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To not realise I was saying this wrong...

562 replies

HelloBunny · 19/11/2022 21:50

Stopped on the street today by a lady looking for a shop. She asked for the nearest “Shrov-Ski”.
Explained further that it’s a jewellery shop. I eventually cottoned on that she meant “Swaa-Rov-Ski”
Bit like “hyper-bole” with me as well... (until I heard it said on the News!) And the name “Beat-Rice”.

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sunnydaytoday0 · 20/11/2022 00:48

Out of interest, which option would you pick?

There's just been a powerful storm, and afterwards your house is surrounded by:

  1. DEB-REE
  2. DE-BREE
  3. DAY-BREE
I was going to say 1, but thinking about it I might say 2 aswell.
MatildaJayne · 20/11/2022 00:51

Deb REE with the emphasis on the REE

DuchessDandelion · 20/11/2022 00:51

I'm a bit of a stickler for getting pronunciation right but I can't get over chipotle.

Chipotle is always chi-pot-le in my book and anything else just sounds ridiculously pretentious.

I imagine this won't change until I finally visit Mexico (which I will obviously only then pronounce Meh-ih-o) and who'll be the pretentious one then?? 🙄😂

oakleaffy · 20/11/2022 00:52

eurochick · 19/11/2022 22:06

It is silent...

I beg to differ
I have heard it used ( In UK) and it’s pronounced
“ Dille-tant-i”

Definitely not “” Dilletant”

oakleaffy · 20/11/2022 00:58

Medici
As a kid I called it “Medeecee”
( They published books and postcards years ago)

A woman in a bookshop said “ You mean “Medeechi”.

ladygindiva · 20/11/2022 01:03

HarlanPepper · 19/11/2022 22:02

I've only just found out that the last "e" in dilettante isn't silent. Luckily it's not a word I say very much.

What?????

MammaWeasel · 20/11/2022 01:04

My sister, who is partially deaf and an avid reader, says bag-u-ett for baguette and et-i-quet for etiquette.

Which I think goes to show that you should never take the piss out of someone for mispronounced, because they have only ever seen a word written, rather than heard it spoken.

heidipi · 20/11/2022 01:07

I’ve confessed this before on MN but had seen ballache written down and thought it was maybe something French I didn’t know the origin of, and pronounced ba-lash.
Never made the connection with “a complete ball-ache”. Sounds much more glamorous my way…

NameChangeForARaisin · 20/11/2022 01:07

A Korean friend was horrified with how I pronounced Hyundai (high un di), he insists it is H'yun day.

YeahThanks · 20/11/2022 01:18

I’ve heard people mispronounce Halcyon as Haly Con rather than Hal See On and I’m very glad I don’t live on Beauchamp Place I bet that’s pronounced like it looks rather than Beecham Place.

Sunbird24 · 20/11/2022 01:20

I’m another who’s never heard dilettante, only read it - I did A Level French so that was usually my ‘go to’ for guessing pronunciation. Glad I know better before any unlikely need to actually say it out loud!

I read Phoebe long before I ever heard it, and to me it was Pobby. Mind you I can’t have been more than 5 at the time.

DuchessDandelion · 20/11/2022 01:24

I read Phoebe long before I ever heard it, and to me it was Pobby

Laughed aloud at this!

I've always been frustrated that (and totally convinced that the rest of the world is wrong) that Stephan is pronounced Steven and not Stefan.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 20/11/2022 01:25

As a child I remember one Christmas asking for a glass of Skweepees as I’d seen my mum have a gin and Schweppes. 😂

L0bstersLass · 20/11/2022 01:26

Changechangychange · 19/11/2022 23:04

My dad spent several weeks calling his new colleague “Penny Lope”.

And there is the famous AskAManager thread about somebody who thought she had two colleagues, the guy called Joaquin who she emailed about stuff, but had never met, and the other guy Wakeen who sat opposite her….

I love the Joaquin/Wakeen story. That's made me smile.

Anyonebut · 20/11/2022 01:28

Cleopatra67 · 20/11/2022 00:31

L’Occtane has the same root as occident, as in the East.

Occident as in West, Orient is east.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 20/11/2022 01:28

threelittlefigs · 19/11/2022 23:03

Is it lo-wev-ay? That's how I've been saying it?

What context is this?

The only Loewe I can think of is "Lerner &" (My Fair Lady, Camelot etc) and I've only ever heard it pronounced "low".

Changechangychange · 20/11/2022 01:39

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 20/11/2022 01:28

What context is this?

The only Loewe I can think of is "Lerner &" (My Fair Lady, Camelot etc) and I've only ever heard it pronounced "low".

If you are writing the German word for lion, Löwe, on a keyboard without umlauts, you’d write it “Loewe”. Lurvah.

God knows if the brand is pronounced like that though!

SoggyBananaLoaf · 20/11/2022 02:09

As a small child, I completely read the name Cynthia as Ky tharna. No idea why. My exh had a go at me for pronouncing Persephone correctly! He was a very strange man!

sashh · 20/11/2022 02:26

There are some sounds that after a certain age you lose the ability to make depending on the language(s) you speak.

Arabic has a sound that to English speakers sounds like the way Dutch people sound the Gough in Vincent van Gough

But if you are a native Arabic speaker there are two different sounds.

I've always been frustrated that (and totally convinced that the rest of the world is wrong) that Stephan is pronounced Steven and not Stefan.

It is.

EdvardMunchsMuse · 20/11/2022 02:27

As a child I thought the American car, the Buick, was pronounced bwick not bew-ick.
Segue still doesn't seem right as segway. I know it is but why isn't argue pronounced argway?

bridgetreilly · 20/11/2022 02:57

@Changechangychange it’s Add - eye - RON - dacks.

Iseestupidpeople · 20/11/2022 03:02

Loewe is actually Lion so it’s a name if you see referring to anything other than a lion. And it’s an ö Umlaut so needs to be pronounced like this and unlike dilettante the e is not silent.

I’d also like to argue the it’s an Italian word as it depends how far back you go.

Italian obviously, as well as French and Spanish and Portuguese are all heavily based on Latin, which is also why you find influence of this and some words being the same in the heavily romanised areas, however England had a great vowel change I think it’s called around the time of Shakespeare and words now sound nothing like they used to back then anymore. And Sean (Shawn) and Saoirse (soar shaw) are Gaelic based names just like Aoibh (eve) and often are not spelled the same in other languages.

and how is v any different to w?! It’s the same pronunciation. V can stand for either an f or w sound but doesn’t have its own sound, which is why there is no v in some languages like polish they just use w or f.

and fascinatingly Russian has 2 letters that aren’t letters they simply determine if the letter next to it is a hard or soft pronunciation.

Iseestupidpeople · 20/11/2022 03:10

Oh and Adidas is a name. It’s Adi (first name - from Adolf as I imagine not so popular at that time) Dassler (last name) say it like your German as that is where he is from. The very very old boxes used to say on it adi dassler. He had to come up with something when he and his brother fell out and presto Puma and Adidas went their own ways.

sashh · 20/11/2022 03:20

Iseestupidpeople · 20/11/2022 03:02

Loewe is actually Lion so it’s a name if you see referring to anything other than a lion. And it’s an ö Umlaut so needs to be pronounced like this and unlike dilettante the e is not silent.

I’d also like to argue the it’s an Italian word as it depends how far back you go.

Italian obviously, as well as French and Spanish and Portuguese are all heavily based on Latin, which is also why you find influence of this and some words being the same in the heavily romanised areas, however England had a great vowel change I think it’s called around the time of Shakespeare and words now sound nothing like they used to back then anymore. And Sean (Shawn) and Saoirse (soar shaw) are Gaelic based names just like Aoibh (eve) and often are not spelled the same in other languages.

and how is v any different to w?! It’s the same pronunciation. V can stand for either an f or w sound but doesn’t have its own sound, which is why there is no v in some languages like polish they just use w or f.

and fascinatingly Russian has 2 letters that aren’t letters they simply determine if the letter next to it is a hard or soft pronunciation.

The great Vowel shift.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

French words have entered the English language at more than one point, the first isn't actually French but 'Norman French'. This is fascinating to me.

VeganFromSveden · 20/11/2022 03:22

on first ever reading subtle, in my head it was sub tal
finding out it was suttle was a revelation.

btw, thanks to pp on posting the kids from fame clip.
id forgotten that back in the day, I thought Bruno was GORgeous!