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Woman can't get breast reduction but people can get gender surgery wtaf?

66 replies

Mothergoosesbiggestfan · 29/10/2022 09:15

www.thesun.co.uk/health/20246040/strangers-stare-at-my-enormous-boobs/

Seriously what is wrong with the priorities of our country? Poor woman!

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Mothergoosesbiggestfan · 29/10/2022 22:16

Thought this would have got a few more votes than just 4 😂

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PinkiOcelot · 29/10/2022 22:17

Totally agree. There’s something written somewhere.

PinkiOcelot · 29/10/2022 22:18

Something wrong!

Covetthee · 29/10/2022 22:27

I have been on the waiting list for reduction for 5 years!!! i got told to wait till after kids. Had my kids and still waiting.

i am 5’2 size 10 everywhere but my boobs 34jj.. i have constant back aches and headaches, i have a visible hump appearing cause of the weight but apparently i’m still not a priority but a man wanting boobs!? Yeh skip straight ahead

SpookyPanda · 29/10/2022 22:29

I imagine the nice guidelines are different?

But still, poor woman says she meets 5 of the criteria but she's still been refused!

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 29/10/2022 22:31

Yep or what about women with pcos who grow beards? Can't get any help... but if you're a woman and you want to turn into Amman....all help to you!
Nothing for those forced too.

RobertaFirmino · 29/10/2022 22:32

Is there a non-s*n link please?

TheArtfulStodger · 29/10/2022 22:33

That's The Sun, take it with a pinch or hundred of salt.

Specially as the wait for GRS is years and years and currently getting vaginoplasty or phalloplasty is an even longer wait. I don't know the wait times for implants.

However it's bloody wrong wrong wrong that so many people are denied reductions, and ditto for having excess skin removal for those who have lost shedloads of weight. That one isn't available on the NHS at all.

Rowthe · 29/10/2022 22:34

It's not accurate

Currently no one can get surgery for anything.

AuntieDickhead · 29/10/2022 22:36

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 29/10/2022 22:31

Yep or what about women with pcos who grow beards? Can't get any help... but if you're a woman and you want to turn into Amman....all help to you!
Nothing for those forced too.

Agree with this. And transwomen can get laser treatment for beard removal on the NHS because they find their beards 'distressing'

Oddly enough so do I! Being female and all that!

Lockheart · 29/10/2022 22:44

The NHS offering gender reassignment surgery (in whatever form) is not the reason why this woman can't get a breast reduction.

The NHS being totally underfunded, mismanaged, and broken is the reason why.

There's no need to make this into an attack on trans-identifying people.

FatAnneTheDealer · 29/10/2022 22:47

Agree with @Lockheart .

Unseelie · 29/10/2022 22:51

I have ovarian damage that makes me produce low progesterone and thus a lot of male pattern facial hair. I have to pay to have this removed: NHS does not give a shit.

If I was a man who wanted a natural healthy beard removed because I’d decided I felt I was a woman, the NHS would pay for 8 sessions of electrolysis (that costs me about £800).

The NHS has always put men’s wants above women’s needs and it seems it always will. 🤬

KitchiHuritAngeni · 29/10/2022 22:56

You know trans folk also have to wait years for any kind of surgery too?

They don't just walk in and get an appointment in a week.

Current waiting times for clinics to even be seen is around 2 years.

Why not mention the people who don't show up to appointments? They probably waste millions per year.

What about other 'cosmetic' procedures that aren't life saving? That probably costs a fair amount too.

What about people who get injuries through doing extreme sports? Or smokers? Or heavy drinkers? Probably cost millions if not billions, and easily prevented.

Nope it's always the fault of trans folk on MN. It's tiresome.

Dogtooth · 29/10/2022 22:57

Do you think if they cancelled trans ops tomorrow then there would be more availability for breast reduction? It doesn't work like that.

You can be mad at diminution of women's health issues, lack of health funding, deliberate undermining if NHS by Tories but it's not actually trans people's fault, is it? And as pp have said, trans surgery is not easy to come by either.

Millsbills · 29/10/2022 22:57

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Covetthee · 29/10/2022 22:27

I have been on the waiting list for reduction for 5 years!!! i got told to wait till after kids. Had my kids and still waiting.

i am 5’2 size 10 everywhere but my boobs 34jj.. i have constant back aches and headaches, i have a visible hump appearing cause of the weight but apparently i’m still not a priority but a man wanting boobs!? Yeh skip straight ahead

Skip straight ahead?

the average wait time for GRS is 7 years on the NHS. you have to have therapy, live for a long time as the opposite sex too.

VladmirsPoutine · 29/10/2022 23:00

Trans surgeries aren't receiving some sort of fast access pass to the detriment of breast reduction surgery or any other surgery for that matter. Conflating the two serves only one very tedious purpose and you've bought into it.

Winterscomingagain · 29/10/2022 23:04

That poor woman, I didn't really expect her to be so much in need of surgery. Every day life must be very difficult.

Ofcourseshecan · 29/10/2022 23:06

Unseelie · 29/10/2022 22:51

I have ovarian damage that makes me produce low progesterone and thus a lot of male pattern facial hair. I have to pay to have this removed: NHS does not give a shit.

If I was a man who wanted a natural healthy beard removed because I’d decided I felt I was a woman, the NHS would pay for 8 sessions of electrolysis (that costs me about £800).

The NHS has always put men’s wants above women’s needs and it seems it always will. 🤬

I sympathise with you, Unseelie. TheNHS should treat a disfiguring health condition. It should not be doing unnecessary cosmetic surgery to collude with people’s fantasies.

Kazoola · 29/10/2022 23:08

Of course the trans surgeries will impact on women's surgeries. There are only so many surgeons. It's ridiculous that the NHS are adding boobs to any males.

Millsbills · 29/10/2022 23:10

Kazoola · 29/10/2022 23:08

Of course the trans surgeries will impact on women's surgeries. There are only so many surgeons. It's ridiculous that the NHS are adding boobs to any males.

You’re aware surgeons have different specialities right?

a GRS surgeon won’t be the same as the ones performing breast reduction.

VladmirsPoutine · 29/10/2022 23:14

Kazoola · 29/10/2022 23:08

Of course the trans surgeries will impact on women's surgeries. There are only so many surgeons. It's ridiculous that the NHS are adding boobs to any males.

Yes, all the surgeons who do all the surgeries. When my partner needed a kidney removed they got an orthopaedic surgeon which is now why he urinates from his toe nails.

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 29/10/2022 23:17

@Lockheart

But why on earth has it been prioritised that trans women find beard distressingly and get it removed but pcos woman can't.

Pcos has been very long term issue and no help at all..

Lockheart · 29/10/2022 23:20

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 29/10/2022 23:17

@Lockheart

But why on earth has it been prioritised that trans women find beard distressingly and get it removed but pcos woman can't.

Pcos has been very long term issue and no help at all..

Has it been prioritised though? Can you support that claim (with actual information and policy, not anecdotes)?