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Was I too quick to move him school

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Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 07:25

Our oldest ds is 6 and until recently had settled well into school life and loved school

We had two choices when it came to which school he should go to when he started and we picked the one which was joined to his nursery despite us actually feeling the other school was better ( better catchment area etc) but he can take a while to settle so we felt nursery move to school best for him

For the first year all went well for the most part and he loved it and grew in confidence

However after summer we had a incident in which he fell in the playground and came home with a large bump on his head his nose burst open knees and hands cut and with gravel ingrained to them
My DH took him straight back to his teacher and asked what happened to be told oh he fell
We know the policy in the area is any bump or injury to the face we should of been called so I was unhappy we didn't get a call and he was left in that state in school
I phoned and spoke to the head who instead of asking if DS was ok got very defensive and said no way would her staff not have followed guidelines and she would need to get the adult side of the story

Asked me if I was sure he was hurt in school or if he was exaggerating his injuries
I was shocked by her attitude and explained his injuries where quite visible for all to see
I did also suggest if this was her poor attitude I'd complain further which looking back was probably nail In the coffin

She did phone back a day later and apologised and blamed it on a new staff member but it was clear even when she apologized the attitude from herself to me wasn't pleasent

We considered moving him at this point but he was so happy we left

Weeks later he was asked to present an award at assembly which was great as he is shy so we where very happy he wanted to do this
But after this things changed he became withdrawn and started having nightmares
Didn't want to go to the school disco etc
He eventually told us 4 boys in the year above where calling him posh / posho , a little idiot and other names plus chasing him daily , pushing into him. Before we got the chance to speak to the head my ds decided to stick up for himself and punched one of the boys ( he does do martial arts so was quite vocal that it was a defense move ) at this point we went to speak to the head

She dismissed the bullying and said the boys simply liked our Ds and where following him/ chasing him to play with him and bullying wasn't a problem in her school
When I mentioned the name calling and she said calling him posho was playground banter and what did he expect

When we said this wasn't a good enough response she told us if we weren't happy with the school we should leave

The whole meeting was just shocking and I left in tears, DH was furious and wanted to move him asap
So we contacted the other school and went to see it etc and I agreed to moving him
And yes the other school is better , the catchment is better , the class sizes etc all better
But I now have a little boy who is heartbroken despite the bullying he loved his class and was popular in his year and he tells me daily he misses his friends and asks to go back to his old school

The kids at his new school seem keen to include him but he doesn't seem to want to engage much and tells us he doesn't play with anyone at break

It has only been a couple of weeks but I feel terrible
Did I react to quick by moving him ? I just didn't see how we can could keep him at his old school when the heads attitude was so poor but obviously he doesn't understand that

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JimTheShit · 28/10/2022 09:53

I’d have done the same OO. In fact I’d have sent him to the nice one from the getgo. He’ll settle in and be fine. Kids are resilient. That other head mistress on the other hand!

JimTheShit · 28/10/2022 09:53

OP!

Allsnotwell · 28/10/2022 09:55

Moving forward I would suggest you speak to his new class teacher and explain your fears.
Then I would change the narrative at home - be positive about school, don’t drill him for information - this is huge because you are now in the look out for any issues and he gets attention for telling you things if you see what I mean?
then you need to help him build friendships - play dates maybe new groups outside school.

Keep looking forward!

Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 09:58

@BaconMassive firstly if it was just a case of bit of picking on him in the playground my general view would of being get on with it ignore it

But when he's pushed down the stairs and being grabbed at the neck then that needs addressed and when he then feels he has to engage in fighting to solve it I think adults need to be involved

I didn't want to move him over it, it was the heads attitude and absolute refusal to even look into it that made us move
If she would of just had a word or something we would not have left

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Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 10:01

@Allsnotwell I think we have being making to a big a deal of the move at home and yes drilling him to much so defo going to play it down now

He has a after school activity tonight which some of the boys from his new school will also be at so and going to arrange some play dates too so fingers crossed this all helps

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oakleaffy · 28/10/2022 10:10

WhatNoRaisins · 28/10/2022 07:34

If the head claims that "bullying isn't a problem in their school" that alone is a massive red flag.

This.
ALL schools that have children in them will have incidences of bullying.
It's what children tend to do, unfortunately.
One person's ''Banter'' is another person's bullying.

Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 10:24

@Kindofcrunchy in our area you can also do a placing request so if your out of the catchment area you can still request the school and if they are not over subscribed you may get a place. Does you area offer anything like that ?

In saying that my friend was out of catchment for the schools she wanted and sent her DC to one with not the best rating but it turns out the school is very progressive about improving and she's had a really good experience

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Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 10:25

@JimTheShit hindsight we defiantly should of sent him there from the get go

There is such a difference and parents at new school have been so welcoming too asking how is he getting on etc

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BaconMassive · 28/10/2022 10:35

There's such a grey area for bullying, one child saying they called me posh, one child saying he did karate on me. The school should sort it out best they can but it often ends up as a bit of "he said, she said" that just goes round in circles.

Anyway, no point looking back. Onwards with the new school!

Hankunamatata · 28/10/2022 10:56

I don't think you would have ever been happy with the school if you had left him there. You would have been looking for issues and overreacting to any perceived problems as you would have been on hyper alert.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 28/10/2022 11:04

He will settle in the new school, and he will be fine.

You however need to think about the way you react to incidents at school (of which there will be many). It is really important to stay calm and think what is best for your son, rather than throwing a tantrum because you feel the school are not being apologetic enough. It may still have come down to moving school, but this way you created a situation where you didn't really have a choice.

Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 11:08

@TheYearOfSmallThings so you go to speak to school about bullying and ask if it could be looked into

The head says no bullying takes place in her school it's a happy school if we don't like it we can leave

How would you handle this ? How would you handle your child coming home with a large bump to the head and face burst open ? No reaction ?

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Wintermoonandstars · 28/10/2022 11:50

To be honest I do think it sounds like you were a little overly confrontational with the school.

From their point of view, there is a child who had attended the school for a year, no issues or complaints and then his dad turns up with the child demanding answers regarding a playground fall and then mum rings up complaining and threatening. Their child then uses martial arts against another child.

It is done now but I do think trying to keep things calm and ‘could you let me know what happened’ get better results then all guns blazing.

Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 12:13

@Wintermoonandstars I didn't complain or threaten I asked what had happened and why we didn't get notified when she suggested that would never happen in her school and was I sure he got hurt at school then yes I was annoyed by her attitude as it showed a complete disregard for the welfare of a small child and is major safeguarding issue to have a child with a head bump not even checked over

And accidents happen and oversights happen but I wouldn't of expected her to be so defensive and suggest he didn't get hurt at her school

She also said it wasn't policy to contact

My child punched the other child as the other child had him by the neck, tbh if someone grabbed me by the neck I would think I would also have a knee jerk reaction

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Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 12:15

@Wintermoonandstars I didn't complain or threaten I asked what had happened and why we didn't get notified when she suggested that would never happen in her school and was I sure he got hurt at school then yes I was annoyed by her attitude as it showed a complete disregard for the welfare of a small child and is major safeguarding issue to have a child with a head bump not even checked over

And accidents happen and oversights happen but I wouldn't of expected her to be so defensive and suggest he didn't get hurt at her school

She also said it wasn't policy to contact

My child punched the other child as the other child had him by the neck, tbh if someone grabbed me by the neck I would think I would also have a knee jerk reaction

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Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 12:15

@Wintermoonandstars I didn't complain or threaten I asked what had happened and why we didn't get notified when she suggested that would never happen in her school and was I sure he got hurt at school then yes I was annoyed by her attitude as it showed a complete disregard for the welfare of a small child and is major safeguarding issue to have a child with a head bump not even checked over

And accidents happen and oversights happen but I wouldn't of expected her to be so defensive and suggest he didn't get hurt at her school

She also said it wasn't policy to contact

My child punched the other child as the other child had him by the neck, tbh if someone grabbed me by the neck I would think I would also have a knee jerk reaction

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Wintermoonandstars · 28/10/2022 12:23

i get that, but the problem is you went in to talk about the bullying after your DS had punched the other child.

healthadvice123 · 28/10/2022 15:17

Im aways shocked when any school says they have no bullying , little kids sometime bully without really knowing what is it, and no way teachers know all about what is going on.
How a school adresses it when it comes up and it will even in the best schools is whats important and the fact they dismissed it all isn't great
Long term you have done the right thing it may just take time for him to settle

BaconMassive · 28/10/2022 15:17

www.gov.uk/guidance/report-a-serious-child-safeguarding-incident

Here's a link to report the major safeguarding incident so that a bump in the playground may never befell another child at that school again.

healthadvice123 · 28/10/2022 15:22

Very concerning that a child with a head injury parents were not called too seek medical advice too
Mine are older yet we were always told about head injuries evern minor ones we were advised and when my ds cut his head they called me to come and collect and take him to hospital to be checked out
So yes an error but they should of been bending over backwards
My ds school even followed up with a phone call to check he was ok

healthadvice123 · 28/10/2022 15:28

Tbf i always told mine if they were being bulied etc always try and walk away and tell the teacher / adult if nothings done then hit back , rightly or wrongly

1AngelicFruitCake · 28/10/2022 15:29

cansu · 28/10/2022 07:39

It can work out like that. The head doesn't sound great but maybe you didn't deal well with some of these issues. It is hard to say. Yes they should have told you he fell. However they perhaps cleaned him up and dried his tears and the call was missed. He told your dh he had fell in the playground so you did know. I am not sure I would have gone to complain to the head. I perhaps would have just asked in the office. You could have just said please could you call me next time. Job done.

He punched another child in the playground. He would have been in trouble. He needed to tell an adult if he was being annoyed or chased. There are other options. You went straight for playing down his actions to complaining about the bullying. Anyway he will probably settle at the new school. Give it time.

I agree with the above.

You sounded like you were making an excuse about him a behaviour even though he retaliated you could have spoken to the school before he felt like he had to defend himself.

In this new school try and stay calm when dealing with incidents, I know it’s hard. I know someone on school number 3 and she’ll tell everyone how awful the schools all were when the common denominator is her!

Franca123 · 28/10/2022 15:36

You're the adult and you know best not him. You did the right thing. It's not even red flags it's red sails or tents or something!

Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 17:22

@1AngelicFruitCake

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Rooree2609 · 28/10/2022 17:27

@healthadvice123 we have always told him to tell or walk away and ignore too and he's never been in trouble for hitting before

He genuinely is a well behaved little boy, he said his instructor at his class told him he's allowed to stick up for himself so I think he took it quite literally and he did

Would of been ideal if we had got the chance to speak to the school before that but obviously it didn't work out like that

Also yes I would of expected concern over his head even when I told her we had to take him to have it checked she had no concern at all

I think writing this thread has made me feel we have did the right thing in moving him

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