To be utterly fed up of covid

[SingMeToSIeep]

I've just tested positive for the seventh fucking time. Last time was mid September. I've had it five times this year.

I've had to cancel a hospital appointment that had been rescheduled from the last time I had it and a dentist's appointment that I'm desperate for. Also a long planned day out yesterday. Plus I feel like utter shite. Again.

Just want a moan and some sympathy really. Bastard covid.

I would be raging if I'd had four vaccines and had Covid twice!

Why?

I've had six vaccines and had Covid seven times!

But to be fair, I am super talented at catching it because I have such crap immunity, which has the fun bonus of also stopping vaccines working as they should (I don't get a good immune response from any vaccinations, not just Covid). Thankfully they've done the heavy lifting so far and stopped me from becoming very ill, for which I'm eternally grateful. Raging I'm most definitely not!

Thankfully they've done the heavy lifting so far and stopped me from becoming very ill, for which I'm eternally grateful.

No one will ever know whether the vaccines stop them from becoming ill! Unless you inject yourself, catch Covid, then uninject yourself and do the same again.🙄

They seem to be shooting people's immune systems into the ground! Chocolate fireguards if you ask me, with a dose of myocarditis 😷

My immune system is shot into the ground, which is why I get covid so often. Six jabs in, no real side/lasting effects (apart from feeling a bit rubbish for 24 hours after my first in Feb 2021).

Prior to vaccines people with my condition and on my medication were becoming very ill with covid. I know of three people in my situation - all in their 40s or 50s, otherwise healthy, disease well managed and living a normal life - who died of Covid in 2020. Now, people with my condition/meds rarely become very ill with Covid (thanks also to antivirals for those who qualify).

I'm interested to know why you think vaccines are harming immunity though? What are you basing this on?

To all those on here who say they keep getting Covid - well, if you don't take the vaccines, what do you expect?
Oh wait...you have taken the vaccines?
But then that means the vaccines don't....erm...ok never mind.

Yes, vaccines don't work, I'm sick of catching polio, diphtheria, rubella... Oh, wait.
I know the anti vaxxer tropes don't make sense anyway, but beforehand, it may be worth knowing that the vaccine was never intended to stop you catching covid - it's meant to lessen the effects if you do.

Loics, please tell me where I said polio, diptheria vaccines etc don't work? I know Covidian True Believer tropes don't make much sense, but there's no need to read things in that aren't there!

I'm immunosuppressed. I don't get a good immune response to any vaccination because of that. Any protection I get from vaccines works by preventing me from becoming very ill - in the case of covid, for example, tens of thousands of people with my condition died prior to vaccines. Including people I knew. Now, very few do.

Any death is one too many. However it's worth noting that just over 500 people died last week with covid. This time (roughly) two years ago, prior to vaccines, three times that number were dying a day. But yeah. Vaccines don't work, do they?

Singmetosleep, where did I say vaccines don't work?

BTW 'dying with Covid' means dying WITH Covid, not OF it. The number of people who die solely OF Covid is very few. Since you have to die within 28 days of a positive Covid death, you could get run over by a bus and still be listed as a 'Covid death'. Most who die WITH Covid have co-morbidities of which they were going to die anyway.

Look, I was a 'True Believer' in the early days of the pandemic as well, but it soon became clear it was nowhere near as bad as we were being told, and the stats were being used to justify all sorts of things like harmful lockdowns, the ruining of children's education etc. And yet on this thread you'd think it was still March 2020!

Countries across the world are reporting a rise in sudden and unexpected deaths, especially from heart related incidents and blood clots.

If the unvaccinated are UNDER represented in these stats, the logic is what???...

It's almost like certain posters aren't reading the Ops posts at all! (I'm sure they know far more than the Ops doctors)

Then logically, LFTs are pointless because if they say you have Covid, you probably do, but if they say you do not, you may still have it.

Would you use a pregnancy testing kit with a similar reliability?

It's almost as if LFTs were being pushed by drug companies in order to grab huge amounts of taxpayers' money...but surely not!

But then that means the vaccines don't....erm...ok never mind

Here.

No, this thread doesn't feel like 2020 at all. For a start, nobody is calling anyone a murderer or a dementor - now wasn't all that very silly?

Yes, I said dying with covid. Very careful to do so. However, in the case of the three youngish people I knew with RA/immunosuppression who died, their deaths were entirely from covid. They wouldn't have died if they hadn't caught covid. Their underlying disease was well managed, they were not frail, they were all quite active and with normal lives/jobs/families. My point was that they very likely would not have died had they caught covid once they'd been vaccinated, as very few with these health issues do now. They lost certainly were not going to 'die anyway'.

For most people, covid isn't as awful as was feared back in spring 2020. But for those who are CEV/immunosuppressed, even though we're fairly confident we're not going to die, getting ill several times a year is a pain in the arse. And that's why I started this thread - to moan, basically!

I'm actually feeling a bit better today. Certainly better than I did on day four when I first had covid in March 2020. Yaknow, before vaccines ☺️

Possibly from these conditions not being investigated due to lockdowns/backlogs, not vaccines.

I wholeheartedly agree with vaccines and truly believe them to be lifesavers. I do think that some aspects of lockdowns were too Draconian however, and we're just beginning to reap what was sown. Particularly with things like child development, MH and undiagnosed health issues.

It does feel that way doesn't it!

Especially loving the way the anti-vaxxers are using my experience to illustrate the 'fact' that vaccines don't work while conveniently ignoring the fact (that I've repeated several times) that people with my condition are not dying from covid in the way they once did prior to vaccines. Or that we're now at 500 deaths a week as opposed to 1,500 a day.

Whilst its true people die with covid, covid speeds up the process, you may as well argue Flu doesn't kill people either, as they all die of heart failure.

I'd imagine the numbers dying after being hit by a bus are vanishingly small.

I'm nr 60, i ve had every cold n flu bug going over the years but nothing prepared me for Covid, the after effects are awful, fatigue, chest pains, more fatigue!!!!

The way i look at this is that if a medic told me i needed treatment x for my conventional illness, then i'd take it without question, as doubtless you would, yet when it comes to Covid, we all seem to be "experts" who doubt worldwide medical opinion.

Which is a pretty mainstream POV really!

Sending lots of sympathy and wishing you a speedy recovery, OP xxxx
Sorry about some of the responses you got 😶

I wasn't - you heavily implied the fact people are still catching covid means the vaccines don't work, that isn't the point of them.
What is a Covidian True Believer? Do you not believe in covid? You aren't making much sense.

Not useless at all. Just not perfect.
Very few, if any, medical tests have 100% sensitivity and 100% specificity.
LFTs correctly rule out covid in people who don't have covid in >99% of cases.
They correctly identify covid in people with it ~80% of the time. If that then enables those people to take steps to avoid spreading the virus, that is a good thing even if some people are missed.
It's almost as if people commenting on mumsnet have no understanding of how diseases spread...but surely not!

'If a medic told me I needed treatment x for my conventional illness, then I'd take it without question, as doubtless you would.'

No, because I've heard of something called Thalidomide. Nowadays it's pretty easy to research medication and decide on balance, taking into account your doctor's advice, whether it is right for you or not.

The problem with the Covid jabs is I was not told I personally needed treatment based on my particular medical situation and history - we were ALL told we MUST have it, or face all sorts of possible consequences like the loss of jobs, loss of freedom of movement etc.

That in itself was sufficient to make me realise there was something fishy going on. And there is no such thing as 'worldwide medical opinion' on this - thousands of prominent scientists have spoken out against 'worldwide medical opinion' but they have been silenced by the media because for some reason, governments do not want dissenting opinions to be known about.

@MrsHollingberry Clutching at straws with Thalidomide!

You are basically saying there was a worldwide conspiracy to get everyone vaccinated - hear your self!!!!

As far as i am aware, no one was required to prove vaccination status to go anywhere, other than international travel and even then, a PCR test would be ok.

Only care workers were required to have a vaccination and even that was quickly changed, for 99% of the pop. it wasn't a factor.

Amazing that you'd primarily use the internet to research a particular treatment but that same source of information has been silenced on covid vaccinations...

I don't agree with what you say although I might be wrong. My experience is the opposite. I work in a busy office and have to induct 8-10 new inductees every week that come from all over the UK. I have never caught covid once. Am I just lucky? I don't know, I feel sure I must have had it but the tests are not showing it for some reason. At one point I was testing every three days for months as was required by our company. Every time I feel slightly unwell I take a test, in fact I took one this morning as I feel achey, headachey and just very run down. Negative again.

Also to say that most of my colleagues have caught Covid many times in our office. Its very weird.

I’ve never tested. If I feel unwell, any kind of unwell, I stay at home.