Printout of cost to NHS

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I don’t think IBU but here goes:

I think every patient should be given a printout of how much their care has cost the NHS.

Every GP visit
Every vaccine for them or their child
Every midwife/health visitor
Every blood test
Every ambulance or A & E visit

I don’t think people have any idea how much their health care costs

At the hospital where I worked, we did a trial with letting people know about drug costs years ago-, in the early days of clinical budgeting. We included the cost price of the medicines on the instructions label.
You can't imagine the chaos. There were people complaining their script cost less than the prescription tax, those who didn't want their medicines as they were too expensive and the NHS couldn't afford it. And then those who compared the cost of their medicines to those of someone else in the clinic or their friends and then complained that they were being over treated/ undertreated.

It didn't make any difference to the amount of unused medicines returned for destructon.
There is another thread about the appointment letters and admin mess ups in another thread on here, which really bought home the problems of trying to charge for missed appointments.

You're going to penalise people who through no fault of their own have long term health conditions. How is that fair?

It's a healthcare system. If it can't move with population needs it needs reforming.

Indeed it does, no government has the appetite for it though so the charade of a functioning service continues on with the support of 'oh our beloved and untouchable NHS'.

❣️our subpar healthcare system

whoever made nhs into emotinal term was genious if their goal was to actually orevent any changes

This time two years ago we were in the November lockdown Despite this the emotional blackmail and guilt tripping not to see family at Christmas had already begun.

And now more guilt tripping. Those of us who said that some people would want to carry on these kinds of tactics post Covid were called conspiracy theorists and told not to be so ridiculous.

I haven’t seen a stark assessment of how much more it will cost for the ageing population.

It feels like smoke and mirrors re what it would take, and also I don’t think political mandate is easy to get

A great many recurve awful service and we need to challenge that - not accept or appreciate

Absolutely, it's very purposefully held up in the way that it is, when the reality is that the premise of a national health service is brilliant, but what we have currently isn't. But if people criticise it or whatever else its very much seen as well what do you want, Americas healthcare system, you should be grateful for the crumbs. The staff should be treated better, more investment in logical and effective services and that would flow down to patients having a better experience.

There's just so many ridiculous things. I do get the point of having trusts- i can see how different areas have different needs etc but bloody hell x number of trusts buying the same thing witn the admin burden and not benefiting from economies of scale etc is baffling for one thing. The different IT used, the fact that a nurse can be signed off in one Trust as capable of doing x procedure in one trust yet if they move to another they can't and have to go through the process again; it's ridiculous. My friend is a nurse, she worked in a settling close to the 'border' of another Trust, she went for a change of job into the new Trust which was mere miles away and faced a mountain of recruitment related stupidity.

It would only put off the people who are already mindful.

And, no disrespect to any staff at all, but it's not a wonderful service, it is critically underfunded.

I'd like to see pubs raise their prices to pay for the cost of a safe night out though. Extra police, ambulance and A&E resource etc.

Absolutely @Guitarbar . You could stab puppies in the morning for sacrifice and you would get less flack than saying stuff against nhs🙈

So many people seem to miss all the other well functioning systems.. it's so annoying when everyone brings up US. Yes, some might want to take it that way, but that's what epections are for....

@memorial erm what? I’m not tarring anyone with anything…am I?
about 80% of doctors who are “struck off” are do for sexual reasons.

if someone wants to show me how much I cost the NHS, I’d like the NHS how much their staff cost the taxpayers- that’s my point

So not do

Many years ago a GP wrote a column in the Times, he said that his computer developed a glitch and showed the true costs of prescriptions, and patients were shocked. Don't know if it was true, but if it could be done it might be a good idea?

Oh and not all prescriptions are free.

Tbf all this showing real costs and making people triple think before not protecting NHS♥️ would probably work in lowering the number of patients.

Anyone fancies starting up funeral services? Might be quite profitable then.

And if prescriptions cost so much it isn’t the publics fault: drug companies and those who agree the prices and sign contracts are.

I pay almost £10 a month for my prescription of Sertraline - which I wouldn’t have to pay if I hadn’t been sexually assaulted by the consultant I referred to above.

or £75 an hour for EMDR..

You are seriously deluded and crazy. How many doctors get struck off ??

My GP surgery used to do this. Frustratingly, they used to include people who had to leave after waiting for an hour as a DNA. It went down like a lead balloon.

@Facecream

@memorial
Heres the GMC published figures for research done in 2014

Key findings
Types of cases
This diagram shows the types of cases and their incidence.
The majority of cases that resulted in suspension or erasure from the medical register were in relation to an incident in a doctor’s working life, but there were some cases in relation to a doctor’s personal life.
For an incident in one’s personal life to have such consequences, we can infer that it must have been extreme. The most common type of case in relation to a doctor’s personal life was ‘sexual issues’ (9 cases) but there were also cases involving drink driving offences (3 cases), dishonesty (3 cases) and violence (1 case). Cases that were in relation to doctors’ personal lives were more likely to be of a criminal nature (6 out of 16) than cases in relation to doctors’ working lives; and were brought to the fore due to a conviction. The police have a duty to report such incidents to the GMC.
Overall, the most common type of case was dishonesty (48 cases), either in order to obtain or keep employment or in the role of a doctor. Good Medical Practice (2013), states that doctors must ‘be honest and open and act with integrity.’ Thus, dishonest conduct constitutes a serious departure from fundamental tenets of GMP and the standards expected of a doctor. This is taken very seriously by Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS) panels.
The second most common type of case was inappropriate relations with both patients and colleagues (24 cases); but most frequently with patients (19 of the cases).
The third most common type of case was clinical issues (19 cases) although there was a further proportion of clinical issues cases that also involved dishonesty and clinical issues together (8 cases), and so we may consider this to be the second most common type of case if we combine the two groups together (which would equate to 27 cases).
A further small proportion of cases were classified as ‘breaking other professional standards’ (4 cases). These cases were varied.

Charming. Crazy and obnoxious. You need help.

Not a whole hour?? Wow. I bet the GP was off playing golf or drinking coffee eh?? Shame on them

Great way to speak to a woman who has been through something so traumatic

Not hard to see how Ian Paterson got away with what he did with the minimization that goes on.