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AIBU?

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AIBU to not let my baby sleep out

66 replies

97DS · 30/10/2022 12:50

Hi, can I post this anonymously please:

Basically, me and my partner are due to have another baby very soon, and we already have a 1 year old at home. I’m coping well but can occasionally feel overwhelmed especially as we also have dogs and a house to look after.

My MIL has taken it upon herself (without asking us if it’s even ok first) to turn her spare bedroom in a full-blown nursery so the 1 year old can sleep over and we get a ‘night off’ once new baby is here.
I really appreciate the thought, money and effort that’s gone into this, but ultimately I feel it’s a massive waste. She’s so excited about this so we’ve just reached a point where we now ignore it and let her carry on. I’m ok with 1 year old using the nursery to play/nap during days when we pop over to visit, but the thought of overnight makes me very uncomfortable.

Baby has also never slept out before, because I have anxiety and i feel there’s nowhere better and safer than to be at home with mum/dad.

MIL lives about 1 mile down the road from us so if a sleepover was ever on the cards, I’d prefer it to be at my house where the 1 year old is already comfortable, familiar with their surroundings, and with everything 1 year old would need without me having to pack/unpack a bag just to go down the street.

Anyways, back to the issue… my MIL has 2x very large dogs (dog breed known to be aggressive and very powerful). One is a rescue from an abusive background so unpredictable in it’s behaviour , the other they have owned from being a puppy. Both dogs are chaotic.

They are NOT well trained.

They pull, jump up, trash the house, rip up their beds, destroy their toys. The list goes on & on.
All MIL does is complain about how naughty they’re being/what they’ve done recently that’s been naughty. Even my very affectionate/friendly dogs are scared of them.

I have been over to the house with the 1 year old in the past and whilst MIL has been holding 1year old, one dog has jumped up, growled, barked and attempted to bite MIL.

Thankfully I was there to quickly snatch baby away so MIL could lock the dogs somewhere safe. She could see I was obviously shaken up and on edge the rest of the visit.

MIL says it’s because baby isn’t around the dogs enough they’re just not used to it; They’re only being protective. But I don’t see it as protection. It looked like they would attack if given the opportunity.

The dogs have also growled, barked and bitten FIL and BIL, who are around them a lot so I don’t think it’s being protective, just aggressive.

So my question is, AIBU to NOT let my 1 year old sleep out, at a house that has two very large aggressive dogs, where they will literally DESTROY anything they can get hold of???
I don’t feel like the 1 year old sleeping out would be much of a ‘night off’ for me as I would be worried sick all evening. I’ve been told the dogs will not be allowed upstairs, bedroom doors will be closed, and there’s baby gates throughout the house. Personally, I still don’t think this is enough protection because 1 year old won’t be kept upstairs all day and all night. MIL will want to be in the livingroom and kitchen with 1year old whilst they are playing/feeding etc. And i feel it’s then unfair to lock the dogs outside or into cages whilst 1year old is downstairs.

Please share your thoughts. Thank you

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KettrickenSmiled · 30/10/2022 13:53

MIL says it’s because baby isn’t around the dogs enough they’re just not used to it; They’re only being protective. But I don’t see it as protection. It looked like they would attack if given the opportunity.
It doesn't matter what MiL says.
It is not her decision to make.

So my question is, AIBU to NOT let my 1 year old sleep out,
Wrong question.
Your question should be "AIBU to never let my DC enter MiL's house while she owns dogs."
And the answer is YANBU.

MiL is incapable of training her dogs, they have already bitten 2 adults, & your job isn't to discuss it with MiL - your job is to shut this shit down & safeguard your children.
Pay no attention to anything she says about doors & babygates. She is not a competent dog owner. Do not let your children anywhere near those dogs.

SpringRainbow · 30/10/2022 13:56

I love dogs but I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near those dogs let alone want my children to be anywhere near them. They are dangerous because their owners are irresponsible.

Someone is going to be seriously hurt because no one can be bothered to even try and properly train those dogs. It makes me so angry.

Whereland · 30/10/2022 15:29

I was on your side before you even mentioned the dogs. Not in a million years.

tunthebloodyalarmoff · 30/10/2022 15:50

I wouldn't allow because of dogs but without dogs yes

gah2teenagers · 30/10/2022 15:53

What is wrong with you that this is even a question. I despair. No no no no no.

daisy46 · 30/10/2022 16:41

You are being sensible. Don't let her tell you otherwise.

DelphiniumBlue · 30/10/2022 16:51

I wouldn’t let my children visit a house with potentially dangerous dogs in it, let alone sleep there. Not a chance, not under any circumstances.
This is a conversation that should already have been had.
Is there a plan for when you go into labour? If she is your fallback position, then you have to be vet clear that your baby can’t go to her house. And if she won’t agree, then find another plan.

takealettermsjones · 30/10/2022 16:57

Oh, come on. You'd be unreasonable and ridiculous to even consider taking your eyes off your child for even a second in that house.

I'd think long and hard about even letting her babysit on her own in your house tbh, because I've known dog owners like that (aggression apologists, making excuses for the dogs etc) to just bring them round after the homeowner has gone, because they think they're worrying for nothing, etc.

stuntbubbles · 30/10/2022 17:00

The sleepover is a red herring. I wouldn’t even take my baby there for a visit with those dogs.

97DS · 30/10/2022 17:23

The plan for labour is that she will stay at our house (she currently WFH so can be at our house very quickly when needed and I 100% trust her to care for the 1year old just not in the same house as her crazy dogs. She has taken the 1 year old out for the day on many occasions; shopping, play area, farm etc, so I have no issues with her being a supportive grandparent and being here to help us when we need it)
also, I don’t want the hassle of waking the 1year old up in the middle of the night if we have to rush to hospital and then the added stress of packing extra bags, so having MIL at our house seems easier. she will also have to walk/feed our own dogs whilst staying here as we could be in hospital for a day or two.

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NightmareSituation · 30/10/2022 17:27

Are you nuts? You cannot even contemplate leaving any children around animals with that sort of temperament. End of story.

SlashBeef · 30/10/2022 17:35

Never in a million years would my kids be at that house, sleepover or not. It would take seconds for a big aggressive dog to fatally injure your children.

DaenerysTarragon · 30/10/2022 17:41

My children wouldn't be in that house - ever. Fuck sleeping over, they wouldn't even be on the front doorstep. You can keep your eye on things as much as you like - if there's an attack from a large dog that won't save anyone from injury.
What are you thinking of Op?

Sapphire387 · 30/10/2022 17:44

Your child could be killed. You risk this every time you allow those dogs to be anywhere near them.

BeeDavis · 30/10/2022 18:02

Let’s be honest, even if your MIL didn’t have dogs, you’d find other excuses not to let her have the child. I really don’t understand why people want to shield their child from absolutely everything! My little boy is 1 and since June has had 3 little trips away with my parents to their caravan, he absolutely loves it. And so do they. I wouldn’t dream of depriving them of precious time with him.

stuntbubbles · 30/10/2022 18:05

BeeDavis · 30/10/2022 18:02

Let’s be honest, even if your MIL didn’t have dogs, you’d find other excuses not to let her have the child. I really don’t understand why people want to shield their child from absolutely everything! My little boy is 1 and since June has had 3 little trips away with my parents to their caravan, he absolutely loves it. And so do they. I wouldn’t dream of depriving them of precious time with him.

Vicious dogs aren’t “an excuse” and you don’t understand why people would want to shield their child from an animal that could kill or maim them? “Aw, Rover ripped baby’s face off today but it’s all learning for them isn’t it? Bless.” Mental.

GrazingSheep · 30/10/2022 18:34

Assume they are XL bullies?

Maray1967 · 30/10/2022 18:44

Never take your DC there again. NEVER.

FourChimneys · 30/10/2022 18:45

Your child could end up like the one I knew, face ripped off by a family pet. Horrific injuries needing several operations over a few years.

Or they could be killed.

BigWillyStyleandPrincessKate · 30/10/2022 18:48

I've said yabu because you should not be going there EVER. Why are you ok with the baby sleeping there in the day? She's a mile away, she can visit you without Cujo

BigWillyStyleandPrincessKate · 30/10/2022 18:49

BeeDavis · 30/10/2022 18:02

Let’s be honest, even if your MIL didn’t have dogs, you’d find other excuses not to let her have the child. I really don’t understand why people want to shield their child from absolutely everything! My little boy is 1 and since June has had 3 little trips away with my parents to their caravan, he absolutely loves it. And so do they. I wouldn’t dream of depriving them of precious time with him.

This isn't the parenting win you think it is

girlmom21 · 30/10/2022 18:53

BeeDavis · 30/10/2022 18:02

Let’s be honest, even if your MIL didn’t have dogs, you’d find other excuses not to let her have the child. I really don’t understand why people want to shield their child from absolutely everything! My little boy is 1 and since June has had 3 little trips away with my parents to their caravan, he absolutely loves it. And so do they. I wouldn’t dream of depriving them of precious time with him.

How many times has he stopped with your in laws?

97DS · 30/10/2022 19:01

Because during the daytime I will be there to keep an eye on things myself. And i mean it more for when we go over eg. Sunday dinner, when the lunch timing will overlap with nap schedule

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97DS · 30/10/2022 19:02

1 year old spends a lot of time with MIL outside of the house. They go shopping, to the park, to the farm, on the train together. They have a great bond and I trust MIL to care for 1 year old providing it’s not within the dog-crazed household

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BigWillyStyleandPrincessKate · 30/10/2022 19:03

Are you stronger and faster than the dog? It doesn't really matter if you're there otherwise