Fed up of businesses aligning themselves with politics!

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I was about to grab a turkey and cranberry sandwich yesterday at a major retailer when I noticed on the package that 5% of that purchase would go to Shelter.

Why are we being increasingly forced nowadays to contribute to causes we may not necessarily agree with in this way? Why don't businesses stick to selling goods? Why the constant virtue signalling? It's annoying

I do not intend to comment on this charity in particular, but I have seen my fair share of pensioners being out of pocket to evict problem tenants who were in a position to pay the rent and look after properties but simply didn't want to and just played the system.

The results of charities activities are not always 100% positive, so customers shouldn't be forced to contribute in this way.

Why do businesses assume that their customers agree with the charities they pick? The constant virtue signalling is patronising and insulting.

They can track sales of different products - and compare the products that have charity/political affiliations before/after that affiliation and against comparable products.

Unless you think the consistent profits of the major supermarkets and retailers are an accident?

They can track sales of different products - and compare the products that have charity/political affiliations before/after that affiliation and against comparable products

There is no way to track this. Do large retailers sell the same sandwich, one with a political affiliation and another without? Can they compare sales in this way? No, then there's no way to track it reliably.

The mote is in the neighbours eye not God's.

And the tenant who stopped paying and trashed the place was one found by a letting agency and paid market rent. Now I go by personal relationship and have a reduced rent as an incentive.

Unless you think the consistent profits of the major supermarkets and retailers are an accident?

Of course they are not an accident. But it has nothing to do with charity or political affiliations

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Think I'll do the same in the morning! I had no idea people thought they were 'deeply problematic' wtf

😂so the major retailers, making a profit year in year out, do it by guesswork? and have dodgy ideological views on charity?

Despite the senior Execs getting multi-million £ salaries and multi-million £ bonusses based on profits?

How about comparing the same sandwich from year to year?

How an earth is anyone this angry about a charity helping the homeless?

Good grief, am not remotely surprised you are religious and you are exactly the reason I dislike religion so much, the blatant hypocrisy of its followers...

so why would they do a charity affiliation that didn't increase profits?

Is there some deep conspiracy to Corrupt Life As We Know It? 😮

Good grief, am not remotely surprised you are religious and you are exactly the reason I dislike religion so much, the blatant hypocrisy of its followers

You've deliberately missed the point of the thread but didn't miss the opportunity to have a go at religion. Nice

There is no way to track this. Do large retailers sell the same sandwich, one with a political affiliation and another without? Can they compare sales in this way? No, then there's no way to track it reliably.

Every major retailer is selling some form of Christmas sandwich from year to year. So yes, it's possible to track year to year what the impact (or otherwise) of charity affiliation is on sales between broadly similar sandwiches. 100% accuracy is not required, this isn't a clinical trial

You're basically saying that because it cannot be tracked with complete scientific accuracy, only with strong indications, it therefore cannot be tracked at all.

Also (for the nth time) charity giving is not political. For most rational people at least.

And I'm also going to donate to Shelter. They might do quite well out of this thread, so thank you, OP!

so why would they do a charity affiliation that didn't increase profits?

Investors and hedge funds demand it apparently. Also marketing agencies telling porkies

yanbu it’s not their business to charge donations on. If they want to help they should take it out of their profits.

Well, we have already discussed the attitude of Jesus towards the dispossessed, and suggested He may be more on the side of the homeless than those poor, suffering landlords.

You don't seem to have engaged with the theology involved, despite your mention of being a church goer.

An increasing number of people are savvy about the ethics of businesses these days and will actively support or boycott certain ones based on their actions.

Nestle being an obvious example of a business I will not give money too. I will however happily spend my money in shops which donate to charities or are active within the local community.

So yes, actually, the ethical outlook of a company can have a very large impact on how profitable they are.

YANBU at all OP. I like to make my own decisions about charitable donations and not end up supporting a charity I deeply oppose e.g. Mermaids just because I want to buy a coffee!

Why would a profit making business continue to pay a marketing company that did not help them increase profits?

Good grief you are ignorant! Of course they track and capture sales and the effectiveness of working with certain charities, I’ve been in these very meetings!

I thank my stars that the members of my friends, family (other than my inlaws who are cut from the same uncharitable cloth as yourself) and members of my church are nothing like you.

Landlords are by definition asset rich.

You're basically saying that because it cannot be tracked with complete scientific accuracy, only with strong indications, it therefore cannot be tracked at all.

A 'strong indicator' is not good enough when you have set out to alienate 50% of your customer base, no

Sales from different years is not good enough. Broadly similar sandwiches is not good enough either

You brought religion into it actually. Am loving that you believe your church doesnt mishandle any money or donations. Lol.

Then buy a coffee somewhere else!

You can make your own decision, you don't shop at places whose practices you disagree with. Easy.

😂😂Please do apply for senior jobs in these companies OP, they are missing a trick not having your insights into how to increase profits!