Printout of cost to NHS

[1dontunderstand]

I don’t think IBU but here goes:

I think every patient should be given a printout of how much their care has cost the NHS.

Every GP visit
Every vaccine for them or their child
Every midwife/health visitor
Every blood test
Every ambulance or A & E visit

I don’t think people have any idea how much their health care costs

The point of which would be what? To make me feel shittier about having had a heart attack and having to have everyone do everything for me because I couldn't help myself.

I pay tax and so does my DH ....and pay enough to not have to deal with stupid suggestions like this.

What difference does the year make

you listed the 2014 figures to back up your point

but your own post contradicts your earlier comment

please up your therapy

Shouldn't this information already be available (as otherwise how are the NHS balancing their books?). It would then just be a case of sharing it, but that could be done on a generic averaged basis eg one flu jab costs X (of which some is the cost of the vaccine itself, some the cost to deliver) regardless of the patient receiving it?

I recently booked a gynae appointment. It says on the text to allow 2 hours waiting time.

I remember taking my dad to hospital appointments. He was largely in a trance and didn't notice we had been waiting over an hour. I did as I was stressing about childcare/getting back for school pick up etc.

I realise that this isn't the fault of the clinicians and if someone needs medical help beyond their alloted apt time, then they obviously should be the priority....but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone else has several hours to spare waiting for an apt that bears no resemblance to the time on the letter.

2 hours?
Who the hell has two hours to wait?
Can you imagine paying for this two hour wait?

That's the basic rate. There's extra for every patient with a long term condition and extra on top for doing specific things for them each year. Extra for hitting targets for vaccination, screening and monitoring. Lots and lots of box ticking exercises that earn extra points (money).

The worst is planned surgery. Although of course we must be eternally grateful and not complain, here at least its ludicrous. Given a date but not a time so you sit and wait and half of the people waiting get sent home as emergencies have come in and staff have been diverted. In fact it's madness.

@ApplePieFry
Get yourself some therapy.
You petty, vindictive person

Shouldn't this information already be available (as otherwise how are the NHS balancing their books?). It would then just be a case of sharing it, but that could be done on a generic averaged basis eg one flu jab costs X (of which some is the cost of the vaccine itself, some the cost to deliver) regardless of the patient receiving it?*

Wouldn't sharing the cost of vaccines be counter-productive? The whole point is to encourage people to get them and therefore save the NHS money by not getting flu!

I think a date but not a time for planned surgery is completely fine. Although One of my surgeries I was in the ward from 7:30am having been fasting for hours, only for them to come in at 5pm to say it was cancelled -they couldn’t fit me in (mine was for cancer) and to come back the next day. Obviously, I was very disappointed, but I still thought that was acceptable, though clearly not ideal.

I’m not sure what it would achieve. I use the NHS for a chronic condition (t1 diabetes), for pregnancies and once when I had a massive health failure. I haven’t had a regular GP appointment since I lived in the UK (about 12 years). I know all my care costs a lot but it is necessary so I couldn’t reduce it and yes I am grateful.

People generally use medical care where necessary and those that are time wasters won’t be put off by this.

I think the NHS could save a lot of money if they stopped sending letters for everything.I get one for each appointment. Just email me! (Obviously, send letters to those that need them).

I think we only accept it because its free at point of use so standards are fairly low. Waiting around all day, probably nervous, perhaps unpaid from work or using annual leave, paying to travel there and then waste time sitting there is only okay because the only alternative is usually thought of as being we pay for everything when we use it. There are other ways though, they just require government commiting to change.

I've had a letter in today about booking an appointment. I've been trying to get through all morning. I work. So I've had to hang up when I've had meetings. The last call is 28 minutes on hold thank you for waiting your call will be answered shortly - and counting.

Not to mention how much every smoker who dies prematurely has saved us in pensions and old age care.

Its not free at the point of use if you are waiting on hold on a PAYG mobile

I agree most people dont have any idea of the cost (unless you pay for veterinarian treatment ofc, I remember our vet asking us did we understand how expensive an operation would be as most people are shocked having never paid for treatment themselves) but I don't think this would achieve anything really. Although if the NHS wanted to they could put the costs of treatment on letters they send out, like they do cost of missed appointments

"hey ms Nova
We just wanted to let you know that your bypass costed NHS♥️ 8.5k just for the surgery, then you add 1k for bed and food we kindly provided and 3k for the time you spent on icu due to complications.
Your total cost to nhs for your treatments to do with your born with heart issues is £700,587.

Next time just off yourself

Love, NHS♥️"

That is how letters sent with cost of treatment would sound

I remember my tax law professor saying as a country we’d be stuffed if everyone stopped smoking and drinking not only due to decreased tax revenue but also the massive increase in pension/ care bills.

I have a shitty congenital illness that to the day I die will be a burden to me and the NHS.

Knowing the costs wouldnt help me one bit. Whether I would feel guilty for being costing the country is hard to say. I feel fucked up enough tbh.

As a baby and through to my teenage years I was in-and-out of hospital on more times I could even hazard a guess at.

I guess I owe them more than a pound of flesh.

@bloodywhitecat
If someone had presented me with a breakdown of costs for DH's 'wonderful' care after his last stay in hospital I don't think I would've been responsible for my actions. His 'care' from the start to the finish of his cancer journey fell far short of wonderful and I am now a widow.

Same here but my mum, the care was shoddy, and the GP delays through incompetence which could have contributed to her death, no I would livid with a breakdown of costs.

Whilst we have many great people in the NHS let's not pretend there isn't a lot of incompetence there too. The difference between this and normal jobs is this costs people's lifes.

I guess I owe them more than a pound of flesh.

"Them" who @Lampedsomeoiks . The healthcare system is just that. A healthcare system to ensure people have healthcare. That is it's primary function. You don't own helathcare system pound of flesh, it did what it is supposed to.
If you are talking about some great doctors and nurses, that's different, but it's their job afterall so while gratitude for job well done and kidness is totally fine, you still don't own them pound of flesh😉

I think the mh impact makes it a no goer

People will feel awful and lack control over it anyway, poor mh costs more eventually

To add to further accounts of poor treatment.

My mum nearly died of appendicitis due to the utter incompetency and negligence of numerous doctors and nurses.

She was fobbed off as having a stomach bug until two weeks later she was hospitalised with pain that even morphine would not touch. She was writhing around on the floor all whilst nurses stood around not calling for a doctor. I was told off for bringing flowers to her room however.

It got to 1am where a registrar had to force a consultant to operate. This is where they found 2 litres of poison.

How she didn't die is a miracle. And then to top it an ICU nurse wouldn't give her a drink as she was "too busy".

Figure of speech.

And I don't have much positivity to exude and bestow to those that did what they did to me plus how they referenced me (I obtained all medical notes 0-18 years). I can't and won't go into specifics due to the nature of what it was and the fact it would possibly help to identify me due to the rarity etc.

You absolutely don't have to. Understandable!
Yeah, some people genuinely would believe they are forever debted to the health service, so just wanted to make sure 😁