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3 Hour Blackouts

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pyjamafashionista · 03/11/2022 22:19

If they happen, they are saying they'll be planned between 4-7pm. Surely this is the most ridiculous time, when most people will still be at work/ travelling home/making tea etc.
Any genius thoughts to get through a 3 hour blackout besides blankets and 🕯
I feel really sad for vulnerable people on their own if it happens 😪

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etulosba · 04/11/2022 10:22

How the fuck do you know its only a 3 hour power cut?

Have you read read the title of the fucking thread?

kingtamponthefurred · 04/11/2022 10:23

Teeshirt · 04/11/2022 06:18

I work from home in the evenings. But I have aPC with special software and firewalls. We aren’t allowed laptops, so no way can I decamp somewhere else to work.

So do I but I'm not worried. It will be my employer's problem to sort out, not mine.

MegGriffinshat · 04/11/2022 10:30

MrPoppysParka · 03/11/2022 23:57

Sadly not. In some cases possibly but I am a manager and am needed at core US hours.

Dh in the same position but honestly, they will understand. It’s not like you can do anything about it.

Bestcatmum · 04/11/2022 10:35

I use aot of candles...pagan, live in Glastonbury lol. Buy pillar candles and put them in a sturdy candle lantern. Ikea sells cheap ones. They can also be hung from wall brackets. They are much safer, unlikely to be k coked over by kids or pets and can be hung out of reach.
I'd never have an unguarded candle because I have cats.

Ihatethenewlook · 04/11/2022 10:39

3 hour blackouts to me would mean a number of rare and exotic animals dying of cold in their incubators. I’m paying a ridiculous amount of money to keep them alive now as it is. ATM I have no idea what I’m going to do. I’m going to start researching generators today, though I’m completely clueless about them

MegGriffinshat · 04/11/2022 10:39

For most people it will be manageable. I have no idea what the contingency would be for households that rely on electricity for medical equipment and it will be potentially catastrophic for people with dementia living alone (my father is in a care home, but if he was in his own home with carers visiting, he wouldn’t understand or remember times for planned blackouts and it would have been very distressing and probably very dangerous).

I have a friend who is really worried about food, what to eat, how to heat it. It’s 3 hours. It’s okay to go for three hours without food, or to eat cold food or snacks. She was very concerned that they usually eat dinner at 6 and the children have a bath at 6:45. One of our friends gently pointed out that doing those things an hour later won’t harm anyone.

My dh works from home - work will obviously just have to understand won’t they. It’s not like it won’t affect everyone.

There are people who have got caught up in the panic. It would be for three hours and not everyday.

For most people it will be okay.

Not that it should be happening but that’s another conversion.

kateandme · 04/11/2022 10:40

First stage of protecting us from blackouts is rolling out now.
Electric companies are offering insentives for people to use less electric at peak times. This is the first stage of trying to hault or lessen the blackouts. So if anyone feels able to do this then do so.

RedToothBrush · 04/11/2022 10:42

Alexandra2001 · 04/11/2022 10:09

@RedToothBrush There is every possibility of electricity cuts this winter.
We have almost no storage, so in real terms have to import gas & electricity during the winter, so we'd better hope Europe has a mild winter.... thats the only way we'll avoid it.

We are being helped enormously by the EU/Europe as they've boosted storage and have several months worth of gas, prices have even dropped.

Dynamic pricing is being run by National Grid..as a trial, with support from 3 energy companies... must have a smart meter too.

Yes is possible.

No its still not a given. And there is every chance it won't happen.

Even if it does happen, its likely to be limited in duration and scope. It is liable to be a week, two at a push. And not necessarily nationwide.

It absolutely is a case of media frenzy on this one.

We are in Millenium Bug territory on this one. You contigency plan so it doesn't happen. The Millenium Bug didn't happen, so people believe there was no problem, but there was no problem because the correct contingency planning was in place.

When it comes to critical infrustructure, fail safe black up plans are essential as part of responsible goverance. The fact we are seeing it, and the government are openly talking about it being a potential issue and there being so proper planning for it rather than simply saying 'no we will be fine' is a) reassuring despite the optics b) what should be happening if the risk is being taken seriously.

Here's the thing - 3% of the gas we imported was Russian, so our exposure to the problem is much more limited. Yes there is increased competition for demand of whats left but we had secure contracts for most of that, and what it means is we will pay through the nose for it, but we can still get it. This isn't the case in other places in the EU which makes it more complex for them. Reasonably we can reduce our consumption as a nation by considerably more than 3% with better efficiency WITHOUT the need to disconnect households. A lot of the rhetoric about cuts/prices is actually driving that behavioural shift anyway (those behavioural scientists who monitored covid are keeping themselves busy)

Where there is an increased danger of an issue is through a black swan type of event - this is where risk is stacked and why there is so much more need for contigency planning this year, perhaps more than others.

For example: We know that there was a stand off between the Norweigen navy and the Russian navy over the gas pipeline that supplies the UK from Norway. We know that the Russians DID successfully sabotage the Nord Stream pipe (which they'd switched off supply to several countries for already). And its difficult to patrol such a large area so there is a real risk of a sabotage.

Or if there is some sort of failure in the system either here or abroad, there are far less contigencies to source energy from alternative sources, thus making energy security more vulnerable. This is possible due to our aging infrastructure but can largely be managed and has been looked at.

A example of a black swan which is perhaps more probable here in the UK could be an extreme weather event, and if we have issues thats where they could hit us. (A very cold spell - which would ordinarily potentially cause outages, is more risky this year).

But as it stands, we have infrustrature which is aging but we should have enough capacity, if demand is down. Which its is. Several electricity generating facilities that were due to be decommissioned have had urgent reviews and they are being kept on line for slightly longer to add depth to our ability to supply energy.

Everyone should be permenantly prepared for a possible electricity cut anyway, as they happen and can't 100% be prevented.

In the medium to long term, we have issues I'm more concerned about and thats more where I take issue with government on planning and energy security issues. So I do take it seriously, and do think there is an ongoing issue.

But its not the risk that people are perceiving it to be either. Because people fail to understand the purpose of contigency planning and how it creates a paradox of creating more anxiety, but where it happens it actively reduces the risk of it playing out in a worse case situation.

As say, don't panic.

HelloClouds · 04/11/2022 10:43

My 18yo autistic son is terrified of blackouts and gets hysterical if the lights go out. At least if power cuts were planned we could be ready with candles, electric lanterns etc but it would still be really hard for him.

Alexandra2001 · 04/11/2022 10:44

etulosba · 04/11/2022 10:22

How the fuck do you know its only a 3 hour power cut?

Have you read read the title of the fucking thread?

Its your dismissive attitude.... oh its only a 3 hour power cut, not the end of the world...

People like you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourselves... and its why we are in this mess.

Seaweedandsalt · 04/11/2022 10:45

The Government have said its highly unlikely to happen? Has that now changed? I've got a torch and a couple of head torches, I think I'd just go to bed if it was in the evening.

MegGriffinshat · 04/11/2022 10:46

Seaweedandsalt · 04/11/2022 10:45

The Government have said its highly unlikely to happen? Has that now changed? I've got a torch and a couple of head torches, I think I'd just go to bed if it was in the evening.

Many of us wouldn’t believe the government if they told us the sky was blue.

Anything could happen really.

kateandme · 04/11/2022 10:46

HelloClouds · 04/11/2022 10:43

My 18yo autistic son is terrified of blackouts and gets hysterical if the lights go out. At least if power cuts were planned we could be ready with candles, electric lanterns etc but it would still be really hard for him.

I get that. People with fear of this and those with anxiety and panic disorders will really be hurting thinking about this.
and it doesn’t help when the “It’s only 3 hour “brigade pipe up. It could be 3 minutes and to someone who suffers with these things it’s really fucking hard to cope with.

RedToothBrush · 04/11/2022 10:47

Ihatethenewlook · 04/11/2022 10:39

3 hour blackouts to me would mean a number of rare and exotic animals dying of cold in their incubators. I’m paying a ridiculous amount of money to keep them alive now as it is. ATM I have no idea what I’m going to do. I’m going to start researching generators today, though I’m completely clueless about them

Power cuts are always possible. You take its availability for granted too much if your animals are that much of a risk if there is a cut. You should be taking out your own contigency planning as a matter course.

JustKeepSlimming · 04/11/2022 10:48

@Pickledhen "Given the absolute chaos that ensued with Covid/Brexit, the ongoing depletion of the NHS, Truss, mini budgets etcetera etcetera, I'm sceptical about the ability of this, or any government for that matter, to be on the ball about any kind of preparation for a national emergency. Its not like Putin is going to give us warning if he decides to do something mad and leave us with little to no power. The government is continually being caught on the hop, no faith in them at all, they're too busy working out ways to fill their own and their mates pockets than actually do anything to support the people they're supposed to be representing."

I'm not saying the plans are good or that the government will stick to them... just the the existence of a plan doesn't mean that this is expected to happen.

kateandme · 04/11/2022 10:48

Seaweedandsalt · 04/11/2022 10:45

The Government have said its highly unlikely to happen? Has that now changed? I've got a torch and a couple of head torches, I think I'd just go to bed if it was in the evening.

You see it’s this response I find bloody laughable! The government have been constantly telling us shit won’t happen.especially over the past few years. And they lie.it always does.its often always worse too

RedToothBrush · 04/11/2022 10:50

just the the existence of a plan doesn't mean that this is expected to happen.

Can we have a loud hailer on this please.

ListenLinda · 04/11/2022 10:51

I don’t understand that table. That looks I would be having 2 x 3 hour cuts per day, that can’t be right can it?

RedToothBrush · 04/11/2022 10:54

kateandme · 04/11/2022 10:48

You see it’s this response I find bloody laughable! The government have been constantly telling us shit won’t happen.especially over the past few years. And they lie.it always does.its often always worse too

I've been one to say: there is a risk of x because we aren't prepared for it, got laughed at and then it happened on MN.

This is one where I'm going: Don't panic because we are seeing planning and I think its proportionate.

So its not like I'm not seeing these type of risks.... I am processing the risk through critical thinking and observation of what is actually happening rather than relying on government comments either way.

Trust has fuck all to do with it.

MrKlaw · 04/11/2022 10:57

HelloClouds · 04/11/2022 10:43

My 18yo autistic son is terrified of blackouts and gets hysterical if the lights go out. At least if power cuts were planned we could be ready with candles, electric lanterns etc but it would still be really hard for him.

You could get some USB lanterns - there are decent ones on Amazon for £20 upwards. They charge from USB and you can hang them from light fittings or curtain poles or stand on a table.

We will get notice, and if you want to avoid a sudden 'lights off' you could have them plugged into the charger and turned on, and use those that evening as the sun sets, so that when the power goes off the lantern continues on battery power (they'll run for 6hrs usually) and you shouldn't notice any drastic change in lighting?

MintyFreshOne · 04/11/2022 11:00

We know that the Russians DID successfully sabotage the Nord Stream pipe

lol u don’t actually believe that, do u?

Ariela · 04/11/2022 11:01

HappyDays40 · 03/11/2022 22:34

Are they providing generators to vulnerable people. My MIL won't be able to see without a proper light. She has osteoporosis and is unsteady on her feet surely they can't expect her to walk around by the light of a torch? It'll kill her if she falls.

@HappyDays40 We have a few of these, kept fully charged. When on they last several hours. One would work fine to do a couple of connecting rooms - the light given off is just as bright if not brighter than our normal lighting, you can get lower powered ones /smaller ones and do one per room.
www.screwfix.com/p/lap-rechargeable-led-work-light-1000lm/613kf

Ivepaidmytaxes · 04/11/2022 11:01

Livelovebehappy · 03/11/2022 23:14

I’m beyond sick of living like this. It’s just one crisis after another, and just doom and gloom. I look back to pre covid and appreciate how bloody lucky we were. It just feels like life is never going to return to how it was. I look at children being born now and feel scared for what the future holds.

Me too, its grim :(

MegGriffinshat · 04/11/2022 11:02

Ihatethenewlook · 04/11/2022 10:39

3 hour blackouts to me would mean a number of rare and exotic animals dying of cold in their incubators. I’m paying a ridiculous amount of money to keep them alive now as it is. ATM I have no idea what I’m going to do. I’m going to start researching generators today, though I’m completely clueless about them

But a power cut could happen at any time. We had a three hour one a couple of months back, the whole area was out from 8am and the local school was closed. We were without for 24 hours after a storm one year.

What would you do then?

EdithStourton · 04/11/2022 11:05

RedToothBrush · 04/11/2022 10:50

just the the existence of a plan doesn't mean that this is expected to happen.

Can we have a loud hailer on this please.

Just to repeat the common sense.

For most people, a 3 hour power cut isn't a massive issue. It's a nuisance, but it's not the end of the world.