Fed up of businesses aligning themselves with politics!

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I was about to grab a turkey and cranberry sandwich yesterday at a major retailer when I noticed on the package that 5% of that purchase would go to Shelter.

Why are we being increasingly forced nowadays to contribute to causes we may not necessarily agree with in this way? Why don't businesses stick to selling goods? Why the constant virtue signalling? It's annoying

I do not intend to comment on this charity in particular, but I have seen my fair share of pensioners being out of pocket to evict problem tenants who were in a position to pay the rent and look after properties but simply didn't want to and just played the system.

The results of charities activities are not always 100% positive, so customers shouldn't be forced to contribute in this way.

Why do businesses assume that their customers agree with the charities they pick? The constant virtue signalling is patronising and insulting.

Has your church thought of selling sandwiches?

An increasing number of people are savvy about the ethics of businesses these days and will actively support or boycott certain ones based on their actions

So you are able to tell without doubt 100% of what the businesses you support are up to then. Good for you

A 'strong indicator' is not good enough when you have set out to alienate 50% of your customer base, no

What evidence do you have that it's as high as 50%? What research have you done into this and how big was your sample? (I won't hold my breath)

No-one knows 100%. But the charities they choose to raise money for is a good indicator, surely?

As a responsible landlord I am more than happy to support Shelter.

You don't seem to have engaged with the theology involved, despite your mention of being a church goer

I've already said that I would be surprised if any church would support tenants who dodge paying rent when they can afford to. I don't think any church would actively support cheekyfuckery would they?

I try to seek out companies with strong ethical principles that align with my own and avoid others that don't.

So yeah, good for me.

Talking about ethics, quite a lot of shady business goes on behind the scenes at religions. Hope you've done your background checks.

Hmmm... none of the posts have referenced Jesus being on the side of people dodging paying rent when they can afford to.

They have referenced being on the side of the dispossessed and disadvantaged. The people Shelter helps.

As a responsible landlord

So presumably you are ok with other landlords aka people (a lot of whom are 'accidental' as yourself) are put through the ordeal that you have been put through?

@CapMarvel I do too. No Nestle for me, no Wetherspoons, Next etc. and I support small local businesses wherever possible.

For me a company that actively supported Shelter would be a plus, as would many other charities. Like it or not (OP doesn't), people's morals, ethics and beliefs absolutely do support their retail choices in many cases.

Well, yes. Stressful and unfair as it was, it wasn't as stressful and unfair as not being able to afford decent housing. I am a landlord for the benefit of myself and my family, and very lucky to be in that position. I could have sold it instead. It suited us to keep it as a rental.

This is why there are laws around non paying tenants and eviction. Personally I would like to see those strengthened - but not until better protection for tenants for rogue landlords strengthened. The landlord who failed to handle the mould case that killed the 2 year old boy deserves jail.

What evidence do you have that it's as high as 50%? What research have you done into this and how big was your sample?

Going simply by election results, there are many customers who are being alienated by some of the 'opinions' that companies spout for no reason. 30% to 50% maybe? Why would you want to give away 30% of your market?

What "election results"?

What in the name of the milkybar kid are you babbling about?

The landlord who failed to handle the mould case that killed the 2 year old boy deserves jail

Many landlords don't offer mouldy properties, keep them in tip top condition and still have to go though these ordeals.* *

It's like the warning with any investment - the value can go down as well as up. But those in a position to invest are priviledged to have the choice, many people don't

Yes, I did. Because it benefitted me. Otherwise I could have sold, as could your friends.

Many landlords don't offer mouldy properties, keep them in tip top condition and still have to go though these ordeals.

Which is why I would like to see more protection for them re non paying tenants. But as I said, not before the rogues have been sorted out. There are many.

Going simply by election results, there are many customers who are being alienated by some of the 'opinions' that companies spout for no reason. 30% to 50% maybe? Why would you want to give away 30% of your market?

Well, that's not gibberish at all. I asked for actual evidence.

Which companies are losing money from charity tie-ins? And where is the evidence?

We get you don't like it, and have suggested that the companies do it because it increases their profits.

Please provide evidence for an alternative view

But they won’t. What about customers who want to see the business buying from acting in a more ethical way by donating profits to charity. You have 2 customers with opposing needs, both saying “sod the customer” if their way isn’t granted.

wouldnt it be easier if the business could just act how they like and then it be up to the customer to decide whether their interests are aligned and to purchase from them?

I am so confused. Does OP think homelessness charities make the rules on evictions and rehousing?

She and her victimised pauper-pensioner-landlord posse would do better to boycott local government, Margot Ledbetter style.

This has been a delightfully bonkers thread. An OP asking AIBU, the massed voices saying 'yes', the OP saying 'no I'm not'. Theology. Capitalism. The ethics and practicalities of rental properties.

Good night all!

I love threads that lurch so violently between sub topics with posters entirely ignoring different themes between.

So far, OP has shown she is entirely clueless about: religion, data, marketing, investments, ethics, business, housing, landlords, policy. It’s a total joy and wild ride.

@ShirleyPhallus you've got to admire the breadth and depth of OP's cluelessness though. I mean, that takes dedication to achieve.

Yes, all credit to the OP for their ignorance of so many facets of everyday life! And their dedication to insisting that they were right...

I wish I had that self-belief, my earning power would be a great deal higher.