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To think no one can name a single positive benefit of Brexit

328 replies

measuringmylifeincoffeespoons · 04/12/2022 07:49

Just that really. I'm genuinely curious. There seems to be increasing coverage and evidence of the harm and cost of Brexit. Can anyone point to a positive benefit?

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Calmdown14 · 04/12/2022 09:28

This is where Mumsnet shows up it's middle class attitudes.
The reduction in the supply of cheap labour has made a difference where we work. The days of '25 hours a week but you must be available 24/7 and we won't tell you when until two days before' are ending because companies can't get away with it.
It is things like this that kept many who want to work on benefits. How is anyone supposed to manage child care on that?

And why would an employer pick a single mother rather than someone here simply to work and make money so happy to take every shift? That's of course not the fault of anyone here to build a better life but it made the expectations of some employers ludicrous.

Riu · 04/12/2022 09:28

I like the fact we aren’t in the EU anymore. I don’t like the politics of the EU. I don’t like being part of it, in the same way many people on here wouldn’t like being in a union with the Republican Party with Trump and co. telling them how great it was. Even if it isn’t financially the best decision, I still prefer to be more independent from it. I love Europe and I like being a closely allied to European countries:

Tuichi · 04/12/2022 09:30

Marigoldandivy · 04/12/2022 08:52

I do like having my passport stamped again. Somehow though it doesn’t make up for the dire economic impact and weakening of our place in Europe.

Came on to say precisely this. I finally found a single solitary upside to Brexit this year when I got a passport stamp visiting Italy. And who doesn’t love a stamp in their passport, eh? So whenever I think about Brexit negatively now, I can just think about my stamps and remember it’s not so bad...

CockingASnook · 04/12/2022 09:30

Some tradespeople are probably getting paid more money due to not having European competition. That’s about it, so far as I can see.

whatwasIgoingtosay · 04/12/2022 09:36

I just got a new passport. It looks black, not blue, to me. Brexit is destroying our economy, ably helped by a series of utterly incompetent Tory governments.

pumpkincivilisation · 04/12/2022 09:39

Riu · 04/12/2022 09:28

I like the fact we aren’t in the EU anymore. I don’t like the politics of the EU. I don’t like being part of it, in the same way many people on here wouldn’t like being in a union with the Republican Party with Trump and co. telling them how great it was. Even if it isn’t financially the best decision, I still prefer to be more independent from it. I love Europe and I like being a closely allied to European countries:

Same here..

sashagabadon · 04/12/2022 09:41

It has made it easier to get work and salaries have increased in many jobs. Competition for lots of roles is less and it’s easier to leave one job and get a higher paying one in some sectors. Hospitality and building are examples. My dh in building can charge almost double which is very good for him and by extension his family.
that’s one example of a benefit

sashagabadon · 04/12/2022 09:44

I also think if it would have been a conversation that will never go away on either side. If remain had won 52:48 the leavers would not just have shut up and gone away , they would be continually banging on in just the same way as the remainers do now.
there’d be thread after thread of “ what benefits does the EU bring to the average Brit?”

Orangepolentacake · 04/12/2022 09:48

AWaferThinMint · 04/12/2022 08:05

Do we not still have a specific space on here for brexit. These repeated threads are so tedious and I didn't even vote for brexit. I just think we need to move on now and deal with things.

Tory Gov under BJ and onwards has been a disaster. A softer brexit might have been a very different outlook.

Just don’t open/click/read the threads

Mogwire · 04/12/2022 09:50

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GonzoGonzo · 04/12/2022 09:51

The lack of EU labour has driven up my pay & our skills are much more appreciated. My industry (food manufacturing) has seen exports to Europe up approx 30-40% but reasons for this are complex & not sure Brexit has helped this. I voted remain & my employer is openly pro EU (... Cheaper labour Etc)

MarshaBradyo · 04/12/2022 09:54

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 04/12/2022 09:24

Australia has a robust and effective border patrol with many very fast boats patrolling the maritime border. They catch a lot of boats, and most of the refugees are sent to Nauru or Christmas Island. Not many make it to Oz, it's a lot more difficult to get a boat from Sri Lanka to Oz for example, than Calais to Dover.

Yes you’re right. Brought in under Howard iirc and drastically reduced crossings in thousands to near zero. It’s been normalised I’d say as it’s a bi-partisan response that voting public want.

I don’t think we’re in same space yet re public demand, whether a changing and more volatile situation in the world due to climate issues changes that over the next few decades I guess we’ll see.

Herroyal · 04/12/2022 09:55

Honestly can’t think of one. Lots of Europeans left, maybe Brexiteers think that’s good, I don’t.
My company supported our European staff with £ and paperwork to allow them to stay, but quite a few chose to go anyway as they didn’t feel welcome anymore.

AWaferThinMint · 04/12/2022 09:57

@Orangepolentacake I could equally say "just use the right bit of the forum"

I'm only irritated because I have read pretty much the exact same thread three times already this month. It's tedious.

jetadore · 04/12/2022 09:58

Thanks to Brexit it’s now much easier and more acceptable for me to be openly racist.

twocatsandtwokids · 04/12/2022 09:59

Discussing this with friends yesterday. None of us could think of a single benefit! How can there be?!

paintitallover · 04/12/2022 10:04

I agree it's been shit all round.

Angela59 · 04/12/2022 10:05

The biggest democratic decision EVERY taken in this country was taken to remove unelected politicians and officials that choose to extract everything they could from one of its biggest donors and it p*sed off EVERY political party x

Mogwire · 04/12/2022 10:11

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Ablababla · 04/12/2022 10:14

You are so impatient.

Jacob R-M said it might take 50 years for the benefits of Brexit to be realised.

that’s not much use to me as I’ll be in my 90s. Possibly not much use to my 12 and 10 year olds as they will be in their 60s. Maybe my five year old might just be young enough catch the beginning of all the doubtless amazing benefits.

BacklogBritain · 04/12/2022 10:18

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Middledazedted · 04/12/2022 10:20

I found people in Europe quite solicitous of my welfare and gently and kindly sad for me to be part of the whole shitshow.

usernotfound0000 · 04/12/2022 10:26

I quite like having my passport stamped. That's really the only thing though.

Mirabai · 04/12/2022 10:27

Untitledsquatboulder · 04/12/2022 09:17

There are potential benefits around immigration and reform of agricultural policy. Not that we've done anything productive with the former and the farming lobby is fighting hard against the latter.

Yes the great benefit of Brexit will be to decimate farming in this country. By 2027, by which time the CAP subsidies will be completely phased out, many small farms will be going/have gone out of business.

The 2013/14 figures show that the average U.K. farm made profits of £6,600.
In 2014/15 this was reduced to £2,100. In 2015/16 small farms made a loss of £6,600 while large farms made a profit of £22,300.

For small farms the subsidy represented 80% of their profit, without which they cannot survive.

Until 2018 UK farmers received £3.5 billion a year - that income is not being replaced.

UnnecessaryFennel · 04/12/2022 10:29

Passport stamps. That is literally it.

But, just like the vaccine and the blue passports, we could have had stamps anyway, without committing a serious act of financial and political self-harm that will limit the country for decades.

Hey ho. Guess I better just close my eyes and breathe in the sweet smell of sovrinteeeeee instead.