To think people should move to the left lane when not overtaking on the motorway?

[AnotherMalbecPlease]

I’ve been doing a lot of motorway driving recently and have noticed that so many drivers to not move over when they can. On a 4 lane stretch of the M25 today, there was a driver doing 50 in the third lane - massive gap in the second lane - it caused chaos - why not just move over?

They do if you have adaptive cruise control, the car adapts its speed to the car infront. You set the maximum speed you want to travel at and the car automatically ensures you keep the correct distance and slows and speeds up according to the traffic.

Genuine question... what is wrong with undertaking? Why does it go against the highway code?

Also, if the speed limit is 70mph. Surely I can stay (at 70/75 mph) in the right hand lane and not have to worry about people driving up my ass?

YANBU.

But people have cropped up on these threads before saying that lane 1 (on the left) is for lorries and lane 3 or whichever lane is furthest right is purely for speed demons. Therefore, the middle lane is reserved for the normal, sensible drivers. Or the delicate little flowers who find overtaking difficult, so just pootle along on the middle lane instead.

Meh. I drive in the middle lane a lot. I was on the M6 recently and the inside lane was down at 40-50 due to all the lorries. I think it would be more of a hazard to keep weaving in and out than it is to maintain a steady speed where people can still overtake you if needed. I know people will be enraged about this but a lot of people do it.

Lorries not indicating or just suddenly moving at the last minute is really scary. I don't stay in the middle lane because I'm a new driver and usually feel safer on the left and would prefer to go slow than feel pressured. But sometimes that does involve moving out overtake lorries and I swear they don't all check before they decide to move out.

People seem to go way above 70 in the right lane.

I do quite a lot of motorway driving and over the last few months I've noticed a surprising number of vehicles sitting in the outside lane (generally where I'm on a 3 lane motorway, they are sitting in lane 3). They pull into lane 2 to let a faster car overtake and then move back into lane 3!!

All cars have had British plates so not people from countries who drive on the right and are confused on the motorway about which lane to stay in, although could be hire cars, but whoever the driver is surely you look at those around you and think "no one else is doing what I'm doing which suggests I'm doing it wrong". Completely baffles me.

One of the issues, especially on the M25, is navigation, the M60 is a similar, circular road with numerous junctions. People just clog the middle lanes to avoid being in the incorrect lane. I noticed the straighter M62 is significantly quicker than the M25 during normal hrs. Both are down to a snail's pace during rush hr.

To be fair, people should be looking to their left before moving back in. I wouldn't move left into a lane after overtaking unless I'd checked it was safe.

I think it's a really good indication to people what a safe distance apart is regardless of what their car tells them. The driver is the one with the actual brain and responsibility, not the car (or the satnav-there's people that follow those so religiously they end up driving through a ford or whatever.

But... it's not about being enraged? It's that you're (possibly) breaking the rules of the road!

Overtaking lorries doing 40-50, even if there's a lot and you're doing so for a while - fine, as long as you're clearly making progress and there's nowhere for you to move back in.

Continuing to stay in that lane when there's room to move back over because you personally believe it's easier and people 'can still overtake' - not fine. How hard is that to understand?

@mummybearcub2022 please tell me you dont actually drive?

It's not about "what you think". People with more experience than you developed the Highway Code and you should be following it. You don't know best, and selfishly cause problems for all others behind you.

Yes. You should move over to the left, that's very basic highway code stuff. Not even that new. You should definitely not undertake (special level of road wanker probably driving someone else's car probably thinks because they drive for work they've got sharper reflexes -yawn-)

Yes a lot do but they shouldn’t - safely overtaking and then returning to the left lane isn’t weaving in and out - it’s the correct way to do it

Yes, you should move in to the left lane to allow faster traffic to pass. Which I do but I do like to leave a decent gap, especially when pulling in front of a lorry as they have much longer stopping distance than a car. I like to be able to see the number plate in my rear view mirror at least, front tyres ideally.

But what pisses me off are the bastards who, as soon as my rear tyres are barely level with the front tyres of the over vehicle, decide to tailgate 2 inches off my rear, as they have decided I need to pull over. I would be doing the max speed limit.

Another point is, not to weave in and out from right to left every 10 secs, every maneuver adds to the likely hood of an accident. It's perfectly fine to stay overtaking slower-moving traffic, then move over once there is a gap.
What it is not fine to do is drive slower than the lane on the inside, nor is it fine to not match your speed to match the lane you're moving into.

Also, leave the policing of the roads to the police.

If I had a choice I'd rather come up against a middle lane higher than someone undertaking and flashing their lights at the middle lane hoggers. That's stressed aggressive driving and more likely to cause an accident than simply pulling out and overtaking the MLH.

After reading this thread id hazard a guess there are a few people on here who feel its fine to travel at 85+ and expect every one to get out of their way, that includes tailgating the car in front and gets riled up because they did not squeeze back into a gap on the left even though is would leave a completely unsafe stopping distance for either them and the car in front of them or the lorry to keep an adequate stopping distance.

Often when entering the middle/outside lane you are avoiding lorry's and wagons jostling for position and pulling out with out warning, or there is not an adequate gap with safe stopping distances on the left for a few minutes. So the safe option is to stay there until you find an adequate space, now if that pisses off the 85+ brigade tough.

Totally agree, it's so annoying

So the safe option is to stay there until you find an adequate space, now if that pisses off the 85+ brigade tough.

Why do you think your bad driving will force the "85+ brigade" to drive any better? The end result is that instead of one bad driver on the road, there are now 2.

My bad driving, go on explain why I have bad driving if in driving with due care and attention to the rules of the road?

Will all this apoplectic rage it can't be safe to drive

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