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3 Hour Blackouts

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pyjamafashionista · 03/11/2022 22:19

If they happen, they are saying they'll be planned between 4-7pm. Surely this is the most ridiculous time, when most people will still be at work/ travelling home/making tea etc.
Any genius thoughts to get through a 3 hour blackout besides blankets and 🕯
I feel really sad for vulnerable people on their own if it happens 😪

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midgetastic · 04/11/2022 09:18

Well yes the government has acted beyond stupid for decades on this

As a country we have huge renewable potential

The idea of energy instability was known decades ago

If out government had invested this country could be selling power to the EU now not heading into recession and facing power cuts

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/11/2022 09:18

walkinginsunshinekat · 04/11/2022 08:56

Check it will still run if no electricity, the modern ones wont work in a power cut, its a safety feature.

They won't light with the push button but should work with matches.

Applesandcarrots · 04/11/2022 09:18

Ponoka7 · 04/11/2022 08:00

Yes, we'll have suicides and accidental deaths. Wearing a head torch doesn't cut it for frail people at risk of falls. Frail people often don't survive falls etc.with the lack of ambulances, hospital care and then social care, there will be deaths. In the 70's (which I lived through) we were set up differently. Likewise during the war opening up the air raid shelters not only protected people from bombing, but meant that collectively, those at risk were looked after. As said, disabled people wasn't a concern, they were in institutions. I was a community volunteer during Covid, I witnessed the aging of pensioners because of isolation. Take away their 'company' television etc, people who are already struggling won't survive. Do you think that the lock down suicide rates were fabricated?

Really blunt here but that's such an ott reaction to few hours of planned blackouts.

While I think it's ridiculous anyway (the blackouts) as someone who grew up with them with every thunderstorm, people need to calm down.

You can't compare few hours without electricity to months of lockdowns....

toor · 04/11/2022 09:18

@RewildingAmbridge yes it's shit but I don't know what you want people to say? Because you have PCOS you should definitely have priority over other people?

midgetastic · 04/11/2022 09:19

But there are always round problems and we need to face the world that significant percentage of people here must have voted for

Frazzled2207 · 04/11/2022 09:20

I’d recommend voting for a party for which prioritises sourcing renewable energy sources on UK territory/ in UK waters.

rather than banning farmers from using their fields for solar where it makes commercial sense.

GooseberryCinnamonYogurt · 04/11/2022 09:21

midgetastic · 04/11/2022 09:18

Well yes the government has acted beyond stupid for decades on this

As a country we have huge renewable potential

The idea of energy instability was known decades ago

If out government had invested this country could be selling power to the EU now not heading into recession and facing power cuts

Exactly right. Years of incompetence has led to this state of affairs.

KangarooKenny · 04/11/2022 09:22

Raddix · 04/11/2022 08:53

This is exactly why I got a gas hob. If the electric goes off I can still cook. The sales people whinged about how it’s old fashioned and everyone has induction hobs nowadays - but look who’s laughing now!

Me too.
And that’s why I kept my hot water tank and immersion heater. If the gas goes off, and we had none for 3 days one Xmas, I can still have a hot shower.

sst1234 · 04/11/2022 09:22

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/11/2022 08:47

We had no central heating anyway in the early 70s just the one gas fire. We were less dependent on electrical devices though - no computers etc at school and just the one TV. I was in my teens and it was a nuisance but that's all.

We didn’t even have any heat until man discovered fire.

Why the fuss?

Ponoka7 · 04/11/2022 09:23

Pleasebeafleabite · 04/11/2022 08:11

@Ponoka7 You do realise we’re talking about three hour cuts a couple of times a week don’t you. Similar to what we get when we have severely bad weather.

I am sure that pensioners can manage just fine without three hours of television. Yes it will be a cold three hours and not ideal for them or for anyone vulnerable.

One wonders how the human race survived before central heating and electric lights

Well help the aged, disability charities, people working across health and social care and a whole load of politicians, families etc aren't so sure. Before we lived in mains heated homes, we had other means of keeping warm, which is why we had a thriving coal industry. Vulnerable people didn't live alone. People didn't survive. So it boils down to us accepting lots of deaths again. Why do you think that you know better than Help the Aged and Scope, who are presently lobbying the government over this issue? On what basis are you sure everyone will be fine?

In some areas we will need police on the beat to stop the crime wave that will happen and it's been brought up by local police. Every emergency service is asking the government for clarity because as it stands, it's going to be a shit show.

midgetastic · 04/11/2022 09:23

Frazzled2207 · 04/11/2022 09:20

I’d recommend voting for a party for which prioritises sourcing renewable energy sources on UK territory/ in UK waters.

rather than banning farmers from using their fields for solar where it makes commercial sense.

Actually not converting farmland to solar is probably sensible

Currently we face a fuel crisis but we are equally vulnerable to food shortages and a food crisis is as probable as fuel crisis going forward

So it needs to be profitable for farmers to make food

I guess there is no point looking at the current government at that point is there

ScrambledOrPoached · 04/11/2022 09:24

Presumably we can still cook on a gas hob if we light it with a lighter?

stuntbubbles · 04/11/2022 09:26

Absolutely hate my gas hob and longing for an induction, but quite pleased we can’t afford a kitchen reno yet. Need to stock up on matches.

Our main contingency plan is making trade-offs with friends in different letter zones – we’ve all got small children and all wfh; with a bit of planning we can work at each other’s houses and such. Not looking forward to having a new baby in January in a big draughty house anyway but if it’s anything like the last one, it’ll want to stay warm by sleeping in my armpit anyway.

pyjamafashionista · 04/11/2022 09:26

MrPoppysParka · 03/11/2022 23:23

And do you realise that a lot of people wfh? I wfh for an American company so I’m needed a lot in the evenings due to time zone differences. This would absolutely fuck my job.

Of course, it will affect many people in different ways, some much much worse than others. Let's just hope it doesn't come to blackouts.

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walkinginsunshinekat · 04/11/2022 09:27

GooseberryCinnamonYogurt · 04/11/2022 09:21

Exactly right. Years of incompetence has led to this state of affairs.

TBF its a war in Ukraine that has led to this, no one could have predicted a war in Europe 5 years ago.

Least of all the tories, who Putin was funding - we shouldn't forget this, no matter how hard they try to make us do so.

sst1234 · 04/11/2022 09:27

Looks like the government nudge unit is at it again.

Scare people into thinking millions are going to die so they voluntarily lock themselves up and report their neighbours for taking a second walk of the days.

Scare people into thinking your energy bill is you up by 10x so you are grateful when they tell you it’s only going up 5x.

Scare people into thinking that you will have 6 hours of power cuts every day so that you are grateful when only lose power for 3 hours a day.

Simply to hide their own incompetent policies.

Frazzled2207 · 04/11/2022 09:27

@midgetastic
i agree with your principle 100% but I think very few UK food farmers are able to make a decent profit these days.
I’d rather farmers prioritise food if for example we could get enough renewable energy offshore (currently we can’t). However if it is solar or going bust/selling the land to developers then surely the former is better.

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/11/2022 09:30

sst1234 · 04/11/2022 09:22

We didn’t even have any heat until man discovered fire.

Why the fuss?

Ridiculous response were not going back to prehistoric times it's 3 hours without electricity on a planned rota. I wasn't much bothered in the 70s as I was a teenager but my parents generation had lived through air raids maybe that's why they didn't complain as much.

It happened in the past and it looks like it might happen again. It shouldn't but we are where we are. You can stick your head in the sand or prepare for it.

midgetastic · 04/11/2022 09:31

Pragmatism meets idealism 😀

kingtamponthefurred · 04/11/2022 09:31

JustKeepSlimming · 03/11/2022 22:52

It's worth remembering that these kinds of plans are always ready to go - the government has people who go through every conceivable disaster that might hit the country, and make plans (in theory at least).

So there are plans in place for nationwide power shortages, terrorist attacks, alien invasions etc. Generally we don't see these plans unless we go looking for them, but obviously from time to time they get put on Twitter or something - it doesn't mean they think it's about to happen.

It seems like there is more of a risk of power cuts this year than in previous years, but the plans being public doesn't mean they're expecting it to happen.

Is there really a plan for alien invasion? What is it?

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/11/2022 09:31

I meant - Ridiculous response. We're not ...

stuntbubbles · 04/11/2022 09:31

midgetastic · 04/11/2022 09:23

Actually not converting farmland to solar is probably sensible

Currently we face a fuel crisis but we are equally vulnerable to food shortages and a food crisis is as probable as fuel crisis going forward

So it needs to be profitable for farmers to make food

I guess there is no point looking at the current government at that point is there

Solar farms still allow for some agriculture and can be beneficial to regenerating land and for certain crops; the proposed Tory ban is about regrading land so solar can’t be built on land that isn’t brilliant for farming anyway – taking the solar away just removes income revenue for farmers, it doesn’t magically make the soil better or boost food production.

ChristmasCwtch · 04/11/2022 09:31

We’ve got a few lanterns, lots of batteries, power banks, duvets, blankets, a log burner.

Just think of it like camping. I think we’ll just sleep earlier.

Being given advance notice helps avoid a truly miserable scenario.

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/11/2022 09:34

kingtamponthefurred · 04/11/2022 09:31

Is there really a plan for alien invasion? What is it?

Not sure about alien invasions but emergency services do prepare for dirty bombs and huge industrial accidents. They even prepared for a pandemic, the government were told plans were inadequate and did nothing.

My ex was in the army and they had a saying PPPPPP - Preparation and Planning Prevent Piss Poor Performance.

TeaAndStrumpets · 04/11/2022 09:35

When we moved to our present house in 1985 it had a generator socket wired to an outside wall and a second consumer unit indoors. We were told this had been installed in the 70s for a dialysis user. In the event of a power cut a generator would have been delivered. Presumably this sort of provision is available still?

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