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To think Royal Mail workers should not be striking

796 replies

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 00:55

They’ve already been offered a 9% pay raise and declined. Royal Mail is already making a loss. It’s a national service for the public which is now being severely disrupted by strikes, it’s appalling.

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Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 22:17

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:16

OP I’m so sorry for how people on this thread have treated you. Not everyone in life will treat you appallingly I promise, lots of us in this world are kind people, I hope you’re ok?

OP isn’t a small child that’s just been taken into care you know? They are a functioning adult.

Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 22:19

I’m leaving now, this threads gone weird, some of us have post to deliver in the morning.

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 22:20

@Mamabear197 #bekind Get a grip! Telling people they should apologise to someone slagging off workers, likely with nefarious intentions, for exercising their legal right to strike! Just because they were in care! Being a care leaver has absolutely naff all to do with anything on this subject. Do you know if any of the other posters here are care leavers? NO you do not. The OP does not have care, compassion or respect for the workers currently striking, they told us they should suck it up, accept the dubious conditions without question and that the staff 'are lacking in credibility' for not being able to afford to live! Is that what a caring compassionate person says?

FlamencoDance · 27/11/2022 22:20

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster’s request.

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:20

Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 22:17

OP isn’t a small child that’s just been taken into care you know? They are a functioning adult.

She’s still a care leaver who may be vulnerable and will almost certainly have had trauma in her childhood that may still be affecting her now.

NewPapaGuinea · 27/11/2022 22:20

You are utterly unreasonable in thinking you have any business telling striking workers what they should accept.

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:21

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:16

OP I’m so sorry for how people on this thread have treated you. Not everyone in life will treat you appallingly I promise, lots of us in this world are kind people, I hope you’re ok?

Oh yeah bless you OP, the workers should just suck it up! They shouldn't strike!

None of them are care leavers. after all!

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:22

NewPapaGuinea · 27/11/2022 22:20

You are utterly unreasonable in thinking you have any business telling striking workers what they should accept.

But OP is a care leaver, so we must all
agree, @Mamabear197 says we must!

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:22

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 22:20

@Mamabear197 #bekind Get a grip! Telling people they should apologise to someone slagging off workers, likely with nefarious intentions, for exercising their legal right to strike! Just because they were in care! Being a care leaver has absolutely naff all to do with anything on this subject. Do you know if any of the other posters here are care leavers? NO you do not. The OP does not have care, compassion or respect for the workers currently striking, they told us they should suck it up, accept the dubious conditions without question and that the staff 'are lacking in credibility' for not being able to afford to live! Is that what a caring compassionate person says?

She may have been like that because of her trauma though, it may even not have even meant to have caused such a stir on her part. I don’t agree with her points but I’ve worked with people in care so I understand trauma and how that affects their behaviour as well.

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 22:25

@Mamabear197 oh you must be an expert then. And the only one with any experience of trauma and the care system. Thank you for coming here and lecturing us all on how to be kind. Us nasty meanies that we are!

AttilaTheUOkHun · 27/11/2022 22:26

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:22

She may have been like that because of her trauma though, it may even not have even meant to have caused such a stir on her part. I don’t agree with her points but I’ve worked with people in care so I understand trauma and how that affects their behaviour as well.

Stop going on about trauma. You seem determined to make op relive her trauma. Are you trying to trigger op?

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:27

Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 22:19

I’m leaving now, this threads gone weird, some of us have post to deliver in the morning.

✊I'm 100% behind you! I'll be bringing water, food (probably Greg's 😂) when I pass your picket line next Wednesday?

Keep going, stand up for your rights!

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:30

Has anyone seen

@Mamabear197 and @Hitthehighseastoday

On the same post within five minutes of each other?

🤔

OP has disappeared, how odd!

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:31

You have treated OP appallingly and it’s not on

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 22:32

NewPapaGuinea · 27/11/2022 22:20

You are utterly unreasonable in thinking you have any business telling striking workers what they should accept.

By striking all that will happen is that Royal Mail’s customers will use their competitors

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Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:33

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:31

You have treated OP appallingly and it’s not on

"You"??

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:37

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:33

"You"??

Lots of people on this thread have treated the OP in an appalling way

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:37

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:33

"You"??

Yourself included

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:40

@Mamabear197 what's your view about the postal workers striking?

That's what this post is about!

Mamabear197 · 27/11/2022 22:42

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:40

@Mamabear197 what's your view about the postal workers striking?

That's what this post is about!

Fully support the strikes

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 22:47

@Mamabear197 so how do you feel about the OP? very definite, they shouldn't strike, very emotive, they're getting 9% rise (true bit not true).

Do you think that everyone should assume that all OPs re care leavers and want that taken into consideration, therefore agree with them?

Or do you think that care leavers, have the right to assume that everyone should not treat them with kid gloves and assume they're perfectly able to have a justified view point and argue their case?

Am I a care leaver?

Is anyone else on this thread a care leaver?

DdraigGoch · 27/11/2022 23:22

berksandbeyond · 27/11/2022 08:21

@Conkersareback because RM workers are not on minimum wage.. like a lot of other unskilled jobs are in retail / hospitality

Would that be why I keep seeing "staff wanted" signs up and was in a long queue for a toasted sandwich at the station because there was only one member of staff available? In a free market with a labour shortage you need to put wages up and offer attractive conditions to recruit and retain staff.

It's no longer a race to the bottom, those employers who offer the worst conditions will find themselves with no staff and no business. Talking of which, one Transpennine Express depot has lost 60 drivers who have left for better paid jobs on freight work. So workers who are treated poorly by those above them are leaving, with the resulting effect upon the service their former employer offers.

DdraigGoch · 28/11/2022 06:12

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 19:48

Yes I work in an office and sit behind a desk but that does not make us cold hearted and mean like you are implying it does, I’m sorry but I don’t think it’s fair to say people with money are all cold hearted and mean

So you're not on your feet all day in all weathers? Perhaps you should walk in their shoes (literally) before saying that they don't deserve fair pay and conditions.

DdraigGoch · 28/11/2022 06:40

This is what bugs me...posties aren't refusing to modernise! I don't know how many times I need to say it. Posties are willing and able to make changes, modernise, do things differently.

We get the same bollocks spun about the railways by government ministers. Apparently we "refuse to modernise". Of course by "modernise" they mean "work an extra five hours per week for less total pay, and work more nights and weekends without the enhanced rates that compensate for these antisocial hours.

Stillbrokenby2022 · 28/11/2022 07:08

Wow OP and @Mamabear197 have exactly the same bedtime, what are the chances of that?