Kier starmer! He hates strivers!

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He wants to introduce a policy to put up the cost of school fees 10 to 15%. This is a tax on hard-working parents! We slave away cutting cots everywhere living hand to mouth to try and improve our childrens future . Live in an average house average area 1 shit car no holidays work like a dog to get our kids through. We are easing the burden on the state system by choosing independent schools. We're not sending them to Eton paid by our trust fund! Why does he want to punish strivers! Tax the energy companies! So disappointed. We need a new political party. What's the point in trying to better your future.

"and land of riches is coming."

Eh?
Why is reversing an arcane tax law require the promise a land of riches?

Blair didn’t go for private schools, top tax payers or the financial sector - to be prosperous he managed to make all feel part of it of the opportunities and

Starmer doesn’t have this knack or vision unfortunately.

As we all know one piece of evidence is just an ancedote. If you could find a second, two together is definetely data.

It’s just a phrase. But generally the U.K. you will get. I hope it lives up to expectations. As if it is levelling down instead it’s going to be very depressing.

I hope you are all right and Starmer is great, and U.K. does well.

The bursaries/scholarships thing is pretty low impact in terms of real, non-anecdotal numbers:

Only 6,118 students - around 1 per cent of all private school students - received a full-fee scholarship, while a further 2 per cent received remissions of between 75 and 99 per cent of fees, they found.

The report says that “the overwhelming majority of scholarship students still require very substantial family contributions”.

It says: “Scholarships may therefore do little to make schools genuinely more socially inclusive. Many scholarships may, in practice, be awarded to middle- or upper-class families who might be asset-rich but cash-poor.”

It adds that some academic research has argued that “scholarships are used to bolster the existing social and cultural composition of student bodies”.

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Wealthy people paying a more for private education because a legal loop hole has been closed isn’t going to keep most people awake at night.

There is an obvious solution- these schools become actual charities and change their intake to 90% local children who pay no fees, and fund raise and use endowments to pay for this.

So applies too pp too or are you on a quote roll?

Look you may be right, I hope so. I have doubts. It looks like it appeals to people on emotional level because it’s taking away. I can see the downsides but others are sure it’s going to bring the benefits however just an emotion isn’t a benefit - like Brexit.

Blairs might well have been influenced by his own children going to the Brompton Oratory, a fee-paying RC school.

Blair didn’t go for private schools, top tax payers or the financial sector - to be prosperous he managed to make all feel part of it of the opportunities and

Blair also didn't inherit an economic catastrophe, 15 years of poor economic management and an approach to education that removed the ability of the state sector to swiftly respond to growing pupil numbers in the pursuit of a demented anti-local authority ideology.

If you've got a choice between who gets a billion quid in a cash-strapped state - private schools or state schools - that's a choice you need to take seriously.

It has quite clearly been a terrible week for Labour and Sir Keir.
The 6th biggest swing from Tories to Labour since WW2 in the by-election yesterday. The Tories having their worst result in Chester (a seat that was Conservative until 2015) since 1832.

news.sky.com/story/labour-wins-city-of-chester-by-election-12758562

Clearly this policy of taxing the rich is a vote lower in middle class shires.

‘Scholarships may therefore do little to make schools genuinely more socially inclusive. Many scholarships may, in practice, be awarded to middle- or upper-class families who might be asset-rich but cash-poor.”

The level at which children are expected to be to apply for scholarships at age 10/11 is a barrier in itself.
If you’re being asked to be grade 4 in 2 instruments by that age to apply for a music scholarship ( which is typical) that’s a big ask! How does a child get that hood without money for lessons, exams and an instrument?

the sports ones also tend to be asking for ‘county level’ at that age and also focus on ‘traditional’ sports like cricket, rugby, hockey
tennis etc
WC kids aren’t playing these sports - they’re playing the ‘cheap’ ones that don’t cost money for equipment - football, basketball
they aren’t given the chance to be in cricket teams etc as much
they don’t have access to tennis courts the way MC kids do.

most of these bursaries and scholarships are going to MC kids.

I thought the Oratory was state? Could be wrong. And of course it is able to practise regionally stringent social selection through its admission policies.

Faith admissions in the state sector are a whole other bucket of social division.

How much is this raising?

We’re going to need more than gunning for private schools. A vote winner but also has negative consequences.

Like it or not our tax burden needs people to pay it and taxes change behaviour. We have various assets and using them as a emotive tool for votes doesn’t bode well for me.

A but like the pandemic and everyone calling for one thing and it was fairly obvious the public sector funding would decrease if you hit private sector.

It’s a balance but Blair got it right imo. Although other stuff wrong - we did land in a final crisis (and yes part of even if not caused) and illegal war. But I’d take him and that kind of vision and inclusive positivity any day.

Boris Johnson went to Eton on a scholarship.

I'm sure his father had nothing to do with it, and he got in purely on merit 😂

The amount raised is not the point, it's the the fact that the private schools are businesses yet claim charitable status, and this anomaly needs to be rectified.

Blair raised 8bn in extra taxes/freezing thresholds (in his first Parliament) he inherited a large black hole in the nations finances.

He also spent a great deal on lower income households.

Labour wont be able to change much, the Tories have totally trashed the nations health & finances, even Ken Clarke believes this.
Then there is the cost of Brexit :(

It is funny that Tory supporters are sooooo angry about a relatively small tax change, that will put almost 2bn into the state sector.

Talk about wanting to keep the masses down.

@MarshaBradyo

Reportedly £1.6 Bn

The amount raised is not the point

If people ate talking about fixing finances it’s very much the point.

But if people are now accepting it’s more a vote winner than fund raiser fine by me. Red meat for the left etc

Nobody has suggested 1.7 billion from closing ancient tax loophole will magically fix public finances. You do the public a disservice by suggesting otherwise.

What on earth does where I live have to do with you?

I’ve sent my kids to private primary for a few years

yet I am totally on board with Keira’s plans

it’s been a much exploited loophole, calling private schools “charities” when to all intents and purposes they are businesses

only 1% get a full scholarship

that is not a charity

I was responding to this, ie Starmer needs to do it whereas Blair didn’t. Starmer is doing it for voted not much benefit.

Blair also didn't inherit an economic catastrophe

We’re going to need more than vote winners that don’t do much but make people feel happy others get something taken away.

My chosen path would be highlight our assets in U.K. as last Labour gov did.

@echt - many years of commentary on private schools by Labour politicians. Must be around 80 years worth of comments about their dislike of private schooling.

Btw, I think it's a great idea. These places are not charities, imo.

Wondering if you’re the aggressive one who is o/s. Probably

I don't understand what you have written.