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To think drugs and breastfeeding don't go well together.

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Sushipaws · 30/01/2008 22:14

Now, I'm not a prude, each to thier own, I don't care if people want to get wrecked at the weekend, many of my friends do. But.....

I have just got off the phone to my mate who was out at the weekend with a girl I know. The girl had a ds about 5 months ago and moved away to be nearer her parents. She was up visiting for the weekend and had left ds with her husband. They went out on Friday and Saturday night. On the Friday night she took E and Coke but said she couldn't on the Saturday night as it wouldn't be out her system by the time she bf her ds on Sunday night.

I was really shocked, surely it takes longer than one night to leave her blood stream. I told my mate I thought the girl was an idiot and very selfish. My mate said I was over reacting and she knows a few mum's who have bf and occationally taken drugs.

Some expert advice needed here, would it still be in her system?

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jlilly · 31/01/2008 17:50

I also dont agree with the comment "We're talking about "social" drug taking here, not Trainspotting-style shooting up."

Try telling that to any mother who has lost a child to E.

LadyVictorianSqualor · 31/01/2008 17:50

Hmm, I think cocaine is a terrible drug, my exdp is an addict, and many of the people I used to mix with took it alot, but I woudlnt say many of them were addicted.
Fucking stupid maybe but not addicts.

FioFio · 31/01/2008 17:53

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GetOrfMoiLand · 31/01/2008 17:55

Christ, can't imagine going out on the razz and taking cocaine with a very small baby to look after. Bloody hell who could be arsed

GetOrfMoiLand · 31/01/2008 17:56

Christ, can't imagine going out on the razz and taking cocaine with a very small baby to look after. Bloody hell who could be arsed

GetOrfMoiLand · 31/01/2008 17:56

Christ, can't imagine going out on the razz and taking cocaine with a very small baby to look after. Bloody hell who could be arsed

mumzyof2 · 31/01/2008 17:58

GetOrfMoiLand - do you feel very zstrongly about that point??

Ineedacleaner · 31/01/2008 18:02

HAve to agree with Jilly here. I think it is very naive to say

"We're talking about "social" drug taking here, not Trainspotting-style shooting up."

you just don't know what you are getting there is no such thing as a safe illegal drug.

I personally don't think that this wman should be vilified for taking drugs. I wouldn't do it but it is not our place to criticise anyone cause really none of us are perfect.

mumzyof2 · 31/01/2008 18:04

FF - Not EVERYBODY finds it addictive. Otherwise I would be addicted, as would dp. And we both spent around £15,000 on the stuff in the space of a few months!!! And that is not an exageration. Obviously we wouldnt now as we have dc's.
She did a couple of lines, and was responsible enough to stop after the first night as she didnt want it affecing the baby. She could have carried on regardless, but didnt.
I have a friend that has a 8 month old ds, that she regularly (ie, all week sometimes) leaves with her mother so she can go on coke benders, and spends all her money on it. Its awful - and THAT deserves a slating, not a couple of lines on a night out.

GetOrfMoiLand · 31/01/2008 18:05

oops sorry for my triple posting!!

Reallytired · 31/01/2008 18:31

"FF - Not EVERYBODY finds it addictive. Otherwise I would be addicted, as would dp. And we both spent around £15,000 on the stuff in the space of a few months!!! And that is not an exageration. Obviously we wouldnt now as we have dc's."

15K is an incredible amount to spend on a drugs for someone who is not addicted. How much more would a drug addict spend?

I suspect its a bit like smoking in that people often don't admit that they are addicted to ciggerettes.

twelveyeargap · 31/01/2008 18:37

If people were better educated about drugs, there would be fewer deaths. Silly young people who've been told by their over-protective and ill-informed parents that "all drugs are as bad as each other" and things of a similar vein, are far more likely, imo, to do things like Leah Betts and die from water-intoxication (not the direct effect of E).

I've shown my 12yo the pictures of a crack-addict's demise like these and told her how heroin can be the scourge of society because of the crime it causes. She also knows that whilst some people say cannabis is "harmless", just smoking the stuff can give you cancer, regardless of any other effects.

But I'm also not going to pretend (if she ever asks) that that time I went to Ibiza and she stayed with my mum, that I wasn't taking E and partying all night in Pascha.

Does that make me a bad parent? Perhaps in some people's eyes; but I don't expect to have a child die from lack of information about drugs and that's good enough for me.

YOMO · 31/01/2008 18:54

It doesn't matter how educated about drugs you are if you take an E that has been cut with to much kettamine ( I know I have probably spelt this wrong) or a poison then there is a chance it will kill you. In this country as E is illegal there are no tests available to test what is in it so regardless of how much water you drink there is a chance that that one pill could kill you...

twelveyeargap · 31/01/2008 19:25

Far less of a chance of half an E killing you than one, if you're smart enough to try a little bit first and see what happens.

And more importantly, if my children did take drugs (and I'd rather they didn't, despite whatever I have done in the past) and it all went wrong, I'd like them to feel comfortable enough to call me and say they've taken something dodgy, than end up in K-hole mess on the floor of some nightclub.

Much as I enjoy these debates, must now go and snort a few lines put my children to bed.

BITCAT · 31/01/2008 19:43

Is it just me that thinks motherhood is a privelege and there are lots of women that struggle to get pregnant, let alone have a healthy baby, i really don't believe that anyone who has the responsibility of motherhood should be taking such drugs and forgetting there responsibilities, bf or not it's not right!!

dustydoorknobs · 31/01/2008 19:44

YOMO - ecstacy testing kit

not even too expensive. you might wanna check your facts before you go on about things you obviously have no clue about.

Reallytired · 31/01/2008 19:47

"Far less of a chance of half an E killing you than one, if you're smart enough to try a little bit first and see what happens."

If you are smart you can have a good night out without taking ANY illegal class A drugs. Many of these drugs can cause long term mental health problems even if they don't kill you.

With the right to have a family comes responsiblity. Being a responsible parent sometimes means leading a bit of a boring life and avoiding unnecessary risks.

YOMO · 31/01/2008 19:51

Actually ddk i do know about it. I lost my brother who was 17 at the time. He died after taking one E at a nightclub (obviously they didn't have computers at this nightclub where he could order e testing kits from the states) that had been cut with more rat poisen than anything else..

Louisey100 · 31/01/2008 19:54

Very interesting post. I read an article in the Sunday Times a few weeks ago on this very subject. The author chose to remain anonymous (I wonder why?!) and said that she and her friends would regularly meet for weekends, along with all their children and once the children were in bed they would chop up the coke & get charlied off their minds. Now, she concluded this article saying that she was very shocked when one of her friends confided that she was still b/f and would just pump & dump for 12 hours. The reason she was shocked? Was that she couldn't be 100% sure how long the coke would stay in the system for and whether or not the baby would injest any through its mother's milk. Without knowing the full affect, why on earth would any responsible person take the risk?

Some people have been banging on about taking drugs to be the mother's choice. What about the baby's choice?

twelveyeargap · 31/01/2008 19:58

Hmm, well, given that I have had exactly one night out (apart from the soda and lime at the pub quiz across the road the other night) since getting pregnant in August 2006, I think we can safely assume that I take my parental responsibilities (with regard to drink/ drugs etc) seriously.

It doesn't mean that I have to now change my entire personality/ persona and previous opinions and say that I will never, ever take drugs again.

princessmel · 31/01/2008 20:00

Agree with everything FIO has said.

BITCAT · 31/01/2008 20:07

Reallytired my sentiments exactly, total agree with you. And yomo we are all very sad to here what happened to your brother and i also agree with what you said too!! Once can be your last and do you really want to leave your child without mother/father for the sake of 1 night, i don't see why they need it!!!

Maveta · 31/01/2008 20:13

Well I´ve had my share of illegal drugs aswell but wouldn´t take coke or an E while breastfeeding or, in fact, if I had to look after my baby/child within about a week of doing so. Come downs are more hideous with each year of your life it seems so why go through that while trying to adequately care for a baby is totally incomprehensible to me.

I can´t even imagine the possible scenario that would enable to (or make me want to) partake in the same scene as I did pre-baby for at least the next few years.

berolina · 31/01/2008 20:16

I'm with whoever said drugs and parenting don't mix.

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Sushipaws · 31/01/2008 21:25

OMG 15k on Coke.

Must of been a very blurry few months.

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