… about the car lights?

[Lindalightson]

NC because I don’t want the world to know the extent of my and DP’s petty squabbles. 😀

DP and I share a car. There’s an setting for the headlights, so they come on automatically as it gets dark or in low-light situations.

I always leave the lights on automatic, so I don’t have to think about them. DP has started turning them off. I asked if he could leave them on automatic, so I wouldn’t accidentally drive off in the dark with no lights. He said he couldn’t. I asked why. He said it’s just the way he was brought up (!).

I asked him why he couldn’t do this for me, as I couldn’t see what difference it would make to him. He said if I mentioned it again, he’d get out of the car and I could drive home. FINE! I said. And so he did. And so I did. And when I got home, I left the lights on the automatic setting, just to show him.

Leaving aside the ridiculous pettiness of our argument, who is BU about the lights?

Who the hell are you to tell others who can post and who cannot.

Also who told you I have never ridden a bike. Clown learn to ride properly yourself 🙄. May be you need to be more aware of your own riding rather than blame others for your own impatience.

But you'll be the twit driving along thinking you're OK but you're really not!! You're judgment of dark is not another's, just flip your lights to auto, it will save your life one day. Don't be a massive dick over a tiny amount of control.

May be some one should put a fog light on your high horse so you can get of it.🙄

👏 ha ha 😆

I always have my lights on auto and I'm clever enough to manage to turn my fog lights on if needs be.

How do you figure that one? I know when I had automatic headlights I often over rode them because they didn’t come on soon enough.

any driver should be able to note the conditions and act appropriately even if that means overriding an automatic setting.

I always have my lights on auto and I'm clever enough to manage to turn my fog lights on if needs be.

Exactly this.

You need to education home that your lights run of the alternator when the engine is running not the battery perhaps?

Always have automatic on, I like that the headlamps come on in the dark when I unlock the car. And the lights come on as I drive into a multi storey car park.
Fog lights, I am able to think ‘oh it’s foggy’ and turn them in if need be.

I don't think he's being unreasonable. You aren't unreasonable to use the auto function but you are unreasonable to be arsey about it when you could just switch auto back on when you get in the car just like you adjust seats and mirrors.

I know lots of people who don't use auto headlights for various reasons. I took ages to get used to not turning the headlights off manually when I turned off the ignition, I was using my auto lights but switching them off manually out of habit. If you drive different cars it can be easier not to rely upon them rather than trying to remember whether this car has them and how they work (some are much more sensitive).

There is also a battery issue. Good practice is to have all lights off before you switch on the engine to avoid over working the battery. Unlikely to be an issue on a modern car unless the battery is close to death but people have this stuff drummed into them when they are new drivers or have an old car and struggle to forget.

My DH doesn't use the auto interior light in his car because it has a time delay and he doesn't trust that it will switch off 🙄 not a big deal and certainly not worth falling out over.

I'd hope anyone driving in the dark or bad conditions would have the gumption to check their lights were on.

Is this the time to mention it isn't a fog light but a rear intensity light??

Far too many people use them when visibility isn't poor enough which is more dangerous as it makes brake lights less obvious.

Is this the time to mention it isn't a fog light but a rear intensity light??

Probably because everyone knows what’s meant by ‘fog light’ and there’s front ones too. Even the handbook states ‘fog lights’.

But your name is Herbie

I don't think either of you are unreasonable.
I understand your DH wanting to be in charge of the lights.
We find our car makes the lights dip too late, imagine a dark bendy road. Invariably, one can sense another car coming in the opposite direction and dip before the car comes into sight. Our car's lights don't do that, they wait until the car is within sight. Often too late not to dazzle.
Also, our car's automatic lights dip suddenly if we just drive past a house with its lights on, nothing to do with the road.
Agree to disagree on this one and just adjust lights according to who is driving.

My cars auto lights don't dip or undip that part is manual.

Yes my full beam is entirely controlled by me, if that was an automatic function I’d want to turn it off.

No one here is talking about full beam.

Liebig

No, my list doesn't explain why the Range Rover didn't have its fog lights on.

Fog lights are separate to normal lights in most cars.
Automatic lights are to do with the normal headlights, not the fog lamps.

So, the automatic lights thing has nothing at all to do with the driver not using his/her fog lights.

I don't know anyone personally who believes that having automatic lights and automatic wipers means that the rest of their car is somehow all automatic.

You must know some incompetent drivers I assume.

Most of the drivers I know are very much capable of knowing which parts of their car are auto and which aren't. 🤷‍♀️

I’ve had this exact same argument. It’s hard to see the lights switch because it is tucked behind the steering wheel.

I've got a 18 yr old car .its not new technology

Apologies, I meant flounced. If you have fully auto headlamps you are not fog lamp compliant.

Like most competent drivers I am sure the OP knows how to switch her fog lamps on and flick the auto light switch to manual.
In most cars the switch between auto and manual is on the wheel or stalk so takes less than a second to do.

So yes, I suspect she is as capable as you are to be fog map compliant,

You seem to struggle with the idea that most drivers are capable of using auto for their normal day to day driving but still know how to use the normal lights/fog lamps, etc when the weather/road conditions require them.

My car is all automatic. It's electric and most aspects of my car can be made automatic. This is the setting I have it in ordinarily. But if the road/weather/journey conditions required something that doesn't happen as I want it it's a simple flick of a switch, stalk or button to change it and rectify that - it's just as easy as in a car without the automatic options.

*What bit of this don't you understand?

If your headlights aren't on your foglights won't work.*

Which bit don't you understand?

Turning on the lights, at the same time as fog lamps, is just as easy in a car with auto lights as it is in one without.

I can only assume you've never driven a car with the options so don't understand how it can all work at the flick of a switch/button.