People are fine with being disrespectful to Christians

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At a church playgroup. The people who run it are very devout Christians. I am taken aback, by the number of parents, who thought it was appropriate to bring their kids to the church dressed for Halloween. Kids are dressed as witches, goblins, skeletons, creepy pumpkins etc..
The church holds a light party every year on Halloween and is very clear that they do not endorse Halloween.

This
the most terrified my children have ever been was a fucking light party where some Christians and I use the term loosely threw blood on the walls in the garden for the blood of Christ and filled water bottle up with mud and shook them and then asked the children to drink them before going on to say they were all sinners and filth unless they begged Jesus Christ to forgive them and then they would get pure water to drink

putting Into fact that most Christian festivals are based on the pagan dates I am so not impressed with light parties

Oh yeah I see them. But they don't form my wider opinion on Christians. They're the aforementioned evangelical nutters. I don't like evangelists of any stripe. Most Christians I know aren't evangelists

Never heard of the salam witch trials? they litrally killed women by drowning etc... and if the 'survived' the impossible they where deemed witches (so immortal/undead).

Also I am Christian, I believe the bible is an interesting historic book but I do NOT for one second believe a woman was made from a mans rib or a virgin was impregnanted by an angel on behalf of god or that Jesus was 'magic'.

The bible is a MASSIVE game of chinese whispers that is based on stories from mortal men handed down through generations, writen decades or centuraries 'after the fact' then translated by hand again and again through hundreds of languages and twisted to fit thousands of denominations... if you pulled a 400 Catholic year old bible from Rome and compared it to a modern American Evangelical bible they would likely be nothing alike.

Please dont 'speak' for litrally millions of people... I dont think people who dont believe the rising story are wrong as I dont fully believe it myself and neither would any christian I know think to insinuate other where 'wrong' (and as I said we regularly have theological discussions about these concepts both amongs ourselves and with visitors from other religeons).

What the fuck??? When and where was that??? Actual mud?

@Thebestwaytoscareatory I don't see a problem with the first quote.

As regards the second quote - One should not misread St. Paul in 1 Timothy 2:11-12, the verses that typically raise the most concern in the longer passage of 1 Timothy 2:8-15. As a leader in the early Church, Paul is not issuing a categorical ban on women in teaching ministry. He is specifically prohibiting them from the teaching and governing ministry exclusively reserved to the ordained clergy (1 Cor. 14:34-35).
That would mean, for example, as it does to the present day, that women cannot give homilies at Mass, a teaching function reserved to bishops, priests, and deacons.
St. Paul clearly affirms elsewhere the equal dignity of men and woman in Christ (Gal. 3:28), as well as that women can pray and prophesy otherwise within Christian worship (1 Cor. 11:5). Paul adds that women provide an important service in teaching the faith in word and deed in other contexts (Titus 2:3-4).

@monsteramunch You certainly seem to have a bee in your bonnet over this. 🙄
Why does it matter what I think?

Anyway I've given you my answer more than once - I'm sorry it isn't the one you want.

No bee in my bonnet here, just responding to you suggesting I was being manipulative or disingenuous in the question I asked you when it was a straight and simple one,

Your 'answer' was that it was a straw man argument. Your prerogative not to engage in good faith, instead choosing to rinse and repeat that I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

Jesus is a zombie so what's the issue with it? If they can worship a dead guy I can send my son dressed out as a ghost.

@monsteramunch Your 'answer' was that it was a straw man argument. Your prerogative not to engage in good faith, instead choosing to rinse and repeat that I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yup, that's it, so it looks like you won't get your 'copy' for the Daily Mail eh? 🤔

I don't even know what on earth you're on about now, all very odd.

And FYI the Daily Mail is the last paper I would have any interest in thanks!

Have a good evening...

Yeah, I noticed nuns get used as costumes a lot for adults. I don't think people would think it OK to dress-up or make jokes about figures from other religions

It’s very rare that I actually laugh out loud to posts but I did to this 😂

I agree, OP.

The playgroup should have been more explicit though. Most people aren’t Christians now, so they don’t understand why it’s offensive.

So much understanding of our own culture and knowledge of how to behave appropriately has been lost, so it’s no wonder now that most people don’t know what’s expected of them in certain situations. It’s a shame though.

I had noticed that too - those claiming the Christians are the most disrespected should look at how they speak to pagans.

If you give respect to other religions you'd be worthy of respect back.

@Ihatecocomelon I'm a Christian and got torn to pieces asking how to get more people to attend church on here.The general consensus on here is we're all a load of child abusers/sweaty nonces who brainwash people and hate gays.

You forgot the most important part - the ubiquitous Sky Fairy !🙂

Ah yes, thanks.

@Ihatecocomelon - I think I remember your thread. You didn’t get torn to pieces if it’s the one I was thinking of. People quite rightly just said it’s not ok to trick young people into going to church by having events where the religious element is disguised. The OP of that thread also didn’t like suggestions that other Christians made of running community events without evangelising or recruiting.

I would be surprised if it was members of the church, but for members of a playgroup run by the church I’m not surprised at all. Halloween is a secular thing now and people will come dressed as it just like you get different religions coming. My local one has a few Muslim families come.

I think they would have needed to make it clear tbh! People don’t always.

That would mean, for example, as it does to the present day, that women cannot give homilies at Mass, a teaching function reserved to bishops, priests, and deacons.

The fact that women can't be bishops, priests, and deacons is sexist on itself. As if they are not worthy enough. Can't have women getting above their station now, can we? All hail the mighty men, women shut up and go birth kids.

I wasn't trying to trick anyone, but that's what I was accused of. If you reread the thread you will see.

No sorry I suppose I didn't get torn to pieces but was met with a lot of hostility imo.

@Ihatecocomelon - I just had another read, you are specifically asking how to get more young people to attend your church. If their parents are already religious chances are they will already be going to church, so of course non-religious people will not be delighted at you trying to recruit their children. I still didn’t see hostility towards you.

@Eindaira
The fact that women can't be bishops, priests, and deacons is sexist on itself. As if they are not worthy enough. Can't have women getting above their station now, can we? All hail the mighty men, women shut up and go birth kids.

I think you have a wrong viewpoint.

Since God is the one who has appointed the different roles within the Church, no one can claim a right to any position within the body of Christ. This is especially the case with sacraments. No one—male or female—has a “right” to be a priest. It is not like a governmental office that anyone can apply to. It is a sacrament, and no one has a title to grace. It is an unmerited gift from Christ.

This may strike some as unfair, but realize that God has given women other gifts that he has not given to men. For example, women bring the body of Christ (souls) into the world one birth at a time.
Men do not have this privilege. Priests bring the body of Christ (Eucharist) into the world one Mass at a time—a gift reserved to them, acting in the person of Christ.

In other words - men and women are equal but they are not interchangeable.

Men do not have this privilege.

I'm not sure I'd call it a privilege

''Things that glorify the darkness''?

What?

Halloween has pagan roots. Nothing to do with glorifying ''darkness''. It is in itself a very old form of worship

Same with witches. I would suggest having a read at what Wiccans are about for example. Nothing to do with glorifying ''darkness' either.

Kids dressed as pumpkins, ghosts, vampires and so on are not worshiping the devil as far as I can see...there are just dressing up and having fun. None of these creatures are real you know.

Tolerance goes both ways.

You expect people to show you respect and understanding yet you come with statements that show a deep lack of knowledge and respect for other beliefs and religions.