People are fine with being disrespectful to Christians

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At a church playgroup. The people who run it are very devout Christians. I am taken aback, by the number of parents, who thought it was appropriate to bring their kids to the church dressed for Halloween. Kids are dressed as witches, goblins, skeletons, creepy pumpkins etc..
The church holds a light party every year on Halloween and is very clear that they do not endorse Halloween.

@Powderandpaint - ah so instead of saying women do not need a get Jesus instead said you must stay in a marriage whether you are unhappy or being abused?

I also think you misunderstand the priesthood. Have you heard of the Papal States? It has always primarily been about land, power and status as long as an organised Christianity has existed. Jesus may have gone around preaching and healing the sick, but the early Popes quickly saw the opportunity for what it was and the CofE church certainly didn’t fall far from the Catholic tree.

Can you for even one second even consider that what you consider the ideal is so far from ideal for the vast majority of people? It blows my mind that you think what you are saying is a desirable way to live.

I find that MN is probably not anti Christian but it's pretty intolerant.
I'm am a Christian who does not celebrate Halloween, I just find it a bit gross.
All throughout time there have been people who do the right thing by God or go against what He says. The Bible demonstrates that perfectly.
Christians have a responsibility to be a representative of Jesus Christ.
He was and is The Ultimate Champion.
I don't expect people to believe but I like it when they do.
I hope that people see me well and that I can show love like He does.

@pepperminttaste haha! Try a Home Counties accent strongly put on so the neighbours don’t find out she’s really from whisper Croydon.

Two men say they're Jesus: one of them must be wrong ....

I also think you misunderstand the priesthood. Have you heard of the Papal States? It has always primarily been about land, power and status as long as an organised Christianity has existed.

Thanks for fighting for us oppressed Catholic women to get a part of this hellishly corrupt land-grab that's about nothing more than status, I suppose?

Which one ?

No idea, I didn’t ask. I just said OK and crossed them off the list of venues.

Christians tolerate criticism of their faith far beyond limits that other faiths would.
I think the church could put up a sign next year to dissuade people attending the group, should they choose.
I suspect they would rather families attended, even if they wore devil outfits.

Do they sing Christian songs?

No, which Bible - There are plenty of versions to choose from.

I take it everyone knows about Macabees ?

As yes, the most persecuted faith, Christianity. I cannot think of one religion that is persecuted less than Christianity. Not one.

Again. I didn’t ask. I can send you the church name, feel free to contact them to ask.

well, there are plenty of translations, but generally Protestant churches all use Bibles with the same selection of books in them, Catholics have one agreed version (with more books, including Maccabees), Orthodox I am less sure of but I believe have more again, and then there are a few fuzzy areas around the outskirts of those big three. So there are different versions to a degree, but it's not really the case that any church you rock up at could have any kind of 'Bible' at all and you'd have no way of knowing.

@Ihatecocomelon I'm a Christian and got torn to pieces asking how to get more people to attend church on here.The general consensus on here is we're all a load of child abusers/sweaty nonces who brainwash people and hate gays.

I think I remember this thread... People just pointed out it is unethical to trick people into going to church. Didn't comment but I remember thinking sodding Christians - they always think introctinating people into believing in their God is the best'gift' they can give you. If this is the thread I'm thinking about you then pretended that wasn't what you were trying to do and seemed confused when someone posted your exact claimed reasons but replaced it with a Jehovahs Witness Hall. If it was for the reasons you said then you'd be buzzing down to the JW hall but you're not a JW so why would you be interested. Almost like it wasn't for the reasons you said. The hyprocicy really did tickle me.

@ChilliBandit ah so instead of saying women do not need a get Jesus instead said you must stay in a marriage whether you are unhappy or being abused?
I also think you misunderstand the priesthood. Have you heard of the Papal States? It has always primarily been about land, power and status as long as an organised Christianity has existed. Jesus may have gone around preaching and healing the sick, but the early Popes quickly saw the opportunity for what it was and the CofE church certainly didn’t fall far from the Catholic tree.
Can you for even one second even consider that what you consider the ideal is so far from ideal for the vast majority of people? It blows my mind that you think what you are saying is a desirable way to live.

Hmm. Quite a lot to unpick here;

ah so instead of saying women do not need a get Jesus instead said you must stay in a marriage whether you are unhappy or being abused?

Not at all.
Please read what I wrote.

Have you heard of the Papal States?
Yes, they haven't existed since 1870 when the Unification of Italy occurred.

Can you for even one second even consider that what you consider the ideal is so far from ideal for the vast majority of people? It blows my mind that you think what you are saying is a desirable way to live.

I don't get your point.

@Powderandpaint - are you being purposefully obtuse? You said a women couldn’t leave her husband (assume you are referring to a get which a Jewish man can grant a woman but a woman can’t get divorced without it) so instead of saying women don’t need gets, Jesus said well no one can get divorced then. Life isn’t all sunshine and roses and as reality proved that led to a lot of unhappy marriages trundling along oh and in the UK some beheadings of a couple of wives and the whole dissolution of monarchies thing.

What has the unification of Italy have to do with the position of Pope being primarily one of power and wealth. The land may be smaller but the power and wealth built up over history remains.

And just lol at the last point. Just lol. The quicker the church’s power and influence diminishes in this country the better frankly,

It is actually the most persecuted religion in the world, you just don't see it in the UK/USA.

For those confused about having the party on 31st Oct, they're an alternative to traditional Halloween celebrations. Children can dress up and have fun, minus the scary stuff/trick or treating, without feeling left out.

@ChilliBandit What has the unification of Italy have to do with the position of Pope being primarily one of power and wealth. The land may be smaller but the power and wealth built up over history remains.

You are misinformed.

The Pope, personally, has no money, and no income, and no possessions, other than his personal clothes.

😂 I think you're getting confused.
Christains are the persecuters. They have separated families to indoctrinate stolen children. They have drowned, burned. They have appropriated older faiths. Still, to this day, they go to poor children in deprived countries promising gifts if they accept their quite frankly scary God.

I have no words.

@Powderandpaint - No salary but all expenses paid for and a palace with a helicopter and a summer house. Are you trying to claim the main Christian churches are not wealthy? Now I know you are a wind up merchant or really are blind to reality.

Two men say they're Jesus: one of them must be wrong ....

There's a protest singer, he's singing a protest song

Now that really is disrespectful.

@ChilliBandit No salary but all expenses paid for and a palace with a helicopter and a summer house.

Which last for as long as he lives which often isn't long, given the age at which most popes are appointed.

Are you trying to claim the main Christian churches are not wealthy?

I can't answer that unless I know which churches do you mean?

Here are some wealthy individuals, do you have an issue with these guys?

www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/business-people/richest-people-in-the-world/

No, it's just a statistics thing. Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world. This is not about white rich Christians in the US but Christians in China, Africa and Asia, and South America to some degree. These are Christians in the poorest parts of the world who come under horrendous oppression for their faith. Muslims in some areas of China are also under great persecution. They are imprisoned, tortured, and murdered.

Christianity is by far more represented by these people than the rich white people who you are referring to. And it's funnily enough in those parts of the world where Christianity is on the increase.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305.amp

Christians are persecuted in many countries. That's a fact. Christians, or people who call themselves Christians, are also guilty of committing many greater and lesser acts of wrong - that includes the whole shoe boxes of gifts in exchange for indoctrination thing on the lower end of the scale, all the way up to the kind of stuff the Westboro Baptist Church do and the terrifying cult-like behaviour of the Quiver Full movement. Ultimately they're people, and some people do shitty things. No matter what faith (or none) they espouse.

But respect has to be earned.