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To think travellers should be weighed WITH their luggage when travelling.

300 replies

Bakergram · 24/11/2022 15:49

I'm prepared for backlash.

I was charged excess for my hand luggage as it was over a certain weight- that's absolutely fine. The combined total weight for myself and my cabin baggage was approx 69 kg. My friend wasn't charged because their luggage wasn't overweight yet the combined total for them and their luggage was over 90kg. My friend joked about how unfair it was.

Surely it would be fairer to use the combined weigh of traveller and cabin luggage to determine and excess fees due?

OP posts:
notimagain · 24/11/2022 17:57

It should be a weight allowance for each person. Not each luggage.

Nope, you need a reasonable single item weight limit to protect the baggage handlers.

oakleaffy · 24/11/2022 17:57

@Bakergram I completely agree with you.
Lightweight people should be allowed a greater baggage allowance.
It’s not “Goady” as PP say it is to suggest it.

PortalooSunset · 24/11/2022 17:58

I'm a fatty and I absolutely agree with you op.

ReneBumsWombats · 24/11/2022 18:00

Georgyporky · 24/11/2022 17:32

In the early days of mass air travel, passengers were weighed.

Wasn't that just to balance the plane properly, as needed in those days? Weee heavier passengers actually charged more?

Lostatseawithnolighthouse · 24/11/2022 18:00

GyozaGuiting · 24/11/2022 15:54

Yanbu.
From a business perspective it’s about fuel.
More weight = more fuel.
You and your bag bring more weight to the flight, you pay more.
I weigh 50kg and therefore cost less in fuel than someone who weighs 100kg.
It’s just maths. Some airlines already do it.

Airlines don't do this unless theirs a balancing safety aspect involved e.g. tiny propeller plane where weight needs to be balanced on both sides.

IcedPurple · 24/11/2022 18:02

oakleaffy · 24/11/2022 17:57

@Bakergram I completely agree with you.
Lightweight people should be allowed a greater baggage allowance.
It’s not “Goady” as PP say it is to suggest it.

Apart from the fact that it would almost certainly be illegal, how would this be administered?

You usually book luggage at the same time you book your seats, which could be months in advance. Your weight could change quite a bit, either up or down, from the time you book to the time you fly. Should there be staff at check in making people stand on a weighing scales, in full view of the entire airport, to ensure that you weigh the same you did at the time you booked your seats and your luggage? If you've gained weight, do you have to pay a fine? If you've lost weight, do you get a discount or get to add a few extra bottles of shampoo and another pair of shoes to your bag?

The admin and delays this would cause, not to mention the arguments and the embarrassment for all concern would, excuse the pun, surely outweigh any savings.

Bakergram · 24/11/2022 18:02

jamoncrumpets · 24/11/2022 16:58

Look we had the old 'fat people are gross on planes' thread a few weeks ago, and I just don't have the spoons today to read all about how many of you think people like me are disgusting and lazy.

The whole premise of this thread is vile.

So many people have assumed that a) I'm skinny and b) the other person was fat. Neither of these are true! We weigh different weights but the other person is substantially taller than me and very muscly. I didn't make this about being fat....

OP posts:
Bazinga007 · 24/11/2022 18:05

100% agree OP, why should I be charged the same as somebody who costs the airline more. It should go without saying that this shouldn't include anybody who is physically disabled. Also everybody should have 2 arm rests, none of this sharing, if you are in the middle then you may end up with none. And yes if you are paying more because of size then you should get more room on the plane.

EasterIssland · 24/11/2022 18:05

But your suggestion would affect people that to your eyes are obese / fat … jusr because you two are not fat doesn’t mean the rest of us aren’t and we deserve the same rights as you. Your suggestion would affect everyone and would cause discrimination and body shaming.

Bakergram · 24/11/2022 18:09

witchesbubblebath · 24/11/2022 17:54

This. You sound like an arse, OP.

My friend is a man and although so many here are assuming he's a she and overweight....he's not. He's very tall and well built. He made the tongue in cheek suggestion and was joking.

OP posts:
Greensleeves · 24/11/2022 18:14

People are spoiling OP's fun by going on about tall people, men having heavier bones etc. FGS we're clearly supposed to be frothing about FAT people, you know, the ones who don't deserve anything nice in life because they spend all their time eating pies and fomenting the decline of civilisation.

EasterIssland · 24/11/2022 18:15

Bakergram · 24/11/2022 18:09

My friend is a man and although so many here are assuming he's a she and overweight....he's not. He's very tall and well built. He made the tongue in cheek suggestion and was joking.

You’ve said this multiple times. Ok your frien is not obese. Well done to him
I’m. Your suggestion would discriminate me. So no thanks. Next time learn to pack better

DdraigGoch · 24/11/2022 18:17

I looked at flights to a place with very poor public transport connections. I knew from past experience many years ago (Monarch, well before they went bust) that airlines charged you for hold luggage but I had no idea that some now even charge you for overhead bags.

So I said "sod it" and found a way to make public transport work (with some difficulty, there are no trains across one particular border and just two long-distance coaches per day). I could take two cases and a smaller bag free of charge on Eurostar. In total it was no more expensive to take the train across Europe (including sleepers/couchettes) than it would have been to fly.

Wallstick · 24/11/2022 18:19

It's adorable the people think their clothes weigh much less. Patterns are graded up maybe half an inch or less each size. Just looking at a random sewing pattern I've got: size 8- 2.6m fabric and size 24- 3.0m fabric. Even if you use all the extra fabric and none of that extra 0.4m was scrap (unlikely) it would weigh about 38g. How much of a discount do you want on the fuel to ship your teeny tiny coat?

Sugarplumfairy65 · 24/11/2022 18:20

luxxlisbon · 24/11/2022 15:54

You do actually pay for an under 2 year old so their luggage/ pram is not free, you just don’t pay an adults full fare if they don’t have a seat.

I've never paid for a seat for under 2 years old

BigFatLiar · 24/11/2022 18:21

There was a fatal aircraft crash sometime ago that was attributed to the weight of the passengers. Airlines work on an average weight per passenger and the average weight was as calculated many years ago when people were lighter.

m00rfarm · 24/11/2022 18:22

Bigger people need bigger clothes - so they are already packing more than you ...

DogsDryWineAndCheese · 24/11/2022 18:23

Fine. Do I get cake for my fat arse at check in?
But, obviously, being so teeny tiny, you need less allowance for your tiny clothes!?

Seriously, the extra weight that someone bigger costs in terms of fuel wouldn’t be remotely worth the administration. A lot of the restrictions on baggage are because of the logistics/safety of the baggage handlers etc (and also so the airline can make more money!)

Henuinequest · 24/11/2022 18:23

‘So many people have assumed that a) I'm skinny and b) the other person was fat. Neither of these are true! We weigh different weights but the other person is substantially taller than me and very muscly. I didn't make this about being fat....’

I assumed you were either a bit thick and couldn’t follow guidelines or disorganised.

KickAssAngel · 24/11/2022 18:29

As others have pointed out - there's a limit on cabin bags so that the lockers aren't over-loaded. I don't want to think about how dangerous an oveweight bag could be if the locker catch gave way and the bags landed on someone's head.

there are so many factors that influence weight, that there's no way it could be fairly assessed. My teeny-tiny uncle who held some deeply obnoxious opinions would happily spend a flight telling their neighbour why gay people should die, or single mothers be locked up etc. Should he be charged more for verbally imposing upon his neighbour, even though he didn't weigh much?

Basically - when you're flying, you're on public transport and it's no more luxurious or comfortable than the local bus. I just go with the approach that it's gonna be crap, but then I get to where I'm going and can relax again. There's nothing glamorous about flying, so just stick to the rules and try to switch your annoyance radar off for the duration.

NippyWoowoo · 24/11/2022 18:47
Biscuit
Canthave2manycats · 24/11/2022 18:49

Op, you've little on your mind!!! Do you some kind of enjoyment from humiliating people?!

AltheaVestr1t · 24/11/2022 19:03

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 24/11/2022 16:02

I'm 49kg and I've often thought this, OP. I think smaller-sized clothes should be cheaper too, as they use less fabric and less petrol etc to transport them due to being smaller and lighter. I also think I should be exempt from the sugar tax.

But it's a very unpopular opinion. My suggestion is to get a massive coat with loads of pockets and fill it with your excess stuff.

You are not immune to the effects of sugar because you are of a healthy weight. That's ludicrous.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 24/11/2022 19:10

How odd I have flown with easyJet, Tui, Virgin and BA in the last year and no one has weighted my hand luggage.

Tiani4 · 24/11/2022 19:11

Way to fat shame people Blush

I'm tall and big (one seat worthy curves not obese)
So I wouldn't want this and it would humiliate me to be weighed with my luggage

But unfit in Middle Aged disabled women who got a bit curvy

I can't see they'd be allowed to do this - would you weigh my wheelchair too or my sticks?