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Young men who get stuck doing nothing...

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Bunny890 · 23/10/2022 12:28

My younger brother is living at home with my parents and I know several other young men who also get 'stuck' at home - endlessly online, alienate friends, not able to even look for employment or engage with healthcare. I realise that there is a mental health element to this, but I can't help but feel frustrated - Mu

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emptythelitterbox · 30/10/2022 15:12

WhatNoRaisins · 29/10/2022 10:04

See if this was something that all young people needed teaching we'd know how to do it, it would be like say potty training, there would be books and blogs for those who didn't know. You know very clearly that a person doesn't have that skill.

With social skills many do just seem to naturally pick them up even if their circumstances aren't the best. I suspect a lot of people assume everyone is like this and until you've got a teenager or an adult in a bad way socially on your hands you won't realise that they needed this approach.

@TheGander I suspect some of us do much better with a bit of structure. Never been part of an expat community but I can imagine it could act as a bit of a social base.

Agree. I think many people aren't really sure how they did it or believe either you have it or you don't with social skills. A fixed mindset so to speak. Some probably aren't sure what to do or have accepted their child being like that as it's easier than changing.

Thankfully there are plenty of books and blogs about this for all ages. Ideally, the socialisation and friend making starts at a very young age.

It's like when people get a dog. They have to be trained and socialised or they can have bad habits and be aggressive. People have to be trained to do things too.

Children most likely feel bad when they can't make a friend. It's our job to help them the best we can. Not by sheltering them or giving up.

If your child is struggling to be independent and socialise, help them. Get some books, read some blogs and try out a few small things at a time. If it gets too much, seek some counseling for them.

Nettie1964 · 30/10/2022 15:37

I agree only if you have done everything to secure help for the mental illness. I have worked with homeless people who's stories are devastating abuse neglect total evil. You are not helping your "child "f you continue to indulge them and reward bad behaviour. There are very few people who don't suffer from depression at some point in their lives. Get a grip, who is going to look after your child when you can't? While indulging your parental love when you can't or die no one else will unless you have trained your other children to mimic your behaviour.

TheGander · 31/10/2022 11:08

@Nettie1964 had any of the people you worked with lived with their parents in a state of overgrown dependency, then become homeless after the parent’s death?

TomPinch · 31/10/2022 18:31

Years ago in London I knew someone who never left home. When his mother died he left (I assume not by choice). He drifted to London and slept on the streets for some years. Eventually some secure housing was found for him, and by the time I knew him he was doing OK. That was back in the 90s. I wonder whether someone in his position would be helped now.

I also think he must have been something like what is described in this thread, just from a previous generation.

speakout · 30/12/2022 16:47

Just a heads up- for anyone dealing with an isolated young person- there is a Hikikomori support group on facebook.

www.facebook.com/groups/494478845282406

Babysitter12 · 30/12/2022 23:18

Toxic misandrist feminists, hate men and boys, and guess what happens to kids without fathers with all this poison and hate levelled at them ?
Jail, suicide or withdraw from the hate and negativity in society

speakout · 31/12/2022 07:39

Babysitter12 what???

Orangepolentacake · 31/12/2022 11:33

speakout · 31/12/2022 07:39

Babysitter12 what???

@speakout Fathers for Justice seems to have joined the thread

speakout · 31/12/2022 12:17

Orangepolentacake · 31/12/2022 11:33

@speakout Fathers for Justice seems to have joined the thread

I can see that lol.
I have checked through his previous posts, spreading bile and venom.
Poor thing, he must have a bee in his bonnet.

Naunet · 31/12/2022 13:15

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DanseAvecLesLoups · 31/12/2022 14:04

Babysitter12 · 30/12/2022 23:18

Toxic misandrist feminists, hate men and boys, and guess what happens to kids without fathers with all this poison and hate levelled at them ?
Jail, suicide or withdraw from the hate and negativity in society

So angry, did you not get that batman outfit you so badly wanted for Christmas?

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