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To think working class shows?

795 replies

MrsBonnie · 23/10/2022 21:00

I work in a lovely school where they’ve all had very different upbringings to me. Very much working class here. Sometimes I think it shows with little things I’ve noticed.

Having sugar in tea, using a tumble drier, not having a cleaner, using the wrong glasses for different drinks (I.E using the same one for everything!)… what else am I missing that excludes me from the club 😂 sometimes I will mention something like the above and get “oh I never use a tumble drier” … then I just think oops have I said something weird there?

Sometimes I think they’re judging me with things I say and do but I hope not! I grew up being homeless at a certain point, council houses, single teen (but amazing) mum, a very specific type of circle. I feel like Mum did everything she could to get us out of that way of life, but I can’t help but feel I don’t belong sometimes. Or that I stick out like a sore thumb. Am I being daft? Imposter syndrome a little bit!

OP posts:
IpsoFactor30 · 24/10/2022 06:57

I am WC and mix with a lot of MC people because of where I work and live. I really don't know why WC people are so hung up about them? Most of them are MC because their parents or GP had some money and are riding on their coattails. They aren't anything special. In fact, I feel sorry for some of them because they lack resilience and spend all their time maintaining face.

babyyodaxmas · 24/10/2022 07:00

DrivingDown · 24/10/2022 06:41

Middle class people still have towels and bed linen?! Where on earth would you dry a houseful of king size duvet covers every week if not in the dryer?!

We are as middle class as they come (both University educated professionals, DC in grammar school, 3 foreign holidays a year and both my parents have tertiary education). Sheets are always, always, always lined dried (we have a king size). Otherwise hung over the banisters in our high celinged well ventilated and heated Victorian villa. Tumble drying is for school uniform emergencies and towels only [gravel]

Getoff · 24/10/2022 07:02

PinkyandtheBrainBrainBrainBrainBrain · 24/10/2022 01:23

…I don’t…

…how do you dry your clothes in the winter without a tumble dryer?! Mine stink if I hang them up for days.

I no longer use my dryer, the clothes are less crumpled and smell nicer if I leave them on a clothes airer. (The dryer actually gives them a strange smell.) They dry in 24 hours, so there is no need to leave them for days.

I do have the heating on during winter, and I also take steps to keep humidity down in the flat, so maybe that's why mine dry quicker.

speakout · 24/10/2022 07:03

No tumble drier here either.
I have the money to buy one, and the space to put it, I live in a large house.
I have owned one in the past, but it is a choice not to have one. I dry clothes outside in the sunshine and winter breeze. ( I live in Scotland)
Reasons-

  1. Tumble driers guzzle electricity - global warming.
  2. Tumble driers are costly to run.
  3. . Tumble driers damage clothes, the friction tears fibres, damages zips and buttons, causes pilling. Clothes wear out faster.
  4. Clothes dried in a tumble drier smell bad, always a lingering industrial heated plastic/grease smell.
  5. I love the scent of outdoor dried clothes.
  6. Drying outside is free.
  7. Clothes dry outside all year long- even with snow or ice on the ground will dry to at least 80% if there is wind or sun.

I dry and air off line dried clothes on racks.
I really wouldn't want a tumble drier.

user1498572889 · 24/10/2022 07:03

I’ve got 2 tumble dryers. Does that mean I’m upper middle class 😂😂

TheNefariousOrange · 24/10/2022 07:04

I am a teacher and can quite confidently say that I have never, in my 10 year career, had a conversation with my students about types of glasses they use at home and how they (their parents) do laundry 🤨

Alondra · 24/10/2022 07:04

MrsBonnie · 23/10/2022 21:00

I work in a lovely school where they’ve all had very different upbringings to me. Very much working class here. Sometimes I think it shows with little things I’ve noticed.

Having sugar in tea, using a tumble drier, not having a cleaner, using the wrong glasses for different drinks (I.E using the same one for everything!)… what else am I missing that excludes me from the club 😂 sometimes I will mention something like the above and get “oh I never use a tumble drier” … then I just think oops have I said something weird there?

Sometimes I think they’re judging me with things I say and do but I hope not! I grew up being homeless at a certain point, council houses, single teen (but amazing) mum, a very specific type of circle. I feel like Mum did everything she could to get us out of that way of life, but I can’t help but feel I don’t belong sometimes. Or that I stick out like a sore thumb. Am I being daft? Imposter syndrome a little bit!

I think you are placing too much emphasis on how you are being perceived instead of enjoying who you are.

I'm working class, enjoy the opportunity money can give us, but I don't see myself, or my family as anything except people enjoying a comfortable life because we've been lucky how things have worked for us.

If you think having sugar in your tea, having a particular set of glass or a tumbled drier is what makes you working class, you are wrong.

Be proud of who you are, don't hide it. Confidence, being honest and taking pride in your own self is what matters and even more important, how other people will perceive you.

Don't ever feel less than anyone else because of your background, status or money.

Lozzybear · 24/10/2022 07:05

@EmeraldShamrock1 well I can confidently say that all my neighbours have the same tumble dryer as the builders put them in when they built the houses!

bozzabollix · 24/10/2022 07:06

This peculiar obsession with class really only exists here, probably because us Brits are batshit crazy.

Why give a shit? I have a friend who has certain things she will put out in her house depending on how posh the visitor is. I get to see the Frosties as she knows I really do not care.

Also you have to iron loads without a tumble dryer, sod that.

speakout · 24/10/2022 07:07

bozzabollix I own neither a tumble drier or an iron.

Plantstrees · 24/10/2022 07:10

We are a very upper MC family. No tumble driers in my family because most of the clothes we wear are made of natural fabrics (silks and wools) that would get ruined by them. Drying outdoors makes clothes smell great and reduces ironing. Then on wet days everything goes on the AGA overnight or on a hanging rack so no need anyway.

Alondra · 24/10/2022 07:12

I've never owned a tumbled drier because I don't like them, and the last time I used my iron was last year. Hopefully it still works if I have to use it again.

speakout · 24/10/2022 07:13

bozzabollix Many countries have class systems, not just the UK.

Many European countries have class systems, most of Asia, Scandinavia, Australia ( despite their claims otherwise).
Visit India or Malaysia if you think Britain is a class society.

Kissingfrogs25 · 24/10/2022 07:16

Hanging clothes all over the house doesn't sound terribly ideal. Nor the idea you can dry sheets or anything over the winter in this country!

We have a very large laundry room and everything is managed by someone else. So I am not sure how every last thing is dried or not dried, what class does that make me?

RedDwarfGarbagePod · 24/10/2022 07:17

We're those people who have a tumble dryer but only use it and couple of times a year. It lives in a sentry shed outside the back door and only gets used during the awkward transitional/rainy bits between good weather and central heating seasons. I'm not paying extra money to dry washing when either the sun and wind can do it for free for the heating can do it for no added cost.

Alondra · 24/10/2022 07:20

speakout · 24/10/2022 07:13

bozzabollix Many countries have class systems, not just the UK.

Many European countries have class systems, most of Asia, Scandinavia, Australia ( despite their claims otherwise).
Visit India or Malaysia if you think Britain is a class society.

What on earth does your post have to do with the OP? We are not talking about the UK, EU or the rest of the world-class systems issues. The discussion is how the OP thinks being working class shows.

Take your political nationalistic crap somewhere else.

babyyodaxmas · 24/10/2022 07:20

TBH pinning out freshly laundered shirts or sheets on a sunny windy (and then seeing them flapping afterwards) on a sunny/windy day is one of life's great pleasures. Baby clothes are even better but sadly no baby here anymore. Also the sun bleaches the whites.

CornishTiger · 24/10/2022 07:21

I’ve just done two online quizzes to define which social class I am - apparently middle class. I use a tumble dryer, take sugar in tea but Shock horror I do own gin and wine glasses!

The thing is I am me and you are you. You need to worry less what people think of you and learn to be comfortable with yourself.

KnittingAuntie · 24/10/2022 07:23

I'm from a working class background but one of my colleagues labelled me as middle class because it came up in conversation that I use a soup spoon for soup. She said her family had never owned soup spoons and they were 'posh'

I never let on that we also have pastry forks, fish knives and forks, jam spoons & grapefruit spoons . . . before marriage my GM was a housemaid in a very large stately home and had an obsession with cutlery and correctly laid place settings.

When each of her children married they were presented with a very large canteen of cutlery. This looked a bit incongruous in my family home as it was paired with melamine plates which my DM insisted on using as she thought they were more suitable for children!

Lunar270 · 24/10/2022 07:24

user1498572889 · 24/10/2022 07:03

I’ve got 2 tumble dryers. Does that mean I’m upper middle class 😂😂

Going by this thread is say that you were underclass 😂😂

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2022 07:26

No tumble driers in my family because most of the clothes we wear are made of natural fabrics (silks and wools) that would get ruined by them

oh come on, this reads like some wannabe MC fantasy Grin

My silk blouses and wool trousers go to the dry cleaners along with DHs shirts, but gym/hockey/rugby kit, 6x king size bed linen sets a week, towels, assorted underwear and pyjamas, 10+ towels, hoodies etc your homes must look like launderettes!

weirdest flex ever!

gogohmm · 24/10/2022 07:28

Please be assured none of those are a marker of class.

We have a tumble dryer (heat pump thoughGrin), no cleaner, use whatever glasses aren't smashed despite the fact we are very much upper middle class by any definition, dp was educated at a posh boarding school and is very senior. Don't take sugar though

Vampirethriller · 24/10/2022 07:30

My parents are very middle class, but I live in a council flat and dry my sheets by hanging them out the living room window. I think that makes me very common.

Museya15 · 24/10/2022 07:34

Plantstrees · 24/10/2022 07:10

We are a very upper MC family. No tumble driers in my family because most of the clothes we wear are made of natural fabrics (silks and wools) that would get ruined by them. Drying outdoors makes clothes smell great and reduces ironing. Then on wet days everything goes on the AGA overnight or on a hanging rack so no need anyway.

To the upper class, you'd be sniffed out as working class.

Lunar270 · 24/10/2022 07:36

Wow, 10 pages of tumble dryer justification.

I think this is the saddest thing. Some ludicrously insecure MC people trying to make WC people feel inferior, just to pump themselves up.

I can't think of anything more crass but I still haven't read a solid justification for why. Sounds like complete BS to me.