to think it's ridiculous for football player in Qatar to want to protest about LGBT rights?

[Sausagenbacon]

when they are playing in stadiums built by migrant workers in appalling conditions? Plus, to me it seems the height of cultural imperialism to go to other countries and expect them to adopt out moral stances.

I'm gay and find the whole thing just absolutely preposterous. "When in Rome" seems to have disappeared from some people's minds.

Qatar is a religious and conservative country, I have slept with guys from there but I could be potentially killed if I ever stepped foot in the place, that's why I have no plans to ever go. It's just attention seeking at this point and trying to grab media attention.

What a nasty, snobbish comment. I'm assuming you know lots of footballers to have been able to form this opinion?

Ah, gay people and peadophiles in the same box, just lovely.

Qatar has welcomed foreign teams & players as guests to their country. They cannot impose their inhumane regime on foreigners playing football. The footballers need to actually undertake more stances, I was very disappointed by the England team quite frankly. They should have worn the armband then dealt with the response, even if it meant defaulting a match. FIFA is a corrupt organisation, last world cup Russia, now Qatar.

YANBU OP

I'm done with activists hijacking sports, advertising, education, in order to push their cause. If you want a platform, fund your own

I'm also fatigued with different groups trying to upstage one another to come first prize for victimhood. I'm done with intersectionality also.

you apply moral relativism to homophobia but not to racism

Morals are relative

2+2=4 =>fact

The earth revolves around the sun => fact

Most other matters are opinions, and everyone is entitled to their own.

‘Morals are relative

2+2=4 =>fact

The earth revolves around the sun => fact

Most other matters are opinions, and everyone is entitled to their own.’

my right to exist as a person without threat of death or injury or jail JUST because I married a woman and not a man isn’t an opinion. It’s a basic human right.

Most other matters are opinions, and everyone is entitled to their own.

For the types of thing where that does pertain, everyone is then entitled to criticise and reject other peoples 'morals'.

And if anyone thinks that the equality of the sexes and freedom from persecution because of their sexuality is mere opinion rather than basic human right, then my opinion is their 'moral compass' is bust.

If morals are ‘relative’ then the people who believe that people from different ethnicities shouldn’t marry are allowed to not just hold those opinions but police them?

morals may be ‘relative’ but civil rights are not.

Yes, but it was a newborn.

Someone is looking after her (I think) while the Qataris use every tool in their arsenal to find and drag back the third world migrant worker who panicked and dumped the baby rather than be imprisoned etc.

Exactly, I'm straight and have been with my husband for 20 years too.
As you say, it would be hard to not show you were a couple - even if you thought you were just acting like mates, surely eye contact, loving looks, body language and forgetting yourself for a minute and a playful hand on knee as you get up type thing etc?!
You can't just hide it ffs and no one should have to.

morals are ‘relative’ then the people who believe that people from different ethnicities shouldn’t marry are allowed to not just hold those opinions but police them?
Of course they are. In their country. Just as we are free to disagree.
The idea of Gay Rights has only existed here for a few years. What about trans Rights? TRA's believe that trans Rights are human rights while GC people question this. We can't even sort out what human rights are here.
And yet we carry believing (or rather, some do) that we are right. Even when we don't know what we believe from one decade to another.

It's your insistence on being constrained from protesting by national boundaries which is problematic.

Of course, if you break the law in another jurisdiction you have to accept you'll face the consequences there.

If cultures support hateful attitudes then cultures need to change.

Married couples have been punished in Saudia Arabia for public displays of affection . I'm not sure about Qatar though.

It is true that LGBTQ+ people are in danger but so are many people who openly show ( sexually based ) affection in public

Weirdly , men holding hands is fine in many Arabic countries . My white middle aged short balding straight husband who has been to a few Arab countries has strolled around holding hands quite often with similarly aged Arabic men who are showing him around for work reasons

I.kust wish political statements were kept out of Sport. The focus should be on the football.