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To not realise I was saying this wrong...

562 replies

HelloBunny · 19/11/2022 21:50

Stopped on the street today by a lady looking for a shop. She asked for the nearest “Shrov-Ski”.
Explained further that it’s a jewellery shop. I eventually cottoned on that she meant “Swaa-Rov-Ski”
Bit like “hyper-bole” with me as well... (until I heard it said on the News!) And the name “Beat-Rice”.

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masterbakeoff · 20/11/2022 06:58

I'm still non the wiser on Percy-phone. Ho should it be pronounced?!

KimberleyClark · 20/11/2022 07:04

Per-SEFF-o-nee

Saturnsmoon · 20/11/2022 07:10

The most enlightening thing about this thread for me has been Persephone - honestly have been saying it wrong for years - including to a colleague who’s Greek. I do remember her giving me a weird look 😂

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/11/2022 07:11

My Dbro was an avid reader at a very early age, so often came across words he understood from the context, but had never heard spoken.

So he’d say things like, ‘I know it was you, so you needn’t denny it!’

But the family favourite was Gribble-ayter (as in The Rock of….).
We still call it that.

eurochick · 20/11/2022 07:21

Wheredoallthepensgo · 19/11/2022 23:18

@eurochick it's not French, it's Italian. So yes the e is pronounced.

It's both. Not surprising as the two languages have common roots and share many words. I speak French and studied French literature at university. I probably first came across the word there and so have always pronounced it the French way (as apparently do the Americans). I'm surprised that the U.K. has apparently adopted the Italian pronunciation. For historical reasons we Brits have adopted many French words into our vocabulary but very few Italian words that are not food related. I wonder what the reason is.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/11/2022 07:22

@Iseestupidpeople , I cringed to hear in some period TV drama, hearing a minor aristocrat supposedly in the 1800s, saying, ‘If she fell pregnant…’.
I’m fairly ancient and even in the MCs in the 60s you didn’t hear that - people were expecting a baby, or going to have a baby. You didn’t even hear ‘pregnant’ very much in ordinary everyday conversation, let alone ‘falling’.

polkadotpixie · 20/11/2022 07:28

Albeit and Segue both caught me out, I was certain they were all-bite and seeg 🤣

My friend thought Hartlepool was Hart-tull-pool though and she's super clever

Hesma · 20/11/2022 07:30

Your AIBU is??????? Total non-post unless I’m just not getting it.

PuppyMonkey · 20/11/2022 07:34

I’m embarrassed to admit I don’t think I’ve ever needed to say the word Dilettante.Grin

I did once have to ring a lady up whose surname was Featherstonehaugh and was quite shocked that I’d pronounced that COMPLETELY wrong…

Fireballxl5 · 20/11/2022 07:35

eurochick · 20/11/2022 07:21

It's both. Not surprising as the two languages have common roots and share many words. I speak French and studied French literature at university. I probably first came across the word there and so have always pronounced it the French way (as apparently do the Americans). I'm surprised that the U.K. has apparently adopted the Italian pronunciation. For historical reasons we Brits have adopted many French words into our vocabulary but very few Italian words that are not food related. I wonder what the reason is.

The reason is that the Norman invasion meant that William and his french court introduced french to England. Consequently the English language is mainly a badly pronounced variation of french.

TheBoots · 20/11/2022 07:36

Fireballxl5 · 20/11/2022 04:10

Even if Moët is a Dutch name the main reason Moët uses the t sound is because it’s followed by a vowel as in Moët et Chandon.
Most words in any language will be pronounced in the most comfortable way for the user. It’s far easier to insert a consonant between two vowel sounds and trips off the tongue more fluently.
Eg in french Je vais , I’m going, you don’t sound the s.
However Je vais aller, I’m going to go, the s is sounded as it makes it easier to say.

The village of Aslackby is pronounced Azell bee and most locals pronounce Barnoldswick as Bar lick.

French person here, you absolutely do not pronounce the s in "Je vais aller"

Anyonebut · 20/11/2022 07:36

Changechangychange · 20/11/2022 01:39

If you are writing the German word for lion, Löwe, on a keyboard without umlauts, you’d write it “Loewe”. Lurvah.

God knows if the brand is pronounced like that though!

I think Loewe is pronounced in a weird way because it’s a Spanish brand and that’s how a Spaniard would read it phonetically (as with all Spanish words).

ChocBanana · 20/11/2022 07:46

HarlanPepper · 19/11/2022 22:02

I've only just found out that the last "e" in dilettante isn't silent. Luckily it's not a word I say very much.

I cannot think of any situation in my 40-odd years where I have needed to use that word.

xJ0y · 20/11/2022 07:46

felded · 19/11/2022 22:55

Loewe confused me years ago

Thi9s i9s like Moet because its a German or Dutch name but the company is spanish.

xJ0y · 20/11/2022 07:48

I'd say Lo-ebbeh

LightUpTheWoods · 20/11/2022 07:50

When I was 10ish, there was a tv bread commercial with a signing scarecrow who rhymed "calibre" with "fibre". It wasn't until I was 35ish that I realised that this was a false rhyme, and the word was "cal- i - burr" with i as in"it", not "cal-eye-burr".

MrsSchadenfreude · 20/11/2022 08:00

@TheBoots I think that’s a result of badly taught French in U.K. I was taught to pronounce the s, and it wasn’t until I moved to Paris that I was corrected. I still struggle to remember!

KirstenBlest · 20/11/2022 08:00

Not RTFT
Svaroffski - the shrovski is lazy enunciation.
Moët - mo-ett. It's a Dutch surname
L'Occitane - Loxy-tan
Loewe - Lo-eh-veh (but I say Lerner & Loewe as Lurnuh & Low)

I though awry was au-ree until I heard someone say it

Whataretheodds · 20/11/2022 08:05

I pronounced 'segue' as seeg for years!

Btw it's "I was saying this wrongly" not "i was saying this wrong" 😁

Clawdy · 20/11/2022 08:06

I've always pronounced "traumatic" as trow (as in how)matic. But I think everyone I hear now says it as it's spelt.

TheElementsSong · 20/11/2022 08:06

I can provide an explanation for why Menzies = Ming-us!

The Older-Middle Scots language (and also Middle English) had a letter called yogh which looked like a z with a curly tail, and was pronounced rather like a soft “g.” When moveable-type printing arrived in Scotland, printers often used a z in its place because this was more readily available. This explains the now often-mispronounced Scottish names like Menzies, Dalziel and MacKenzie.

Fireballxl5 · 20/11/2022 08:09

TheBoots · 20/11/2022 07:36

French person here, you absolutely do not pronounce the s in "Je vais aller"

Sorry, Michel Thomas has been lying to me then.
How embarrassing.

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/11/2022 08:10

Caplin · 19/11/2022 22:37

It is mo-et, I work for them…

Really? The French pronounce it Mowett.

KirstenBlest · 20/11/2022 08:17

@Mummyoflittledragon , she is saying it as Mo-ett not Mo-ay.
It doesn't have a w sound in it

Benjispruce4 · 20/11/2022 08:24

Albeit. I used to read it as al-bite but knew what it meant from the context of the passage. Then one day it just clicked when hearing it said by a news reporter. Ashamed to say I was a young adult.😮
Have know man the lok-si-tan pronunciation for a while as I love their products and think I asked in the shop.
I thought Swarovski was as written though.