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AIBU to say something to my sister or should I butt out

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Ballygoforwards · 08/11/2022 21:20

My sister is in her early 30s. She had a child at a relatively young age (25) and subsequently went back to university and did a degree and masters. She worked part time to fund the degree and masters. She split up from her DC’s father but he gives her the required amount of child support.
This whole time, she has lived rent free with my parents.
A couple of years ago she met someone else and they are engaged. Between them they earn 6 figures. Maybe £120k ish.
He has also moved in with my parents. They often go to his parents when her child spends the weekend with said child’s dad.
They continue to live rent free. They don’t contribute to bills, they have their meals cooked daily. All washing gets done for my sister and her DC. My parents also do drop off and pick up for their grandchild every day.
My sister tells me they’re saving up to buy a house but they live in an extremely expensive city and housing stock is low. They’re also very picky about the areas in which they’re willing to buy. They don’t want to rent as it’s “a waste of money”, believing that renting won’t allow them to save to buy something as quickly than as if they live with my parents.
This whole situation enrages my other sibling and me. My parents aren’t old but they should be out enjoying life and travelling the world; instead they’re doing the majority of my sister’s childcare and spending their pension on bills for 5 people. They’re fairly affluent but it all adds up.
Meanwhile my sister is saving a huge deposit to buy a place “at some point” but also spends plenty on nice holidays, brand new iPhone, £20k engagement ring (incidentally, this caused their home insurance premiums to rise. Guess who doesn’t contribute to their insurance premiums, or indeed their health insurance premiums) etc etc.

On the other hand, my other sibling works for the NHS, lives in an even more expensive city than the rest of my family and rents a one bedroom flat with her partner. They’d love to be able to save to buy something and work all sorts of extra shifts to try and out something aside but it’s not realistic given their outgoings and low income.

If it were up to me! my sister should move out with her child and fiancé into a rented property and continue to save albeit more slowly slowly and sacrifice a few of the luxuries. She should also put her child in wraparound care. My parents are then free to live their lives, helping out occasionally but their own terms.

Here’s my AIBU. My parents don’t seem to object to the status quo. It’s more that my other sibling and me are annoyed on their behalf. So AIBU to say something to my sister? Or my parents? Or should I mind my own business and butt out since none of the people involved seem to be unhappy with the situation.

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Ballygoforwards · 09/11/2022 14:50

potniatheron · 09/11/2022 13:06

Look at it long term. At some point her ageing parents will require care. Whether carried out by you the children of carried out by carers and paid for by you the children.

When that time comes it will be more than fair to expect your sister to take on the lion's share of that. After all you live abroad but she has lived rent free and kept her parents company all these years.

You can visit your parents when you wish but not have the huge physical, emotional and financial burden of providing long term care.

Therefore, You will be grateful for the current dynamic in the future.

Excellent point, although my other sibling thinks that my sister will want to move to her fiance's home town as soon as her DC has started uni. Admittedly that's 10 years down the line, but I still don't think my sister taking on the lion's share of the "burden" of my parents' care in old age is a done deal based on the current situation alone.

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Ballygoforwards · 09/11/2022 14:54

Ingrainedagainstthegrain · 09/11/2022 13:39

They would probably do the same for you.

I have no doubt whatsoever that they would. I just wouldn't ask.
They've always been there for all of us, irrespective of whatever support we've needed. As it happens, I needed the least support but that's irrelevant as I'm glad our parents are able - and happy - to support us all.
By the way, I had no issues when my sister was back at uni and her DC was little. She needed the support and got it and has done well as a result of that support and her hard work.
But now that she has got a great job, is with someone who lives her and her DC and also has a great job, she doesn't "need" their support. But she's taking it anyway. I don't think it's fair on them. That's all.

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Ballygoforwards · 09/11/2022 14:55

MimiSunshine · 09/11/2022 12:54

Rather than talking to your dad or raising it’s a an issue with your sister. How about having a “conspirators” conversation with her.
give her a call to check in on your parents, ask how things are there from a cost of living perspective, ask her what the energy bills are like and how are they all feeling about it.
say, “you know mum and dad never like to say anything, but as the sister who is there and sees them daily, how are they actually doing, are bills going up?”

position it as if you believe she’s a fully contributing member of the household and maybe she’ll have a ‘come to Jesus moment’ about her lack of contribution.

Ultimately they are utterly taking the piss. A couple earning £120k between them with next to no commitments mean they should have been able to buy a place within a year or two of saving up.

I will absolutely do this the next time I see her, thank you.

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Lullabies2Paralyze · 09/11/2022 15:02

It’s possible your sister once offered to pay your parents and they turned her down. Now her circumstances have changed and she is clearly more affluent but it might not have occurred to her to offer again

personally I think they’re both at fault. Your parents are being soft to not say anything and your sister is being cheeky to not pay or help out at home (as it sounds like she doesn’t from what you say).

id either stay out of it or raise the subject with your sister and parents at the same time coz it’s clearly something they need to sort out together.

TomTraubertsBlues · 09/11/2022 17:15

If the OP sits down with the sister and parents and tells them that they've all been doing their financial setup wrong, that will not go down well. 😂

The parents are grown ups. They know what this arrangement is costing them in time and money, and they are going along with it.

The sister is clearly a competent adult. She knows full well that life costs money, and that she has got a very good deal right now.

Nobody is in the dark, waiting to be enlightened by the OP.

Homewardbound2022 · 09/11/2022 19:26

I'm with you, OP.
This would enrage me too.
They are leeches and scroungers and should be ashamed.
The fiancé prob thinks he's struck gold.
But, to avoid a massive falling out, I'd be tempted to keep schtum, although it would go massively against the grain.

Homewardbound2022 · 09/11/2022 19:28

Good idea @MimiSunshine

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