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Eating with a knife and fork in the wrong hands

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Getabloominmoveon · 01/11/2022 10:30

Just sat in a cafe next to a whole family eating with their fork in the right hand and knife in the left. On the other side a young guy was struggling to chop up his food with just a fork. A few weeks ago an adult friend of mine admitted she didn’t know which way to set a table.This is In the UK btw.

When did this start? Have they never eaten with a table set with cutlery? Don’t people teach their kids how to eat properly any more?

At the risk of sounding like Hyacinth Bouquet AIBU to think that this is a basic life skill and people should eat with their cutlery in the right hands (unless left-handed, different cultures, Americans and all the other caveats of course).

OP posts:
mamacattiva · 01/11/2022 11:03

We eat the opposite way round to you (although the right way to us) because as Muslims we use the left hand for ‘dirty’ things e.g. the hand we use in the loo, and our right hand is kept clean for things like eating, wearing our wedding rings, etc

Sage396 · 01/11/2022 11:04

I know the "correct" (who decides these things though?) way to hold cutlery and to set a table but I... don't care?

I hold my cutlery the "wrong" way because that's what's comfortable and less messy for me.

WibblyWobblyTimeyWimeyStuff · 01/11/2022 11:04

KettrickenSmiled · 01/11/2022 10:58

I'd have stabbed them with the wrong fork

😂😂😂
Nice one @Topgub

She felt comfortable bullying a 21 year old shy young woman who was new to the company! Would never have picked on a peer who was (in her eyes) equal to her!

Awful woman!!!

Chikapu · 01/11/2022 11:05

I just shovel everything in my mouth with a spoon, fewer dropsies that way.

SheepDance · 01/11/2022 11:05

hesbeingabitofadick · 01/11/2022 11:00

I eat using the cutlery in the "wrong" hands too...

I HAVE ALSO BEEN KNOW TO LICK THE PLATE!

😋

I have to admit I'd be a little agog at that in a restaurant! (but not enough to start a thread about it)
In my own home, however, I have been known to let manners slip significantly....

OneDayAtATimePlease · 01/11/2022 11:06

The correct way to use a knife and fork is to be able to cut and eat your food without making a mess off your plate.

That's it. Anything more is pure snobbery nothing to do with good manners and everything to do with superiority.

Frankly having a superior attitude is far ruder than someone using the "wrong" hand to cut their potato!

drinkallthecoffee · 01/11/2022 11:06

I'm right handed but I use my knife in my left. My whole family does. Yabvvu.

CrunchyToes · 01/11/2022 11:08

This is such a ridiculous and snobby way to think, how uptight must someone be to care about which hand another person holds their cutlery?

I might be a bit sore about this topic though because when I was at school I was told I ate with the fork in the 'wrong' hand, they sat me at the edge of the table every lunchtime with a teacher next to me watching me making me eat the 'right' way. It was so humiliating and I used to cry and just not eat.

sevenbyseven · 01/11/2022 11:08

SusGus · 01/11/2022 10:40

As someone who was taught all of the table ‘rules’ DH and I have already discussed we will not be passing these on and enforcing with DD. My grandparents were from a very working class background, and did everything to erase that.

It’s classist bs.

And if DD wants to attend certain social events or mix in certain circles then sure I’ll give her some tips but honestly, how do you let this worry you so much?

My grandparents were working class and left school at 13 but had good table manners and used cutlery correctly. I don't see it as a class issue, just old-fashioned good manners.

But of course manners and customs change, so perhaps using a knife and fork will just fall out of fashion completely 🤷‍♀️

funnelfanjo · 01/11/2022 11:08

cruellabraverman · 01/11/2022 10:48

I eat with a knife and fork in the 'wrong' hands (who decided what is correct?) I suspect from mirroring my parents eating as my sibling does too.

I also know how to set a table, which cutlery should be used and when and how to place cutlery to signify whether I'm taking a break or have finished. I'm also aware how to eat a bread roll with a meal - breaking little bits at a time and buttering them rather than the whole roll (doesn't mean I always do it!) , how to eat soup correctly and also in which direction tines should be whilst eating. It's all antiquated bs tbh and it's says more about you than the people that you perceive to be incorrect.

I agree that anyone that judges anyone else for this is exceptionally rude, and would go along with "if it doesn't impact you, mind your own business".

However, I do agree it is a life skill worth acquiring. If you find yourself in a situation where everyone else knows this kind of stuff and you don't, it doesn't help your self-confidence, particularly if its a work related situation.

So yes, know that your side plate is to your left, your wine glass to your right, work your way in from outside to in on the cutlery and all of that, but never ever judge anyone else for not knowing that stuff. Commenting on other people's manners immediately classifies you as rude.

SheepDance · 01/11/2022 11:10

WibblyWobblyTimeyWimeyStuff · 01/11/2022 10:51

This puts me in mind of a works Christmas meal I went on about 20 years ago, and a young colleague was sitting next to me - 21 years old. She didn't go 'from the outside in' with her cutlery, and a shirty, 30-something colleague slammed her hand down on the table, and said 'MANNERS YOUNG LADY!' Use your cutlery CORRECTLY.'

The poor young woman was mortified and went flame red. Ruined the whole night for her.

You sound exactly like that 30-something colleague @Getabloominmoveon

She was never taught proper manners- ie it's extremely rude to do what she did!
What a nasty woman.

SlashBeef · 01/11/2022 11:10

You need to get a life. I write with my right hand and eat with my knife in my left hand. I was picked on relentlessly by a really nasty teacher about it when I was about 8 years old. It got to the point my mum had to complain about the bullying. Years and years later I'm still self conscious about it. Whose business is it how someone eats?? As long as they're not chucking their food around the room and eating like a warthog how does it have any impact on you whatsoever?

SusGus · 01/11/2022 11:13

sevenbyseven · 01/11/2022 11:08

My grandparents were working class and left school at 13 but had good table manners and used cutlery correctly. I don't see it as a class issue, just old-fashioned good manners.

But of course manners and customs change, so perhaps using a knife and fork will just fall out of fashion completely 🤷‍♀️

I think there’s a difference though between table manners and having to have cutlery in specific hands, which I personally think is a class thing.

And I don’t think anyones suggesting we do away with cutlery all together, although there are plenty of cultures where it’s not as common.

MsMarch · 01/11/2022 11:13

OneDayAtATimePlease · 01/11/2022 11:06

The correct way to use a knife and fork is to be able to cut and eat your food without making a mess off your plate.

That's it. Anything more is pure snobbery nothing to do with good manners and everything to do with superiority.

Frankly having a superior attitude is far ruder than someone using the "wrong" hand to cut their potato!

Yes. This. Can you eat without making a huge mess and/or disturbing other diners? Are you polite to fellow eaters and any serving staff? If you can manage that, i don't really care.

Having said that, for my first job, my second interview was in a restaurant and it was quite clearly to see how I behaved in public. I'd like to think that it was more about the above than how I held my knife and fork. Either way, I did get the job!

deliverooyoutoo · 01/11/2022 11:15

I use my cutlery the wrong way round. I'm left handed. I can't do it the other way without making a mess.

Cheminaufaules · 01/11/2022 11:15

So many caveats especially in our multi-cultural society in the UK, I'm not sure why this still bothers you, OP? As long as those people are kind people, who cares if they eat using just a fork ?! Some people even use just chopsticks! Radical!

AlbertaAnnie · 01/11/2022 11:15

People should feel free to use their cutlery how it suits them. This “right and wrong” way is outadated and surely harks down from some ridiculous class system that no longer applies - please get a grip and leave others to enjoy their food in peace ✌️

SusGus · 01/11/2022 11:16

hesbeingabitofadick · 01/11/2022 11:00

I eat using the cutlery in the "wrong" hands too...

I HAVE ALSO BEEN KNOW TO LICK THE PLATE!

😋

Haha this just reminded me of the time I walked into the kitchen and caught my gran licking a plate. She was absolutely mortified!

tietheknot · 01/11/2022 11:17

Hospitality professional of 10 years here, have set up many a place setting for weddings over those years... I still eat with a knife and fork in the 'wrong' hands - it just feels right to me : )

HappinesDependsOnYou · 01/11/2022 11:17

Who even made up a rule for eating a set way? I do it as it was drilled into me as a kid but seriously humans have so many bloody rules you should at least be able to eat which ever way is most comfortable for you. Arguably the most intelligent species but also the dumbest as we make our lives harder just because we can at times. Life is too short to care which hand a fork is in

FairyLightAddict · 01/11/2022 11:18

Getabloominmoveon · 01/11/2022 10:30

Just sat in a cafe next to a whole family eating with their fork in the right hand and knife in the left. On the other side a young guy was struggling to chop up his food with just a fork. A few weeks ago an adult friend of mine admitted she didn’t know which way to set a table.This is In the UK btw.

When did this start? Have they never eaten with a table set with cutlery? Don’t people teach their kids how to eat properly any more?

At the risk of sounding like Hyacinth Bouquet AIBU to think that this is a basic life skill and people should eat with their cutlery in the right hands (unless left-handed, different cultures, Americans and all the other caveats of course).

What a ridiculous post. My 3 kids and dad are left handed so can I expect to be judged if out with them.

My dad taught me how to lay the table and as he's left handed I always have to double check.

JeanMarie · 01/11/2022 11:20

Who actually decided there was a "right" or a "wrong" way to hold cutlery in the first place?
I'm left handed.....interesting that the word 'sinister' actually means 'coming from the left'.
When I started school , very rural in the arse end of nowhere, I was the only leftie in the place. My teacher actually tied...TIED...my left hand behind my back to encourage me to use my right . That lasted until my mum came into the school like a raging bull. I'm actually ambidextrous, can write with either hand, but my default setting is left. I used to knit and reverse the pattern. My whole body is geared towards the left. Nobody has ever looked aghast at me while I'm eating and if they did they'd get short shrift....cheeky fuckers!

LemonPledge555 · 01/11/2022 11:24

JFC. I eat the “wrong” way round, and have inadvertently taught my DD to do the same. I literally give no shits about it, but am shocked that you find it necessary to judge people like me. It’s more comfortable and the way I’ve always done it.

bookworm14 · 01/11/2022 11:25

I am left handed and physically can’t eat the ‘correct’ way round. Literally the only place I have ever encountered criticism of this is Mumsnet, which seems to be full of tedious lower middle class Hyacinth Buckets.

As long as you are eating neatly without annoying or disturbing other diners, it makes absolutely no fucking difference which hand you hold your knife in.

KennAdams · 01/11/2022 11:27

YABU.

I doubt anyone really cares.

In some places it's normal to eat with your fingers.

I wouldn't call holding cutlery a basic life skill either.

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