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AIBU to not let my baby sleep out

66 replies

97DS · 30/10/2022 12:50

Hi, can I post this anonymously please:

Basically, me and my partner are due to have another baby very soon, and we already have a 1 year old at home. I’m coping well but can occasionally feel overwhelmed especially as we also have dogs and a house to look after.

My MIL has taken it upon herself (without asking us if it’s even ok first) to turn her spare bedroom in a full-blown nursery so the 1 year old can sleep over and we get a ‘night off’ once new baby is here.
I really appreciate the thought, money and effort that’s gone into this, but ultimately I feel it’s a massive waste. She’s so excited about this so we’ve just reached a point where we now ignore it and let her carry on. I’m ok with 1 year old using the nursery to play/nap during days when we pop over to visit, but the thought of overnight makes me very uncomfortable.

Baby has also never slept out before, because I have anxiety and i feel there’s nowhere better and safer than to be at home with mum/dad.

MIL lives about 1 mile down the road from us so if a sleepover was ever on the cards, I’d prefer it to be at my house where the 1 year old is already comfortable, familiar with their surroundings, and with everything 1 year old would need without me having to pack/unpack a bag just to go down the street.

Anyways, back to the issue… my MIL has 2x very large dogs (dog breed known to be aggressive and very powerful). One is a rescue from an abusive background so unpredictable in it’s behaviour , the other they have owned from being a puppy. Both dogs are chaotic.

They are NOT well trained.

They pull, jump up, trash the house, rip up their beds, destroy their toys. The list goes on & on.
All MIL does is complain about how naughty they’re being/what they’ve done recently that’s been naughty. Even my very affectionate/friendly dogs are scared of them.

I have been over to the house with the 1 year old in the past and whilst MIL has been holding 1year old, one dog has jumped up, growled, barked and attempted to bite MIL.

Thankfully I was there to quickly snatch baby away so MIL could lock the dogs somewhere safe. She could see I was obviously shaken up and on edge the rest of the visit.

MIL says it’s because baby isn’t around the dogs enough they’re just not used to it; They’re only being protective. But I don’t see it as protection. It looked like they would attack if given the opportunity.

The dogs have also growled, barked and bitten FIL and BIL, who are around them a lot so I don’t think it’s being protective, just aggressive.

So my question is, AIBU to NOT let my 1 year old sleep out, at a house that has two very large aggressive dogs, where they will literally DESTROY anything they can get hold of???
I don’t feel like the 1 year old sleeping out would be much of a ‘night off’ for me as I would be worried sick all evening. I’ve been told the dogs will not be allowed upstairs, bedroom doors will be closed, and there’s baby gates throughout the house. Personally, I still don’t think this is enough protection because 1 year old won’t be kept upstairs all day and all night. MIL will want to be in the livingroom and kitchen with 1year old whilst they are playing/feeding etc. And i feel it’s then unfair to lock the dogs outside or into cages whilst 1year old is downstairs.

Please share your thoughts. Thank you

OP posts:
SpookabooAtTheZoo · 30/10/2022 12:54

Not only should you not let the baby sleep there, I don't think you should take the baby there or let her bring her dogs to yours. She needs to train them and she's delusional to think she's having the baby in these circumstances.
I've had dogs for 25 years and the amount of feckless dog owners I've encountered in that time is stunning.

Notajogger · 30/10/2022 12:57

Not in a million years would I allow this!

MatildaTheCat · 30/10/2022 12:57

I wouldn’t take my children there at all. Dangerous dogs around me precious babies? No thanks.

Notajogger · 30/10/2022 12:58

Also agree with pp - I wouldn't even take the baby to her house while the dogs are there. It only takes half a second and things could go horribly badly!

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/10/2022 12:59

I wouldn’t even visit with aggressive dogs/ certain dog breeds in a house.

CJat10 · 30/10/2022 13:00

I love dogs and my DC grew up with dogs in their beds, sitting in dogs beds as toddlers... generally very relaxed behaviour around them. But... I would not let my DC go to this house at all. There is a trend of big powerful breeds being bred and sadly the statistics do not support the defense that they are all harmless. Many dog owners are overwhelmed but can't backtrack on their choices and love their dogs so they are blinded to the real risk. Any poor training or behavioural concerns should mean dogs and children are never in the same room

MNchickens · 30/10/2022 13:01

YANBU due to the dogs

but tbh based on your post even if she didn’t have dogs you’d still be ott about this, so YABU on that front

Ifulikepinacoladas · 30/10/2022 13:02

Bloody hell, a million times no.
Wouldn't be visiting either. She's insane to think you'd leave your child there!

JudgeJ · 30/10/2022 13:02

there’s nowhere better and safer than to be at home with mum/dad.

Irresepctive of the rest of your post, I feel that this comment is not always true, our grandchild at about 1 slept fat better at our house than at home, no-one understood why, she just did!

modgepodge · 30/10/2022 13:05

Who are the 7% voting YABU?! Yes, send your child off to a house with 2 uncontrollable large dangerous dogs, why on earth wouldn’t you?!?
personally I like the idea of having a night off, would love it if I had someone local to me who’d happily do this. But if you don’t feel comfortable, then it’s not relaxing for you, so pointless. And once the dogs are factored in, only an idiot would be comfortable with this.

transverseworries · 30/10/2022 13:06

You're not unreasonable to want to keep your 1 year old away from the dogs but what's your childcare plan when the new baby arrives?!

CherieBabySpliffUp · 30/10/2022 13:06

Definite no from me and I'd be insisting that the dogs are behind a baby gate when my child and I were there on visits.

GordonShakespearedoesChristmas · 30/10/2022 13:06

Sympathies were all with MIl till I got to the party about the dogs.
No way should baby sleep there!
This from a MIL who regularly give parents a rest with baby overnighters but no dogs here!!

Yesthatismychildsigh · 30/10/2022 13:06

You shouldn’t be taking your child there at all!

Shopaholic123Go · 30/10/2022 13:08

My children would not be in the same room as those dogs ever again, not in MILs house, not on dog walks with her. I wouldn't be around those dogs myself either. They have bitten people, they need to be PTS.

ShadowPuppets · 30/10/2022 13:11

I was going to say you were being a little unreasonable about the sleepovers (there’s nothing wrong in theory with 1yo staying with loving family members and I’d have been lost if my 1yo hadn’t been used to sleeping over elsewhere when her little brother turned up). But you’re not in the slightest unreasonable about the dogs and I agree with PPs, I wouldn’t be taking her there at any point, overnight, accompanied or not.

ABJ100 · 30/10/2022 13:11

No need for the long post, you absolutely have very good reasons not to ever allow your kids sleep over let alone visit without you. Also, you are the mother why are you even doubting what you need to do?? She doesn't get any big say or consideration just because she's a gp?

Cw112 · 30/10/2022 13:13

I do think it would be absolutely fine for a 1 year old to have an overnight a mile away at a grandparents house especially if you are feeling overwhelmed and exhausted, but the dogs would be a massive concern for me too. The fact your mil is making excuses for the dogs rather than accepting that their training is inadequate and they have a bite history and addressing this in the strongest possible terms is actually the main problem here. If she was on top of it and was fully informed and aware of the risks I'd be less concerned. She should be working with a trainer/behaviourist to tackle those issues now because a 3 bite history is quite a lot for any dog never mind a large and powerful one. I think your dh is the best one to step up here and tell his mum that he's not happy for baby being around the dogs especially overnight and while you both love the nursery and how involved she wants to be, he doesn't feel it's safe with the bite history of the dog but you'd be happy for her to take gc out for the day where they are away from the dogs because you do want her to have time to bond with them.

huhwhat · 30/10/2022 13:15

No way would I allow this!!!! I would even be antsy about a small cute cuddly dog around my babies. All it takes is one miss hap, be it baby pulls dogs tail or gets too rough with the dog and the dog retaliates. All to ogre I see TikTok videos of tiny Babies being put to bed with an xl American bully type dog and it's supposed to be cute- my anxiety is through the roof!

Cavviesarethebest · 30/10/2022 13:16

You’re massively negligent letting either of your children go over there at all at any time

(I say that as a massive dog person)

Herejustforthisone · 30/10/2022 13:28

I love dogs, but neither me nor my children would be stepping foot in that house again.

Misty999 · 30/10/2022 13:38

YANBU I wouldn't even let a big dog like that near my babies it's just not worth the risk.

Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 30/10/2022 13:39

Even without ddogs mil doesn't need to have your dc overnight. Unless you want that to happen.

ClaudiusTheGod · 30/10/2022 13:46

No no no.

Keep yourself and both of your children out of that house, day and night.

Look up the case of the woman mauled by her dogs in Liverpool recently. That came not long after a toddler was killed by a dog. There is also an article on BBC news website at the moment about a plastic surgeon who treats people every day for injuries caused by dog attacks.

I really feel for you OP but you have to stand firm on this.

girlmom21 · 30/10/2022 13:46

I agree your children, and you, should steer well clear of their house full stop.

You know the dogs bite. This is a catastrophe waiting to happen.