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To care more that Matt Hancock cheated on his wife than disregarded his own Covid guidance

104 replies

therebemaggots · 12/11/2022 07:36

I don't watch I'm a Celebrity, but I have read this BBC article: Matt Hancock asks for forgiveness
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63604403

When he said he "fell in love", did any of his fellow contestants point out that he had a wife and kids, who were probably more traumatised by his humiliation than he was, because they lost a husband and father? I wonder if they are now watching the show with forgiveness in mind?

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Croque · 12/11/2022 12:25

I don't think anybody else would have got it right either. It was an impossible set of circumstances moving at a speed nobody could keep up with and heading further and further into the unknown. He could have made things better by honouring his pledges and putting the affair on the backburner but he could still have got it completely wrong.

HappyHamsters · 12/11/2022 12:32

He didnt act alone in the covid decisions, hopefully the inquiry will answer some questions, thats the trouble with having senior politicians running departments they know nothing about, a health secretary needs to be medically or scientifically trained.

KilmordenCastle · 12/11/2022 12:44

hamstersarse · 12/11/2022 08:56

The thing about the rules though…..people were literally screaming at The Tories to implement these rules (some people still are!). They were calling them murderers for ‘not locking down soon enough’ and it went on for over a year!

It seems so strange that people are cross about the rules they were demanding from those in power. I don’t think Boris ever wanted to lock down, but imagine the uproar if he hadn’t. And now….people are cross about the rules.

Hurts my head

Absolutely this!

Personally I don't have much hate for Matt Hancock. I think he was inept at his job and in way over his head during the pandemic. He just wasn't up to the job, but then I don't think any of them were really up to the job. He made stupid decisions that had big ramifications but I don't think any of it was through malice, he was just a self serving idiot in a job that really needed to be done by someone smarter.

I couldn't care less about his affair or breaking of the rules. I didn't stick to the rules myself so it would be a bit hypocritical of me to complain about that.

FrodisCapering · 12/11/2022 12:49

I don't care about his affair in the slightest. It's a matter of morality and it's neither here nor there.

I do care that he broke a law that we were all expected to live by at the time.

butterfliedtwo · 12/11/2022 12:52

KissTheHostGoodbye · 12/11/2022 09:07

I dont give one crap about his love life. Fellow jungle mates I'm sure have done worse. I do care about people dying alone, limited numbers at funerals and lack of PPE. He should not be in there and it's a bad decision by ITV just for viewing figures.

This.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 12/11/2022 13:04

People fall out of love for all sorts of reasons, affairs happen.

It isn’t really anyone outside of the relationships busines or job to forgive.

In comparison to boy George he is saintly.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 12/11/2022 13:05

I care that he stopped people being with their loved ones on their death bed and prevented extended families from being together. Cost people jobs/businesses while he's putting his mouth on and shagging some women. I'm sure I'm not alone in despising the I'm a toff and . I was born with a diamond spoon in my mouth so you'll do as I say not as I do.
The C U Next Tuesday

MaybeSmaller · 12/11/2022 15:11

hamstersarse · 12/11/2022 08:56

The thing about the rules though…..people were literally screaming at The Tories to implement these rules (some people still are!). They were calling them murderers for ‘not locking down soon enough’ and it went on for over a year!

It seems so strange that people are cross about the rules they were demanding from those in power. I don’t think Boris ever wanted to lock down, but imagine the uproar if he hadn’t. And now….people are cross about the rules.

Hurts my head

Absolutely this. The Government's original policy was voluntary social distancing (like Sweden which coincidentally has one of the best health outcomes of any country in the pandemic). They never wanted to introduce coercive lockdowns and criminalisation of everyday life - that would have seemed absolutely nuts even as late as February 2020. It was public demand, amplified by the media and especially social media, which made them U-turn.

I hated the lockdowns at the time, and hate them even more now that it's clear how much damage they caused. But the idea that Hancock and his pals imposed lockdown on a totally unwilling population - or that they could have, even if they wanted to - is absurd. This isn't China.

JenniferBooth · 12/11/2022 15:22

I care more about abuse of which gaslighting is a part of Hancock came out with the "it was just guidance" spiel again. So why the fuck were people being fined then and why are they still being taken to court if it was only guidance.

MarshaBradyo · 12/11/2022 15:23

MaybeSmaller · 12/11/2022 15:11

Absolutely this. The Government's original policy was voluntary social distancing (like Sweden which coincidentally has one of the best health outcomes of any country in the pandemic). They never wanted to introduce coercive lockdowns and criminalisation of everyday life - that would have seemed absolutely nuts even as late as February 2020. It was public demand, amplified by the media and especially social media, which made them U-turn.

I hated the lockdowns at the time, and hate them even more now that it's clear how much damage they caused. But the idea that Hancock and his pals imposed lockdown on a totally unwilling population - or that they could have, even if they wanted to - is absurd. This isn't China.

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Exactly, you only have to see the topic on here the huge demands for it. It’ll all be there if anyone wonders why people wanted lockdown despite the damage.

ilovesooty · 12/11/2022 15:39

luxxlisbon · 12/11/2022 09:06

To care more that Matt Hancock cheated on his wife than disregarded his own Covid guidance

You are being unreasonable, what someone does in their political life as a politician is a lot more important than what they do in their private life. Cheating is not illegal.
The reality is people cheat all the time, I’m not saying it’s not shitty but you actually have no idea what’s going on in his family life. His children didn’t lose a father because the parents split up.

Its depressing that people put something like this, which is actually just none of their business, above political failings.

I agree. I care much more than his political activities than his personal ones.

Figgygal · 12/11/2022 15:45

I couldn't give a shite about his private life other than the hypocrisy
The complete incompetence which resulted in people dying and him lining the pockets of his cronies with dodgy dealings should have him locked up not cavorting on tv seeking sympathy
Fuck him

ilovesooty · 12/11/2022 15:53

roarfeckingroarr · 12/11/2022 10:57

I couldn't care less about his Covid rules or party gate.

His turning his wife and kids' lives upside down makes him a grade A bastard

You know nothing about his personal life and the state of his marriage apart from what you read in the media. His political activities and decisions, and those of the government (it wasn't just him) affected far more people.

As far as I can see the activities of some of his fellow contestants have been more reprehensible than what he did in terms of his marriage.

walkinginsunshinekat · 12/11/2022 15:55

EmeraldShamrock1 · 12/11/2022 13:04

People fall out of love for all sorts of reasons, affairs happen.

It isn’t really anyone outside of the relationships busines or job to forgive.

In comparison to boy George he is saintly.

Really? BG went to jail for what he did and under the rehabilitation of offenders act should be given a 2nd chance (in most instances)

Whereas, regardless of what any inquiry finds, Hancock and the rest of them, will not face any punishment or sanction - what came of the Chilcott inquiry? waste of time and money.

The release of infected patients into CH's was criminal and done purely, because as a private setting, wouldn't bring about the film we saw from Italy, leaving Hancock etc to claim "The NHS didn't collapse"

No warnings or sufficient PPE to CH's, even in 2021, carers weren't getting enough PPE.

Put a protective arm around CH's???? Terrible man.

Moomieboo · 12/11/2022 15:57

I'm a member of his constituency. I've written to him several times since Covid. We have a severely disabled child and we couldn't get any PPE either..... things we desperately needed. A week later our social worker turned up with everything we needed.
Recently our boy cannot carry his feeding pump after a long illness. If he first mobilise he gets ill, he can't mobilise as his feeding pump is too heavy. It causes lesions on his shoulders which become infected.
I've written to lovely Matt several times in the past year. His secretary has written back. Hopefully he's donating some of his fee to give some of his most vulnerable constituents thier basic needs to survive !! Fingers crossed eh Matt !!!

ilyx · 12/11/2022 16:08

Two of them are drunk drivers, one kidnapped a poor man, one is a tax dodger (Moyes) and that’s just the stuff we know about.

feellikeanalien · 12/11/2022 16:21

I think he's obviously a twat in both his personal and working lives. There is something a bit creepy about him.

I also think some of the others are absolute hypocrites. I really went off Sue when she told Seann that his girlfriend should have kept her mouth shut. Then she went on to say that "poor Seann" had obviously had a hard time of it.

Both SW and MH are saying they were sorry but I'm not getting any genuineness from either of them.

I just wish someone would get Seann to do a trial as I'm finding the "Matt Show" trials a bit boring now.

I love Scarlette and I really want her to win.

coodawoodashooda · 12/11/2022 16:56

Wheatandchaff · 12/11/2022 07:42

Everyone going nuts about Hancock. But weird how no one is talking about the dirty pasts of the other celebrities. Lots of people on here was saying that Boy George should be forgiven for keeping a young man captive, but happy to hang Hancock out to dry over his affair. No talk about Moyles and his awful tax evasion? The drunk driving from Sue Cleaver? Where’s your anger about that? No your pissy about Hancock because he had an affair.

Id rather someone cheat on his wife than all of the above. Hancock is a prick and has behaved terribly, but it makes no sense to pick on him whilst ignoring all the other tossers in there. Ridiculous to give money and a platform to all this lot. Yet you’re watching.

I wondered this too.

JenniferBooth · 12/11/2022 17:16

tier 4 which was lockdown in all but name
www.mumsnet.com/talk/coronavirus/4113216-So-angry-about-Christmas?page=1

mumofgirl1 · 12/11/2022 17:35

hamstersarse · 12/11/2022 08:56

The thing about the rules though…..people were literally screaming at The Tories to implement these rules (some people still are!). They were calling them murderers for ‘not locking down soon enough’ and it went on for over a year!

It seems so strange that people are cross about the rules they were demanding from those in power. I don’t think Boris ever wanted to lock down, but imagine the uproar if he hadn’t. And now….people are cross about the rules.

Hurts my head

This is exactly my thoughts!! Also people up and down the country where breaking the rules left right and centre I lost count of how many snap chat stories I seen with people having kitchen partys unfortunately for so it was an extended holiday for them. I worked right through the pandemic pregnant up until I went off on mat leave in the September while managing a care home. We closed our doors before being told to, didn't take hospital admission or use agency staff and the home managed to remain covid free. I honestly couldn't care less he had an affair

JenniferBooth · 12/11/2022 17:42

Those people around the country werent making the rules.
But thanks for confirming that there are still people around who think you can stop a virus.

HotPenguin · 12/11/2022 17:51

Tbh I think the whole programme is just a cynical way for third rate celebs who have shamed themselves to try and restart their careers, I can't believe people are so stupid as to lap up this pile of shite.

MarshaBradyo · 12/11/2022 17:55

roarfeckingroarr · 12/11/2022 10:57

I couldn't care less about his Covid rules or party gate.

His turning his wife and kids' lives upside down makes him a grade A bastard

I couldn’t care less about partygate, and his affair is his own life issue to sort, but I do care restrictions and lockdown caused so much damage. Although I put that to public demand - and the systems set up in a way to minimise harms

PinkTonic · 12/11/2022 18:07

Monsterpage · 12/11/2022 09:03

This.

my darling mum died in a hospice and we were only allowed to spend an hour a day with her in her last week of life. wearing masks and other PPE, we couldn’t touch her or hold her hand and had to sit away from the bed.

everyday I think about that and how we were desperate to be with her (we knew she was dying of cancer) we lived and slept in our cars in the hospice car park so we could be there quickly when we got the call when they thought she was “about to go”.

it is the cruellest of cruel things to do to families. We were desperate to be with her but we were following the rules of the land.

i will live with the feeling of letting down my darling mum and not being there to tell her we loved her in the last hours and days of her life - because we did and do still love her. It keeps me awake at night and haunts my dreams.

Yet Hancock wanted his woman and got her, because he fell in love - oh that’s ok then cos none of us weeping for our dead relatives understand love! hey!

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My beloved mother died in hospital in 2011 and spent the last two weeks of her life alone and in confusion due to a bladder infection with no visitors or anyone around who would believe that she was normally in full possession of her faculties. I believe she wouldn’t have died if I had not been prevented from attending to her due to Norovirus. Who should I blame?