Why are some NHS staff unkept looking?

[BoozySuzie]

I don't visit hospitals often thank goodness but I can't help but notice a lot of staff in hospitals are quite scruffy. Surely working in a hospital environment it is imperitive to be spotlessly clean and well groomed?? The Philipino nurses always look clean and tidy it's just our staff.

Yes NHS manager I would love to see you answer chesirekitty's question. Do you promote safe nurse patient ratios at your hospital to prevent complications, deaths, infections and complaints?

1 RN to 6 on medical and 1 to 4 on surgical is safe. You surpass these ratios and you become dangerous. You need 1:1 in ITU. There are enough qualified nurses to pull these ratios off. We could start by hiring some of the thousands of recent nurse grads who cannot find jobs thanks to your brilliant recruitment freeze idea.

Just look at all the research out there. I'll sum it up for you right here. It is cost effective to have more RN's, having moe HCA's rather than RN's is not safe, and too many hospital managers are dangerous murdering fucktwits.

This should be mandatory reading for NHS managers:

www.nursingadvocacy.org/faq/short-staffed.html

The infections, the suffering, the crap is mostly down to their policies and their bowing down to their NHS overlords in government.

By the way I am a size 10 and always look fantastic.

Believe it or not Meemar, it matters to many patients and their relatives. We know because of what they tell us either in person or in writing. They are our customers and it behoves us to address their concern.

It is a contentious issue and we endeavour to address it with care and sensitivity but as a profession, one should expect certain standards.

Unfortunately, people often equate sloppy appearance with sloppy work. It may not be true in many cases but the association is there.

If you read anything today NHS manager please read this.

www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/01/californias_nur.html

Does your trust provide nurses with uniforms? Ours has stopped supplying and repairing ours and forbids us from buying our own.

(Some nhs managers are HR people in disguise. Black hearts. Beware)

AnneMayer, you obviously have issues and screaming obscenities does nothing to enhance your argument.

I'll bow out now.

Yeah just use the fact that I used one bad word (and how exactly did I "scream" it) to not answer my question about uniforms and ratios.

Typical.

i am slim and tidy

where is my fucking apology

Oh stop it nailpolish apparantly if you use one bad word you are "screaming obscenities".

nailpolish!!!! HELLLLOOOOOOO!
knew you would be on here, you scruffy tart!

marne - I am swooning at your scruffy anaesthetist. I fell in love with the guy who gave me my epidural, and I don;t even know what he looked like AND he only managed to make it work down one side.

Careful nhs - you don't want to slip into the aloof HR language too early on in a debate. You have to do quite a bit of the sensible, detached listening and nodding first.

Last word.

We supply our staff with the uniforms they need and as I said earlier, our staffing ratios comply with the standard nursing:patient ratios.

Patient safety is our number 1 priority and everything we do is to ensure that the patient experience is a satisfying one. Patients our our customers and we are there to serve their needs.

Boozy, sorry, but I'm not convinced. You only post a minute or two after every one of 'nhsmanager's posts.

Customers, my arse.

You're not running a restaurant, 'manager'.

I suggest you focus your attention on cutting salaries for managers and pen-pushers so you can put real cleaners back on the wards before tackling the looks issue.

Just be told, you lot. The NHS (or any other organisation large enough to have HR people) is not there to support, praise and retain staff, regardless of any weasly words. OK?

that's just my opinion, as a customer and all.

my safety as a patient is compromised by dirty wards because staff cuts have effected cleaners, not how groomed my doctor, nurse or midwife is.

oh hello donbean!

yes i can be scruffy on shift, but it doenst AFFECT my work

in my pockets of my uniform i carry
one tourniquet
one jotter
one staff card
one tricolour pen (ok ya)
one hairband
one lipgloss
one touche eclat
a packet of polos
a mini torch

that says it all really

professional AND beautified

happy now?

The standard nurse/patient ratios in the NHS are a joke NHS manager and you know it. Staff cannot do their jobs properly when they are spread between too many patients. More than 5 for one RN is too many according to the research.

expat, you are not a customer unless management tell you you are a customer.

oh god i adore anaesthetists

they are a breed apart form doctors

let's see, whom what i want caring for me on the ward: nailpolish or 'nhsmanager'?

um, no contest.

get real boozy/nhsmanager - did you got to business school to learn jargon like that?

i'll do it expat.i'll do it!
I carry sweeties in my pockets.

expat i possibly love you

i adore anaesthetists, too! they have all the best dope, they always give me nice pre-ops and fun stuff to breathe and make sure i stay fast asleep or feeling no pain .

honestly, though, of all the things that need fixing in the NHS, people are worried about weight, eating habits and looks of caregivers.

i mean, for real?!

if i had a dime for every doctor/climbing partner of mine who would fail a drug test (weed), i'd be rich .

NHS Manager post reminds me of the glorious letter sent by the head of the NHS sometime last year, who said that despite the budget cuts the NHS was working better than ever...

For a moment I thought, taking a look around and seeing such a huge number of severely overworked staff near their breaking point...