to say Meghans version of the story is not true. Also Meghan and her friend body shaming Charlotte and implying her dress didn’t fit properly because she was fat. THAT is apparently why Kate cried, not the tights debate.

Bestcatmum · 13/12/2022 00:47

The entire family are beyond toxic and repulsive and William gives me the creeps too. I wish they would all just go away.

Justasec321 · 13/12/2022 00:52

ChillyFingers · 12/12/2022 23:13

William and Kate are H & Meg’s direct rivals. They NEED William and Kate to look bad to big up their status in the US. So they can usurp them as figureheads of the RF. That was evident in the bad reception they got in the US with the mockumentary clips strategically timed to be shown at the same.

H will never have the status of King and people will get bored of him over there soon enough as the entitled, hypocritical non entity he is so he needs to make his mark hard to keep the dosh rolling to finance the mega star lifestyle they both believe they deserve.

The affair rumours were admittedly not true. I doubt H will spell out what he means. Its just to keep people guessing and hint at something bad.

William does not strike me at all as an adulterer. I read a few Blinds purportedly about H years ago which would make your hair stand on end!

It is boggling how people are taken in by this nasty, narcissistic pair of grifters. How can you not see through the fake emotions, facial expressions and outright lies? Bad luck to their families that they teamed up, it’s like a tag team of narkery!

I imagine William knew what H was like and sussed out Meg early on (there were rumours of sneaky pics of one of the children being taken on their first meeting), and that’s why he tried to get H to slow down manifesting full on narc rage, and years of pent up jealousy probably, with both barrels! Not only about H being the ‘Spare’ in terms of line of title. William was very close to Diana wasn’t he? I remember reading somewhere that she leant on him emotionally a lot and it was Diana who publicly referred to H as the spare. If she said that in public, probably said it in private too. He teams up with someone allegedly obsessed by Diana and bingo!

I never got the sense H was the ‘cheeky chappie’ portrayed in the press and I think more had been covered up about him than William who seems to be a genuinely nice guy.

I’ve never been bothered about the RF at all until all this all started and find it so interesting from a psychological POV. Very interested to see how the RF continue to deal with it too. They can’t keep silent as they’ll never stop, it’s the only way they can make their money. Meg successfully painted her own family (even her father) as complete trash for her own ends, to do the same with the most respected RF in the world will be a massive jewel in her crown!

Bonkers!

Affair rumours are untrue.

Blind gossip items on the other are true.

Two very definate statements there - how do we know though? Can you give us some insight into how you know so much?

HeddaGarbled · 13/12/2022 00:53

*Lord Rothemere owns the Daily Mail.

He is really good friends with Charles and Camilla.

The new head of their press office worked as an editor for the Daily Mail*

Didn't stop the stories about the cash for a knighthood story being reported, nor other negative stories about Charles.

This is just conspiracy bollocks, isn’t it?

It’s quite obvious the Mail are running an anti Harry & Meghan blitz at the moment, but I’m sure they’d publish a juicy story on William if they could only get one. They’d be thrilled.

Justasec321 · 13/12/2022 00:57

sausage767 · 13/12/2022 00:41

Except people who were actually there at the time (designers staff, dressmakers etc) have spoken publicly to say Meghans version of the story is not true. Also Meghan and her friend body shaming Charlotte and implying her dress didn’t fit properly because she was fat. THAT is apparently why Kate cried, not the tights debate.

* people who were actually there at the time (designers staff, dressmakers etc) have spoken publicly to say Meghans version of the story is not true*

How have I missed this???? Please please give me a link to that interview?

Also Meghan and her friend body shaming Charlotte and implying her dress didn’t fit properly because she was fat.
This is incredibly cruel and nasty. Can I ask for a source for that too?

Justasec321 · 13/12/2022 01:03

HeddaGarbled · 13/12/2022 00:26

Realistically, if the Mail or whoever, had a solid story about an affair, they’re going to publish it. All this conspiracy stuff about the media suppressing stories under pressure from the royal family doesn’t add up. They’ve published plenty of negative stories about Charles, carrier bags of cash, tampongate etc. Why would William be protected in a way that Charles isn’t?

Lord Rothemere is Prince Charles and Camilla's friend.

The new press officer for the King and his wife is an ex editor of the Daily Mail.

Blocked · 13/12/2022 01:07

Hotelfoxtrot · 12/12/2022 19:58

Harry thinks the royal family allowed the press to hound Meghan to take attention away from Williams affair

He'll be disappointed if he ever realises that people don't them not because of the various crap stories in the papers, but because of their incessant moaning.

HeddaGarbled · 13/12/2022 01:09

Lord Rothemere is Prince Charles and Camilla's friend

And yet the cash for knighthood story still got reported.

Morestrangethings · 13/12/2022 01:14

The 4th Viscount Rothermere
Daily Mail and General Trust (DMGT) is a British multinational media company, the owner of the Daily Mail and several other titles. The 4th Viscount Rothermere is the chairman and controlling shareholder of the company.

Daily Mail and General Trust - Wikipediahttps”

wtaf?

Morestrangethings · 13/12/2022 01:26

“The prince is understood to have 'known nothing' of either Mr Fawcett's letter or of emails from fixers about the prospect of an honour.
**
Indeed, the Mail understands that he was 'so surprised' by the claims that he 'couldn't believe them' at first.”

Daily Mail, September 2021.

hard hitting investigative reporting into knighthood affair and Charles. lol.

HardRock · 13/12/2022 01:34

Icouldvebeensomeonewellsocouldanyone · 12/12/2022 21:22

WHY IS HE DOING THIS TO HIS FAMILY?!

So wrong on so many levels

Which one? There are two families.

The family he comes from.

The family he has created with Meghan.

nettie434 · 13/12/2022 01:38

Justasec321 · 13/12/2022 00:57

* people who were actually there at the time (designers staff, dressmakers etc) have spoken publicly to say Meghans version of the story is not true*

How have I missed this???? Please please give me a link to that interview?

Also Meghan and her friend body shaming Charlotte and implying her dress didn’t fit properly because she was fat.
This is incredibly cruel and nasty. Can I ask for a source for that too?

Justasec321 I think the source for this comes from the Tom Bowers book Revenge. He is an investigative journalist who spoke to lots of so-called insiders. However, it is an anti Meghan book so it's not going to present her in a good light. Here's a link about the book and an interview he gave:

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11034845/Tom-Bower-claims-Meghan-married-Harry-famous.html

It doesn't go so far as to use the words fat shaming but the comments about the dress not fitting and unfavourable comparison with another flower girl are all there.

Chocco478 · 13/12/2022 01:41

I need to read the whole thread but sharing my tuppence that there is no way Will and Rose had an affair. Just no way; they are chalk and cheese and he isn’t a womaniser at all. Despite Philip and Charles going down that route! Rose is very different to him in character!

Liorae · 13/12/2022 01:43

nettie434 · 13/12/2022 01:38

Justasec321 I think the source for this comes from the Tom Bowers book Revenge. He is an investigative journalist who spoke to lots of so-called insiders. However, it is an anti Meghan book so it's not going to present her in a good light. Here's a link about the book and an interview he gave:

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11034845/Tom-Bower-claims-Meghan-married-Harry-famous.html

It doesn't go so far as to use the words fat shaming but the comments about the dress not fitting and unfavourable comparison with another flower girl are all there.

Oh dear. I suspect that fat is the worst insult Catherine could hear.

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