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To not realise I was saying this wrong...

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HelloBunny · 19/11/2022 21:50

Stopped on the street today by a lady looking for a shop. She asked for the nearest “Shrov-Ski”.
Explained further that it’s a jewellery shop. I eventually cottoned on that she meant “Swaa-Rov-Ski”
Bit like “hyper-bole” with me as well... (until I heard it said on the News!) And the name “Beat-Rice”.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 20/11/2022 10:18

KirstenBlest · 20/11/2022 10:04

@Mummyoflittledragon , Oui?

Wee. Wink

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/11/2022 10:20

@Benjispruce4 , yes, I was well aware, thanks - so that would translate as ‘Ready to animal-feed trough’. Er…..

Correcting them might have prevented them from feeling like tits if someone else did later, but at the time I guessed that they didn’t have Pret in Australia - and they were heading home soon - so perhaps it wasn’t going to matter.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/11/2022 10:21

I love Eggyput!! 😂

newnamethanks · 20/11/2022 10:22

Thank you 😊 @TwoLeftSocksWithHoles 😅

CheeseIsMyPatronus · 20/11/2022 10:22

I would pronounce Dilettant without the final E because I would spell it without the final E - there's contentious for you!

Wiki tells me this is a perfectly acceptable alternate spelling in English, so it means everyone gets to be right - you Dilettantes and Dilettants.

@HelloBunny, a dilettant is a dabbler, someone who has a broad surface knowledge but not an expert. Comes from the verb to delight. Often used sneeringly but I think it's a nice thing to be.

My childhood mispronunciations were CHasm for chasm and OR-Y-ON for the constalation Orion. I was very disappointed by the latter! It sounded like an Irish surname, not a mighty hunter.

Benjispruce4 · 20/11/2022 10:23

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER I added my second post because read mine back and realised the tone could be misinterpreted. Obviously not a direct translation of manger but was having a joke.

Benjispruce4 · 20/11/2022 10:26

I had an email from a friendly colleague asking “What’s the crack?” 😂

MsPrism · 20/11/2022 10:26

popcornsong · 20/11/2022 10:10

When I was very young (under 7 I think) I was left to read a story to the rest of the class when the teacher popped out. The story was about a princess of Egypt. I had never seen the word Egypt before but was prepared to give it a go. In my family we still call the land of the pyramids Eggyput.

That's exactly how I am going to pronounce it from now on - glorious.
I learnt to spell it by saying 'Egg-wipe-t' in my mind.

Flanaganstrousers768 · 20/11/2022 10:27

Can anyone confirm how you pronounce gesso please? As in artists’ materials?

KirstenBlest · 20/11/2022 10:29

@Flanaganstrousers768 , Jesso

Iknowthis1 · 20/11/2022 10:30

I'm always surprised by how often people type "should of" instead of "should have". In speech I'd have assumed they're saying should've.

DatasCat · 20/11/2022 10:35

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/11/2022 08:43

@Fireballxl5 , I can’t agree that English largely consists of badly pronounced French.

A lot of it, especially more basic words, is from the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic root.

I once read that in Churchill’s famous ‘We shall fight them on the beaches….’ speech, there is only one word of Norman-French origin, and that is ‘surrender’.

When the Normans came over there developed a three tier system of languages. Latin was still the language of the Church, Norman French became the language of the aristocracy, the army and the law, while English (which back then was not like our English but an inflected language with case endings and totally different grammar, resembling modern day Icelandic) became the language of the common people.

When a language is widely spoken, but not widely written down, it changes more rapidly (look what happened to classical Latin in France, Spain and Italy). The interaction of medieval English, Norman French and ecclesiastical Latin (itself a different beast from the language of Virgil and Ovid) led to a massive expansion in vocabulary and a complete breakdown and transformation of English grammar, so that the English of Chaucer is unrecognisable from the English of King Harold.

HelloBunny · 20/11/2022 10:37

What’s the crack? Brilliant!

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LaGioconda · 20/11/2022 10:37

eurochick · 20/11/2022 07:21

It's both. Not surprising as the two languages have common roots and share many words. I speak French and studied French literature at university. I probably first came across the word there and so have always pronounced it the French way (as apparently do the Americans). I'm surprised that the U.K. has apparently adopted the Italian pronunciation. For historical reasons we Brits have adopted many French words into our vocabulary but very few Italian words that are not food related. I wonder what the reason is.

To pronounce it the French way, you would have to say "dee-ye-tont". Do you?

But, either way, the root of the word is solely Italian and the final e should therefore be sounded.

WhatIsThisPlease · 20/11/2022 10:40

Benjispruce4 · 20/11/2022 10:05

I’m 51 and have only ever known Adidas to be spelt with one i. The boys at school thought it hilarious to say it stood for -all day I dream about sex.

In my day it was "after dinner I did a 💩"

Nice.

Brightonbelle87 · 20/11/2022 10:42

My favourite is my manager saying canopies or my MIL saying 'can-apes' for canapés and there's a few sports reporters who say 'making their day-boo' for debut.

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/11/2022 10:44

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/11/2022 09:57

I also didn’t know this. But that would explain why it was adiidas when I was younger rather than the current spelling.

Nestlé (roughly pronounced Neslay) was always referred to as Nestle’s in the 1970’s and 80’s. The milky bar kid and Nestle’s milky bar song.

Oops @Benjispruce4I didn’t mean spelling. No idea why I said that. Pronunciation. Always been spelt Adidas.

TheBoots · 20/11/2022 10:45

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/11/2022 09:12

Totally disagree. You absolutely do. I’ve never met a French person including the one I’m married to, who doesn’t make the liaison. It sounds very British. Dh agrees.

Where is your husband from? In Bourgogne we do not make the liason.

Fifthtimelucky · 20/11/2022 10:47

There's definitely an age element here.

I always thought Moët was pronounced moway because that's how Freddie Mercury sang it in Killer Queen (which I first heard as a teenager in the 1970s).

The 1970s television adverts for Anaïs Anaïs used to pronounce it Annay Annay.

And back then Nestlé was always pronounced Nessles.

Of course pronounciation isn't always consistent. I was surprised to find that in Hastings there is a Beaconsfield Road that is pronounced beacons field rather than beckons field.

My daughter had a friend whose surname was Featherstonehaugh. He pronounced it as written, rather than as Fanshaw.

And Charles Powell pronounced his surname Pole whereas his brother Jonathan pronounced it Pow-ell!

Benjispruce4 · 20/11/2022 10:49

I have a friend with surname Powell pronounced Pow-ull .

KirstenBlest · 20/11/2022 10:50

@Iknowthis1 , I suspect a lot of people don't understand what the words they are saying or writing actually mean. Whereas 'rest bite' makes some sort of sense, 'in tack', 'in title', and 'high rate' do not.

Don't get me started on 'going against the grain being used to mean 'going against the flow'.

Fancylike · 20/11/2022 10:50

tillytoodles1 · 19/11/2022 22:41

My SiL had a doll called Penelope that she called Penny-Lope. Even as an adult she still called her that even though she knew it wasn't correct.

My Cabbage Patch doll’s “birth certificate” came with the name Marie Renae. So to six year old me, Mare-eeee Ree-anne.

Fancylike · 20/11/2022 10:53

Brightonbelle87 · 20/11/2022 10:42

My favourite is my manager saying canopies or my MIL saying 'can-apes' for canapés and there's a few sports reporters who say 'making their day-boo' for debut.

There was a presenter on an Australian awards show who referred to a singer making their ‘de-butt’.

inappropriateraspberry · 20/11/2022 10:54

makenomistake · 20/11/2022 09:57

What about the shoe shop "Schuh"?

My youngest pronounces it "scer-huh" and is adamant they are correct!

My friend's grown son always pronounces the group ABBA as separate letters ie "A, B, B, A". He sounds ridiculous but won't change his pronunciation, because everything else gets said like that, ie "B, M, W".

How odd! Back in the day we said Sweb, not S W E B. Also, UNICEF, Nasa, radar, scuba ...
Has he never heard of acronyms?

Benjispruce4 · 20/11/2022 10:54

I used to have an old banger of a Citroen car. It’s model name was Debut and it was an old rust bucket we affectionately referred to it as the De-butt.

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