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Weird dolls hanging on neighbours tree?

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sandyfroglets · 11/12/2022 22:57

Unsure what this is for but they keep adding more rag dolls to their tree in their front garden. It's really creeping my children out.

They are hanging with other objects like wooden rings and ribbons. Is it some kind of pagan thing? No idea but it's bloody weird...

Aibu to ask them what it's for!? We live in a quiet little part outside of a city. Nothing unusual goes on here!

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H4ppyC4mper · 12/12/2022 08:39

I can see the movie now. Op goes round to get to know the quirky neighbours. All is well for a while. One day, op hasn't been seen for a few days but there's a new doll that looks suspiciously familiar hanging up on the tree now....

In all seriousness, meh, live and let live. I'd actually like to see some weird shit around here but everyone is desperate to be just like everyone else 🙄 (small town)
There's no need for the kids to be scared, different cultures/different people are into different things. Doesn't mean it's anything sinister. I mean, it might be. But likely isn't. I'd be interested to see what else they add to it!

Mardyface · 12/12/2022 08:52

Totally agree @H4ppyC4mper . Good post.

Iamnotausername · 12/12/2022 08:58

Outing.

Where we used to live the people opposite, mutilated a tree (half chopped it down so it rested accross their garden wall) and tied increasing numbers of different teddy bears to it. It seemed like they cut it down specifically to do it. They would leave them to go go moudly and fall apart. Sometimes they would do it at night. Not joking. No idea what that was about and they were scary so no one ever asked.

There was a B&B a few houses down and they'd get online reviews talking about the teddy tree. They've closed now. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.

TheQueenOfHearts · 12/12/2022 09:43

I would totally ask them, why not? Can't hurt to ask and find out about others culture/beliefs if that's what it is?

Livelovebehappy · 12/12/2022 09:45

Maybe the neighbours come from the ‘island of the dolls’. Really freaked me out when I saw it. Can’t upload pics here, but Google it. It’s soooo creepy.

Livelovebehappy · 12/12/2022 09:47

Picture.

Weird dolls hanging on neighbours tree?
Faith77 · 12/12/2022 09:56

Onnabugeisha · 11/12/2022 23:31

I think I’d knock on the door and say “see you have a put up a liberty tree” and if they go “wot?!” then say, oh, it’s not a liberty tree, my mistake, may I ask what it is? Just chat long enough to find out how sane they are and perhaps suggest they take it down.

Why on earth would you think it is your place to tell them what to do in their own garden?! Not your property, not your business!

vera99 · 12/12/2022 10:00

That's how its starts this is how it ends......

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 12/12/2022 10:00

StarSol · 12/12/2022 03:24

I’m pagan but I don’t recognize this practice but there are so many subtypes and practices I couldn’t tell you. Some pagans like creepy and that’s their preferred aesthetic but they are pretty harmless. I don’t like the creepy look myself. It looks like they might be decorating for Yuletide.

The story of the12 days of Yuletide is celebrating the death and rebirth of the sun. The longest night of the year between the 21st and 23rd is the “death” of the sun. And the new year when the days start to lengthen is the rebirth when the goddess gives birth to a new sun or year if you will have it.

Most pagans don’t do anything wild with dolls like this in trees though. We usually do lights and dried citrus slices because it looks like the sun inside.

I imagine one of the dolls represents mother earth and her fertility of a new sun. Not sure what the other dolls could symbolize. Your guess is as good as mine.

I’m just explaining because someone’s understanding the thoughts behind the practice makes it less creepy for some.

Interesting stuff. There are so many variations on the theme of this story: the Holly King and the Oak King, or Persephone's return to the underworld being pretty similar. But I have to say that if hanging creepy dolls in trees is their 'thing' it's harmless; a sight more so than some of the practices of conventional religion. They're proper, full-sized dolls too, not poppets. (Have to say I prefer a good cleansing smudge and some bells/chimes by the door)!

Conventional Christianity does the same thing with gargoyles around the tops of churches to frighten away evil spirits. They serve exactly the same function.

I'm quite happy to see such a reemergence of Paganism following all the years of persecution.

RudsyFarmer · 12/12/2022 10:02

Perhaps they think they’re Christmassy?

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 12/12/2022 10:02

NB. I'm cracking up at the observation that one of them looks like Boris Johnson. Just as long as they don't see fit to add a Donald Trump blimp. I'd be having nightmares for months!

mumnosbest · 12/12/2022 10:03

I've just asked my Albanian DH about this. He thinks it's creepy too and has no idea what the earlier poster had seen in Albania. I do agree a holiday to Tirana would be lovely though or better still, visit the South 😊

CallMeDaphne · 12/12/2022 10:05

JoyBeorge · 11/12/2022 23:07

Rod Stewart and Su Perkins? 😱

Not Rod; clearly David St Hubbins off’ve Spinal Tap.

Weird dolls hanging on neighbours tree?
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 12/12/2022 10:06

sashh · 12/12/2022 03:42

Dordolec?

borgenproject.org/teddy-bears-in-albania/

It's also possible it is pagan, I know someone up thread said it isn't but there are 'Cloutie trees' around, they are not common but they do exist.

Ribbons or rags can represent a prayer / wish, they are dipped in water from a 'holy' source and then hung from a nearby tree.

In Germany human sacrifices were hung from trees in, well fairly ancient times.

This one abuts a sacred well close to where I live. No dolls, though.

Weird dolls hanging on neighbours tree?
Rubyupbeat · 12/12/2022 10:22

To ward off evil in some south American countries.

Vindica · 12/12/2022 10:35

Cloutie trees are awful, people completely miss the point of them and damage the tree and surrounding environment in the process. The idea of clouties was that they were strips of natural, biodegradable fabric that someone with an affliction (maybe a wound, maybe an emotional or mental pain) would wear wrapped around their injury (or close to their heart, if it's an emotional thing) and then wash it in the holy well to wash away the injury. The cloutie would then be tied around the tree and as the fabric decomposed so the injury would fade. These days people wrap all sorts of crap around trees that doesn't biodegrade and it can end up damaging the tree, not to mention the wildlife who can end up injured as a result of people's stupidity.

The doll tree is just creepy and odd, if it's a supposed pagan thing it isn't a well researched or thought out one.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 12/12/2022 10:45

Anyone read the Tommyknockers by Stephen King? There are dolls in that.

Notanotherone6 · 12/12/2022 10:45

Not sure what's creepy about a doll in a tree.

It's a kid's toy. In a tree.

Weird, sure, but not creepy.

Tonty · 12/12/2022 10:49

@justasking111 THAT wasn't kind at all Shock I clicked on your link and honestly couldn't find the correct button to close that window down, my hands shook and I couldn't see the keys, just that evil looking thing staring 😬.

Sennelier1 · 12/12/2022 10:56

@Onnabugeisha oh wow, could that be the explanation? Life becoming extremely expensive and that's how OP's neighbours show their discontent?

DarlingCoffee · 12/12/2022 11:01

Could it be that they are a very bad attempt at homemade craft OP? clutches at straws

Mirabai · 12/12/2022 11:06

Whoever lives there is from a shamanic culture. Shamanism is the world’s first religion/s and are practiced everywhere - but particularly still strong in Africa, S.America, Russia/E.Europe. Native American, Australian and NZ indigenous religions are all shamanic.

The form of it in this case hoodoo voodoo as I said. @HoppingPavlova may be right that it’s honouring or trying to connect with ancestors, but I’ve seen this particular manifestation more often associated trying to ward off evil spirits or black magic.

Paganism doesn’t mean anything other than non Christian. I don’t find many people who call themselves pagan have any idea about actual Celtic shamanism - the practices of which are preserved in only a fragmented way in archeology and myth.

Mirabai · 12/12/2022 11:07

Rubyupbeat · 12/12/2022 10:22

To ward off evil in some south American countries.

Yep.

Nocutenamesleft · 12/12/2022 11:09

sandyfroglets · 11/12/2022 23:35

Yes but I wonder why they are adding some and adding random bits too? I am nosy I guess and would love to know haha! They aren't my next door neighbours but we drove past to get out of the estate!

It's a really quiet part in Hampshire.

Where abouts? You can PM me if you like.

Mirabai · 12/12/2022 11:10

Fwiw Celts used to throw votive offerings into “wells” and water.